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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:25 PM
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The Chicago "RIOTS" were not Riots they were Police Brutality and National Security State Repression
Let's get it straight and as we head to Denver recognize this reality:



At rally's end Dellinger announces a march to the Amphitheatre, while Hayden urges the crowd to move in small groups to the Loop. 6,000 join the march line, but, since it has no permit and the police refuse to allow it to use the sidewalks, the march does not move. After an hour of negotiation, the march line begins to break up. Protestors try to cross over to Michigan Avenue, but the Balbo and Congress bridges have been sealed off by National Guardsmen armed with .30 caliber machine guns and grenade launchers. The crowd moves north and finds that the Jackson Street bridge is unguarded. Thousands surge onto Michigan Avenue. Coincidentally, the mule train of Ralph Abernathy's Poor People's Campaign, which has a permit to go to the Amphitheatre, is passing south on Michigan. The crowd joins it. At Michigan and Balbo the crowd is halted again. Only the mule train is allowed to continue.

Deputy Police Superintendent James Rochford orders the police to clear the streets. Demonstrators and bystanders are clubbed, beaten, Maced, and arrested. Some fight back and the attack escalates. The melee last about seventeen minutes and is filmed by the TV crews positioned at the Hilton. While this was probably not the most violent episode of Convention Week—the Lincoln Park and Old Town brawls were more vicious—it drew the most attention from the mass media.

Inside the Amphitheatre, presidential nominations are underway. Senator Abraham Ribicoff, in his speech nominating George McGovern, denounces the "Gestapo tactics on the streets of Chicago." Mayor Daley's shouted reaction was on-camera, but off-mike. Lip-readers later decoded a vulgar rage. Hubert H. Humphrey wins the party's nomination on the first ballot.



The arrest count for Convention Week disturbances stands at 668. An undetermined number of demonstrators sustained injuries, with hospitals reporting that they treated 111 demonstrators. The on-the-street medical teams from the Medical Committee for Human Rights estimated that their medics treated over 1,000 demonstrators at the scene. The police department reported that 192 officers were injured, with 49 officers seeking hospital treatment.

During Convention Week, 308 Americans were killed and 1,144 more were injured in the war in Vietnam.

September 9: In a press conference, Mayor Daley makes a now-famous slip of the tongue: "The policeman isn't there to create disorder, the policeman is there to preserve disorder."

http://www.geocities.com/athens/delphi/1553/c68chron.html



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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:31 PM
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1. Exactly correct. There was no "riot", there was only police brutality and sporadic self-defense. K&R
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:34 PM
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2. Police Riots
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:37 PM
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3. What does Re-create 68 mean to you?
What do they want to re-create?
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:40 PM
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4. They called it "Czechago."
"They called it 'Czechago.' Nowhere else during that decade was dissension so dramatically opposed as on the streets of Chicago during the turbulent Democratic National Convention in August 1968. The barbed wire-laced jeeps in Grant Park evoked images of Russian tanks in the streets of Prague.

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/1553
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:43 PM
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7. I was there I know what it was
I want to know what Re-create 68 wants to re-create
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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:46 PM
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9. Then you should look into it
Hopefully in more detail than did Malloy as he just regurgitated reactionary BS.

But for the purposes of this thread maybe you could recount your personal story of what you witnessed as created by the aggressive and brutal actions of the National Security Apparatus.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:20 PM
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17. Me too.
I lost officer friendly as a concept that day.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:23 PM
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19. That's why I'm having a problem with the name
68 was insane
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 12:41 AM
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23. What a lot of younger folks don't realize
is that '68 was a world wide nightmare.

Riots in major cities all over the world.
It seemed like the wheels were coming off western civilization.

I have been fearing a repeat, and a group that wants that to happen again needs to be 'splainin why. A lot. Everyday.
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 04:38 AM
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24. Here is why I want another 1968.
The system is still as broken for the poor as it was in 1968. The neo conservatives are trying to do away with our social and economic policy advancements in France and have already done so in the USA and the UK. They need to be shown that the people will not tolerate this. I hope May 1 users in another general strike here in France and I hope you have the same in the USA. If the police choose to beat us again that will show that we have not advanced in the past 40 years. The Iraq war is very similar to Vietnam, its about preserving "open markets". Well, why not strike against this system? In many countries around the world????
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 10:52 AM
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29. Here's why I don't
France can suffer a crippling strike and come out the other side with better policy.

The US is so divided that it might slip into a generalized civil war with few geographical boundaries. Because of this, it would go on like Lebanon, not like our first civil war. Denver could start it, with a dollar/gal more for gas by then, and grain shortages projected for winter 08.

I am hoping to avoid those types of powder kegs for a bit, until we start getting a handle on our addiction for oil. Our coming apart will happen on a global basis. The army that would fight that war against itself is scattered across the globe.

By the time it settles into the North American Federation and Jesusland, a lot of really bad shit might happen.

I know. I sound tin foil hattish.
But that is why I want it settled by June, and one party pulling for someone all summer long.

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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:42 PM
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6. You are operating
from a false premise based on shoddy journalism in this case.

