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Thu Apr-10-08 01:05 PM
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Gates is testifying in Senate hearing now. cspan3 |
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Thu Apr-10-08 01:09 PM
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1. Thank you for the heads up! |
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Sincerely,
A Hearing Junkie
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Thu Apr-10-08 01:13 PM
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3. Warner up. How did Gates do? nt |
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Thu Apr-10-08 01:13 PM
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2. hmm, Levin talking about paying for reconstruction |
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Didn't Bush say this morning we were hardly paying for anything... wonder who to believe.
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Thu Apr-10-08 01:14 PM
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4. Am I watching the right thing? Warner? nt |
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Thu Apr-10-08 01:16 PM
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7. yep, 2nd ranking Repub. for Armed Services (after McCain) |
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Edited on Thu Apr-10-08 01:16 PM by JoeIsOneOfUs
Here's the member list: http://armed-services.senate.gov/members.htmSome day I will learn to keep the two Nelsons straight.
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Thu Apr-10-08 01:22 PM
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I can visually I.D. ONE of the Nelsons - but only since watching him the other day.
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Thu Apr-10-08 01:15 PM
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6. I didn't hear Shrub today, but if we are "hardly" paying for anything, |
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I guess that means he doesn't NEED that additional money he already asked for, huh?
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Thu Apr-10-08 01:16 PM
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8. What on earth could he possibly have meant by such |
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an obviously false statement?
If he thinks he can get people to buy that, that's really frightening -- truly deluded.
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Thu Apr-10-08 01:15 PM
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5. Thanks from another hearing junkie -- |
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Thu Apr-10-08 01:22 PM
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10. Our independent retired general, e.g. Odum and McCaffrey (sp?) |
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say it's over, it's just about how fast and in what pattern we withdraw.
Or that's what I got out of their comments last week.
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Thu Apr-10-08 01:26 PM
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12. That's EXACTLY what they said, |
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and the last sentence or two that Menendez gave on Tuesday said that, too. Those exact words "we had a panel of experts here last week tell us IT'S OVER".
And, as we've discussed, that's definitely the general impression the SFRC gave as a whole.
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Thu Apr-10-08 01:29 PM
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13. Are we missing Panel Two of the SFRC? nt |
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Thu Apr-10-08 01:31 PM
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14. no, I think it's finished. relatively short. |
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Thu Apr-10-08 01:23 PM
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11. Kennedy's there -- good! |
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He's a good guy - he does always show up. He was there to support Dodd in his FISA filibuster.
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Thu Apr-10-08 01:38 PM
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15. Levin is really grilling Gates. n/t |
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Thu Apr-10-08 01:38 PM
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16. yep, and there's that reconstruction $$ question again. |
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Thu Apr-10-08 01:39 PM
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17. Yes. I hope this committe |
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Edited on Thu Apr-10-08 01:41 PM by gateley
kicks some butt like they DIDN'T last week.
EDIT - typo.
But as long as I'm here, who was spewing that CRAP about how GOOD things are going? (Wasn't looking at my screen).
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Thu Apr-10-08 01:40 PM
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Thu Apr-10-08 01:42 PM
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19. The Liberal Lion is speaking right now. n/t |
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Thu Apr-10-08 01:43 PM
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Thu Apr-10-08 01:46 PM
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21. "Subsequent drawdowns based on the situation on the ground". |
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Yesterday I think it was pretty much said the situation on the ground shouldn't be the determining factor at this point. (I think Kennedy's kind of saying just that as I type).
It's more goal post moving.
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Thu Apr-10-08 01:53 PM
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23. the various admin/military folks don't even have their stories straight with each other! nt |
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Thu Apr-10-08 02:08 PM
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33. That's what Hagel the other day |
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called "keeping the policy hostage". These people do not understand (or more likely do not want to accept) the difference between tactics and strategy. You adjust your tactics to the situation on the ground, but you define a strategy that attempt to CHANGE the situation on the ground.
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Thu Apr-10-08 01:50 PM
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22. the family's are strained but these guys do not give an eff. |
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this is total BS, they will keep this going until bushie boy is out.
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Thu Apr-10-08 03:20 PM
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47. That's what Biden said last week. |
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Again, I get the sense they all realize that.
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Thu Apr-10-08 01:54 PM
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24. Kennedy! Don't ASK "shouldn't the Congress have the right to vote on..." |
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TELL them - like Biden told Crocker on Tuesday.
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Thu Apr-10-08 01:55 PM
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26. Biden and many others including GOP said so this a.m.! nt |
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Thu Apr-10-08 01:54 PM
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25. oh, Teddy these guys do not care. |
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Thu Apr-10-08 01:55 PM
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27. We have so many caring, intelligent, logical senators. This must drive them mad. :( |
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Thu Apr-10-08 01:59 PM
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29. no, the ones who do not care are Gates and Mullen |
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they are cronies of bush.
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Thu Apr-10-08 02:03 PM
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31. right, that's how I read what you wrote - just that these hearings are an exercise in frustration. |
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Thu Apr-10-08 01:58 PM
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28. Maliki wants our troops out. |
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these jerks do not listen to us nor to the Iraqi people.
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Thu Apr-10-08 02:02 PM
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30. Maliki doesn't have the power we once hoped for, I don't think. |
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Just for what it's worth. :shrug:
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Thu Apr-10-08 02:05 PM
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32. Literally -- Literally! |
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Hearing Lieberman makes my stomach clench. And there's a BURN, too.
