John Adams is making me seasick

[Ichingcarpenter]

I remember taking a Polish freighter back in the 70s in wintertime
to Rotterdam where we lost an engine, but this voyage
looks a hell of a lot rougher. We didn't get chased by the English
at the same time.

Great show.

[tekisui]

1. I've heard so much about it, can't wait for the DVD.

[Ichingcarpenter]

2. This portion covers his trip to France and Holland

to drum up financial support, meanwhile they are being attacked
by the British and .......yikes they just cut off an injured man's leg.

[Lex]

5. and little JQA saw it all too

nt

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

3. lol! Me too and to top that off, an amputation

:puke:

[Ichingcarpenter]

4. That portion was true too

Which son is traveling with him? Is that John Quincy?

[Lex]

6. Yes, John Quincy is with him. nt

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

7. Yes, it is. Abigail wanted him to go an have the opportunity to see the world.

I LOVE this so far!

[Ichingcarpenter]

8. You feel that you are looking into a time machine

and witnessing history as it happened. Franklin was
suffering from gout at that time and was quite the
ladies man in Paris from the books that I read.

[Lex]

11. "Oh, to be 70 again!' -- Ben Franklin.

:rofl:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

13. Much of the material in this was taken from letters between John and Abagail

They were prolific letter writers. This production is sumptuous. The PBS Adams Chronicles will forever be left in the dust by this.

[Ichingcarpenter]

15. Oh, I remember that.. Thank goodness they took the time

on this, it is so much better...... I loved John Adams in 'Sideways' which was
filmed in my town.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

17. I think I've loved Giamatti in everything I've seen him in. BTW..that was your town in

wine country? Just beautiful. :)

I live in an area of NY where there was a lot of Revolutionary War activity. The scene with the Dutch had me chuckle. My town was founded by the Dutch. :)

[Ichingcarpenter]

18. I had family that fought at Bunker Hill

one was a Lt. in the Massachusetts' Militia the other on my father's side
who was in a cannon brigade.

Well, now the Revolutionary war is over which lasted less time

THAN THIS FUCKING WAR!!!!!!!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

19. Wow! I haven't known many people whose family went that far back. My great great

grandfather emigrated from Germany and fought in the Civil War...which was over before this (to repeat your words of wisdom) fucking war!

I just saw a thread..over 4000 dead. When will this madness end?

[annabanana]

20. This Mass. Mrs. is just about ready

to start a new Revolution.. A Restoration Revolution!

[Ichingcarpenter]

23. "These are the times that try men's souls."

"These are the times that try men's souls.
The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will,
in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country;
but he that stands now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman.

Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered;
yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict,
the more glorious the triumph."

Thomas Paine.

[burythehatchet]

9. The sets are remarkable

[Ichingcarpenter]

10. Dinner is served .... the makeup is accurate for the aristocracy

and it is even in French......LOL

[Ichingcarpenter]

14. The Hall of mirrors in Versailles was unbelievable

unless you have been there.

[Ichingcarpenter]

12. They took that right from his letters

"I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty
to study mathematics and philosophy.

My sons ought to study mathematics and philosophy,
geography, natural history, naval architecture, navigation,
commerce, and agriculture,

in order to give their children a right to study painting,
poetry, music, architecture, statuary, tapestry, and porcelain."

John Adams

[Ichingcarpenter]

16. Franklin was in the HOT Tub with a young girl

When Adam's burst in for a point of measure on the treaty,
not realizing Franklin's 'position'.

Franklin sent him to Holland........

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

24. lol! Not so young

It was with their older hostess. The one with the dog. :)

[Ichingcarpenter]

21. Good Show.... But how long will it take us to regain our Freedom?

The Revolutionary War will be shorter than the Iraq War, 4000 dead.
Then if we win the election we still have to clean out the Supreme Court
and all the halls of Government from this stench that has infested
our system of government over all these years.

[pepperbear]

22. this was filmed partly in my home town!!!!

williamsburg, va