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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:15 AM
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"She would rather kill herself than go back to prison"...
From a report on NBC. Palfrey told this to an author. No other details on this available, yet.
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:17 AM
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1. I heard that
I thought it was a very convenient quote, how they seemed to have it ready WITH the story of her 'suicide'.
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:23 AM
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2. I take it you've never been to prison
it's not an uncommon sentiment amount those who've spent time locked up

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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:50 AM
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19. Nevertheless
There are an awful lot of people who end up going back and not many actually do kill themslves.
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 04:34 PM
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26. of course but
there are many who do hold that sentiment.
and of those many lack the chance or courage of their convictions and do go back.

I spent some time in LA county years ago.
I swore to myself they'd shoot my ass dead before I ever went back.
Thankfully I never had to test just how strongly I felt about it.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:31 AM
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8. She told this to Dan Moldea...here is a link
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:24 AM
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16. I am already sick of the conspiracy bullshit
The facts point to suicide. It sucks and as much as we like to blame EVERYTHING on the Bush administration, apparently we can't.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:44 AM
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18. Exactly how I feel n/t
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:01 AM
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20. Believe me.
It was not suicide. I know.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:19 AM
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21. How do you know? Do you have proof?
Edited on Fri May-02-08 09:38 AM by cynatnite
Do you know something the rest of the world doesn't? Where you there?
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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 04:51 PM
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29. do tell, even if you have to private.
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:18 AM
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25. Given that more Dem names were on the list than Repubs according to Larry Flynt
any conspiracy theorists may want to turn their eyes in a different direction.

Also, according to Flynt the only "family values" person on the list was Vitter. So those waiting for a big gotcha come election time from Flynt can apparently stop hoping at this point.

Flynt's quotes are in this article: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,353876,00.html


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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:26 PM
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32. I agree...she was basically facing a life sentence
50 years at her age?

What's the point? It's life without parole. I'd off myself too.
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:17 AM
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24. She's on the record saying she wouldn't commit suicide
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:27 PM
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33. She's also on the record saying she would
Needless to say, you believe the record you want to believe. But don't tell us that it is the only record.
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PetrusMonsFormicarum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:25 AM
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3. She also said
that if she died in the months after the verdict, it would *not* be suicide.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:28 AM
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7. I heard on NovaMRadio that it was another affiliated with this that said that and
Edited on Fri May-02-08 06:28 AM by Breeze54
she also committed suicide.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:33 AM
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9. I think people say a lot of things that shouldn't be taken with a grain of salt...
That was one of them.

I do think it was suicide. She didn't want to go back to prison and took her own life. Very tragic, IMO.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 04:44 PM
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27. Believe what you want.
Edited on Fri May-02-08 04:44 PM by TheWatcher
She has been on the record several times saying she had no intentions of doing anything like that, and if if she was found dead that it definitely would not be the case.

Believe whatever makes you feel comfortable.

That seems to be the tonic that gets most Americans through the day, so that they don't have to cope with any other more complicated possibilities.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:25 AM
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4. How did she suicide herself?
Bullet in the back of the head? Cement shoes while swimming? multiple stab wounds on the upper torso?
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:26 AM
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5. The news said hung herself nt
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:27 AM
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6. Hung herself in the laundry room... n/t
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:34 AM
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10. Last night on Dan Abrams, a Vanity Fair person claims to have received emails from Palfrey claiming
she would rather commit suicide than spend any more jail time.

I personally heard Palfrey say on an Internet radio show that she would Never commit suicide.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:39 AM
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11. Here is a link I found...
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-ap-escort-list,0,6506863.story?track=rss

I think people say a lot of things they don't mean. IMO, she committed suicide rather than go to prison.

People have to decide for themselves who they believe.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:22 PM
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31. True, this is hearsay
Someone saying she said something doesn't mean she said it.

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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:52 AM
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12. BREAKING: Palfrey suicide note released:
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:04 AM
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14. Haha!!!
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 04:48 PM
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28. Now this is funny
Sad but funny. I wouldn't doubt it.
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:53 AM
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13. I feel so sad for the family.
Why does the government try to control peoples body's.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:17 AM
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15. Isn't if funny how quickly they are to report this as a suicide?
Most deaths regardless of how obvious are not ruled suicide so quickly. Has the ME ruled this suicide?
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:00 AM
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17. A Very Complex And Secrative Lady...
Think on this one...for over a decade she ran a high-priced "pleasure" operation...living on the dark side of society and having to keep a lot of secrets to survive. The person she likely was most secret about was herself...using an assumed name and working behind the scenes...having to steel emotions and always be guarded about who you talk to and what you say. In the end, she's left us with two different quotes that only beg for more questions to be asked. It'll be interesting to see what was on those notes that were left behind. I would suspect this woman was under tremendous stress and angst in having to go to jail for the rest of her natural life...even with an appeal (I haven't seen any word if she would remain free on appeal) the drain on her finances, emotions and body had to be taking a toll.
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:25 AM
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22. I don't know much about this case.
Can someone help me out here? Is fifty years a normal prison sentence for this kind of thing? Racketeering? Isn't that what they get you on if they just want to take you down.

It's just that it seems staggering in context of other crimes. Rapists don't get 50 years. Hell, Scooter Libby's walking free and he committed treason in a time of war. Something that would have got most people a firing squad. Why aren't the people who used her service charged with anything?

It seems like someone really wanted her swept under the rug.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:32 AM
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23. I believe that was the max she could have gotten...
I heard on the news that she probably would have served five or six years. If she'd had bush for a friend like Scooter did, she probably wouldn't have served a day in prison.
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ogsbee Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 04:52 PM
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30. This is based on the word of Dan Moldea, gubmint smoke blower?
See http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3235858

Dan's an old hand at this, he's been confusing the issues starting with the JFK assassination theories.
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