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Thu Apr-10-08 02:11 PM
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Thu Apr-10-08 02:09 PM
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34. Having the Iraqis pick up the bill for their economic reconstruction -- Gates. |
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Everyone seems to forget that we CAUSED the economic destruction of their country. :grr:
That being said, since they do have oil revenue and more than likely will continue to receive it, I think they should pitch in.
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Thu Apr-10-08 02:17 PM
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36. are we sure that Iraqi revenue is going to Iraqis, or to Halliburton or KBR. |
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Edited on Thu Apr-10-08 02:17 PM by alyce douglas
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Thu Apr-10-08 02:23 PM
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41. If WE (Bushco) have anything to say about it, it's going to Halliburton/KBR. nt |
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Thu Apr-10-08 02:17 PM
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37. I'm ashamed to say this, |
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but I'm having trouble paying attention. There's such a different dynamic than in the SFRC.
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Thu Apr-10-08 02:18 PM
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38. there is alot of heavy weights on the SFRC. |
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Thu Apr-10-08 02:19 PM
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40. I'm liking what Levin is saying now, though. My ears have perked up! nt |
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Thu Apr-10-08 02:19 PM
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39. yeah, most of it fades into the background nt |
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Thu Apr-10-08 02:46 PM
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Gates just mentioned Iran and their meddling.
Uh oh... "the iraqi government is increasingly concerned about iran"
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Thu Apr-10-08 03:01 PM
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43. right, which leads up back to Boxer's questions about them walking |
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hand-in-hand and kissing.
He must have meant "Bush's government is..."
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Thu Apr-10-08 03:16 PM
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46. Sigh. They're hammering on that one a LOT. |
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I heard Lieberman ask something like "Is Iran still (something something) and killing American soldiers?". Nice framing, jerk.
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Thu Apr-10-08 03:08 PM
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44. Gates - "Iraqi nationalism is progress" - just like under Saddam? nt |
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Thu Apr-10-08 03:12 PM
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45. Susan Collins, "why isn't Iraq paying for the fuel we use there?' |
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K and R
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Thu Apr-10-08 03:34 PM
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up for re-election in Maine in 2008. Dem. Cong. Tom Allen is opposing her.
Makes me want to drive up there to work for her opponent.
oooh oooh ... wait for it... She is endorsed by Joe Lieberman!!1!
good freakin' grief.
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Thu Apr-10-08 03:29 PM
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remember his kissing their asses the other day?? "I am so proud of the both of you". This should be good,.
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Thu Apr-10-08 03:32 PM
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49. Boy - Graham is really good at leading the witness. |
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If I were an attorney and we were in court, I'd be screaming "objection".
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Thu Apr-10-08 03:33 PM
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51. he's a very smart lawyer - think he is/was a |
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judge advocate general or whatever it's called (military lawyer)
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Thu Apr-10-08 03:32 PM
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50. the problem is not simply the Status of Forces Agreement - it's the additional |
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stuff they want to add in.
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Thu Apr-10-08 03:33 PM
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Thu Apr-10-08 03:33 PM
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53. Iran! coming fast! with nukular weapons! against Israel!!!! |
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Thu Apr-10-08 03:36 PM
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55. graham is insane! n/t |
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Thu Apr-10-08 03:58 PM
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Insane as in: he looked so joyous as he described the Iranian meddling that they're trying so hard to push.
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Thu Apr-10-08 04:00 PM
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58. Thune reading script n/t |
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Reiterating the point which he made earlier that we, and Maliki too, aren't following the Iraqi Presidential Council (not sure of what it's called) which says that ALL militias are prohibited not just the Mahdi army. Asks Adm. Mullin to check into whether this outlawing of the Mahdi Army but not other militias, including Maliki's own militia are prohibited in Iraq's constitution as well. Thinks that they may be.
That's it. Nothing to see here.
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Thu Apr-10-08 04:08 PM
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60. I lost my feed and can't get it back. :-( nt |
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Thu Apr-10-08 04:11 PM
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61. Firefox to the rescue. nt |
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Thu Apr-10-08 04:19 PM
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63. that happened to me earlier too |
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Seriously, these blackouts rarely happened back when dinosaurs roamed the land (about a couple of years ago?). I've wondered if it's Comcast.
Anyway, Levin got that last bit in -- which I definitely appreciated. Sharp guy.
We got to find out (via wikipedia by the way) that Joe Lieberman endorses Susan Collins. I think the shorter list for Joe would be: which repubs does Joe NOT endorse?
I hope that CSPAN1 will repeat the maiden speech of the new Congresswoman from Cali, who has replaced Tom Lantos. Apparently she tore bushco a new one, the thugs stamped their tiny feet, booed and walked out. I'd like to see that one.
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Thu Apr-10-08 04:16 PM
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62. Reid is on CSpan2 -- sounds kind of interesting |
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Thu Apr-10-08 04:19 PM
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64. thanks! will check it out! |
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Thu Apr-10-08 04:25 PM
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65. Gates never should have left TAMU. His dubious tenure at CIA |
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had largely been forgotten about, but now he has a new quagmire to lie about and be associated with. He vallues loyalty to Bush41 over what is good for the country. Not such a good thing for upholding his Aggie Code of Honor (“An Aggie does not lie, cheat, or steal or tolerate those who do”). Tough shit, Ranger65.
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