The question you pose is absurd.

:hi:
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:45 PM
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8. I am operating on the choosen name
That is all, what do they want to re-create
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:08 PM
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12. what are you trying to say?
are you criticizing re-create 68?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:13 PM
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15. I'm trying to figure out what they want to re-create
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:29 PM
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20. why are you asking this poster?
don't you like history?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:32 PM
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21. That's between me and him
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 11:40 PM by seemslikeadream
it's a continuation of a previous conversation, please. I'm sure he doesn't mind


Like history? I was in Chicago, I experienced it
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:58 PM
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22. Oh I'm sorry I think there is a misunderstanding, I'll explain
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 11:58 PM by seemslikeadream
I was referring to this group http://www.recreate68.org/


We were talking about them earlier, I'm not sure about them
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eomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 07:09 AM
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25. Are you asking whether they have a hidden agenda that is different from their public one?
Because they are pretty clear on their website about their publicly stated purpose:

From their homepage:


Welcome to the "Re-create 68" website, your virtual activists' Convergence Center for the Denver Democratic National Convention of 2008. This website was created for all the grassroots people who are tired of being sold out by the Democratic Party.


R-68 agrees with the proposition, POTESTAS IN POPULO, "all power comes from the people." What stands between the people and power are the party machines. The parties were devised as a means to represent the people. Today they represent nobody, not even party members, but only party bureaucracy. The people have been left without appropriate institutions for their representation. We intend to create those institutions!

Join us in the streets of Denver as we resist a two-party system that allows imperialism and racism to continue unrestrained.

http://www.recreate68.org/


And from the page you get by following the "read more about what Recreate 68 means":


Sometimes we need to look back to move forward. In 1968 there existed a spirit of change, the Paris Rebellion, Prague, Chicago, Vietnam, etc. People believed, around the world, that they were capable of taking over the institutions that controlled their lives. The smell of revolution was in the air. Over 1 million college students openly identified as revolutionist. People believed that through mass participation in the movement, it was possible to wrest control from the elite power-holders. They were not willing to accept the loss of their human and civil rights.

Recreate 68 is not a throwback group trying to relieve some vision of glory days long gone. We are predominantly a youthful group that has realized that 40 years later, we have only produced apathy in our communities towards making effective and lasting change. We intend to recreate that need for change and mass participation in the events that shape and control our lives. We intend to recreate that revolutionary feeling and pick-up where our predecessors left off. It is time to reclaim the ideals that we have forgotten and leap forward by stepping back and using that voice inside of us that has been telling us something is seriously wrong, a voice that is shouting for change, a voice that has realized we live in a police state and we have stopped moving forward 40 years ago. When we recreate positives and discard negatives from our collective memories of the past and realize the true power that the people possess, we will have the ability to make 2008 a very special year. This is the true meaning of Recreate 68. Don’t let this historic moment pass you by. Join us on this journey and have your energies and voices heard in the streets of Denver, as we demand change during the DNC in 2008!

http://www.recreate68.org/album1_dnc_031.htm


That seems pretty clear. Are you asking for clarification, more nuance, of what they say their purpose is or, alternatively, are you asking whether they have a hidden agenda -- a purpose that is different or even opposite to what they say it is? Or maybe you are trying to figure out what they think they will actually end up getting, as opposed to the lofty goals that they are espousing -- in other words, are they naive and likely to achieve an end result different than the one they are imagining or are they aware of possible actual outcomes?

Having only recently (a few years ago) been unplugged from The Matrix (thanks mostly to DU), I'm still a bit disoriented and not sure what I'm supposed to do. What's your opinion about protests like this -- are they just the thing we need to do or are they playing into the hands of Agent Smith?

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 10:22 AM
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28. Here's the problem I'm having
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eomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 11:11 AM
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30. Thanks, got it now. (eom)
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followthemoney Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:15 PM
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16. It is obviously in character with Rush that he wants to recreate...
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 11:16 PM by followthemoney
the authoritarian violent supression of the peoples right to assemble and petition the government.

I believe it was in South Africa where it was illegal to assemble in groups larger than three.

After torture, and pre-emptive war, what is left for the American dictatorship to aspire to?

I hate the homeland dictatorship and its propaganda ministers. I'm ready for a change to undo this crap heap.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:42 PM
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5. This is the event that established that the Democratic power brokers
were willing to destroy the party and hand power to the Republiks, rather than share it with the liberals.

The psychopaths are well and truly in charge. Until we acknowledge this and deal with them as the sick people they are, nothing will be allowed to change, ever.

:kick: & R



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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:54 PM
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10. Exactly! It was a well set-up dramatic spectacle, with fictional heroes and villains. nt
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:22 PM
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18. Which changed over time or perspective.
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 11:23 PM by BleedingHeartPatriot
edit, spot on. :toast:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:55 PM
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11. Thank you! K&R
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:10 PM
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13. thanks for reminding people
seems like those that were around don't remember, and those that weren't have never heard.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:13 PM
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14. Yes Indeed!
Thank You for the reminder.

:)
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 07:11 AM
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26. K&R
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 07:47 AM
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27. K&R
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