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pbca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:37 PM
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Gas prices are only going to go up
I've posted this a few times today, but I thought I would just make it it's own post and be done with it. There is no way to legislate lower gas prices.

Most drivers are still in denial. It is not going to change, gas prices aren't coming down ever - ethanol/biofuel is not really a solution and in light of the world food crisis should be banned. Cutting gas taxes isn't a solution: it might reduce prices by a few cents for a few days - at a cost of billions to government, but within a few weekes you wouldn't be able to tell that anything had been done.

It should also be said that people don't even have a real right to be angry. Anyone who was paying attention has known this was coming for 30 years now and no one did anything, because it wasn't something voters were interested in.

The reality is people have to stop commuting, get on busses and trains and get ready to give up their cars (unless they are very rich). People can rail against this all they like, they can remain in denial but it isn't going to change a thing - and any politician who tells you differently is lying.

The gas tax holiday won't change a thing - if oil companies are forced to pay the tax, they will raise prices
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:38 PM
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1. I predict they'll go back down next fall
to try to jolly conservative suckers into voting GOP again.
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pbca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:40 PM
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2. Maybe a little, for a little while
but only if the government pays for it and takes on further debt, they are rising at the same rate all over the world.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:41 PM
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12. The corporate welfare given to Big Oil
was a quid pro quo for lowering prices in the fall of 2006. Undoubtedly they'll promise the same this time, but don't expect the oil companies do do more than knock fifty cents off whatever the top is this summer.

Big Oil is bracing for a Democratic administration. They know those corporate giveaways are probably history.
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pbca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 03:27 PM
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13. And when the govt. handouts go away
the prices will go up sharply
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:44 PM
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4. They're Raising them Extra High Now, So When They Go Back Under $4 Just Before Election Day
the suckers will say "happy days are here again" and vote for McCain.

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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:44 PM
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3. yes
I have been following this for a while but I thought it would happen a few decades from now.
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cmarie Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:52 PM
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7. Me too
Me too... I didn't think we'd be dealing with a situation this serious in 2008. It really is a massive problem. Unfortunately, the public's attention continues to get monopolized by the same handful of issues. We might be paying closer attention now, but it's way too little too late. A plan of attack 30 years ago would be making a big difference now. All in hindsight, I suppose.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:48 PM
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5. get the warmongers the hell out of the middle east and let it settle back down to business.
then the oil prices will fall.

its a direct consequence of the bushco actions.

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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:52 PM
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6. the decline of the US dollar is not helping and also the
continued saber rattling of invading Iran.
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cmarie Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:55 PM
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8. Fall of the Dollar
The fall of the dollar is horrible... and it has awful consequences internationally. Americans are really taking a bath in terms of goods, services, and even travel.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:00 PM
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9. chrysler is starting a promotion where you'll get $2.99 gas for 3 years...
Edited on Tue May-06-08 02:00 PM by QuestionAll
you're limited to 700 gallons per year- but if gas is $10/gallon within 3 years, it could be worth a bundle.

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/story?id=4791989&page=1
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elizfeelinggreat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:06 PM
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10. I'm angry
I agree with you wholeheartedly (and I think the gas tax holiday is hogwash).

I'm still angry.

I'm angry at Bush for pretending he could "sway" his friends in oil

I'm angry at people who voted for that crap.

I'm angry at the auto manufacturers and politicians who haven't addressed the obvious need for fuel efficiency.

I'm angry at the city managers/planners, etc. who didn't do their job. They didn't PLAN for the obvious.

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predfan Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:10 PM
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11. to quote Dick Cheney " High gas prices are a sign of a failed administration" How prophetic!
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Jack_DeLeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 03:30 PM
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14. If you are rich enough to be able to afford to drive in the future...
Edited on Tue May-06-08 03:31 PM by Jack_DeLeon
it will be nice because there wont be so much traffic.

Also there will be less pollution.

Unfortunately I dont think I'll be able to afford it. I'm just going to have to hope I find a good enough place to settle down and try to be be somewhat self sufficient as modern society comes abruptly to a halt.
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