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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:08 AM
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LTTE: Dems who may vote McCain, but it sounds like Republicans pretending to be Democrats
Edited on Mon May-12-08 12:11 AM by pepperbear
among their reasons:

Actions speak louder than words. He does not respect America -- won't wear a flag on his lapel, won't put his hand over his heart during the pledge of allegiance and has been associated with some unsavory figures.

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=188801&src=

Of course there are people stupid enough to vote for McCain if their candidate doesn't get the nomination, but flag lapels and pledges are more the province of conservatives. Some here may buy it, but I sure as hell ain't!

And if you can stand it, you should really take a look at some of the comments at FR.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2014637/posts







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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:17 AM
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1. I think a sizeable # of former Republicans switched sides & assumed ...
........Clinton couldnt lose.

In that number I would include many special interests once solidly behind Bush that wanted to maintain influence with the person they were sure was going to be the next President.
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:36 AM
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2. Some small number of crankypusses will vote McCain if Clinton doesn't get the nom, but it ain't many
The basic facts are that McCain wants to continue the war and Obama wants to end it.

That's a pretty stark choice.

Most people are damn sick of this war in Iraq already, and they're not going to vote for the deaths of thousands more soldiers and spending hundreds of billions more dollars just because Obama didn't wear a flag pin.
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Useful Idiot Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 04:51 AM
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3. lol
Edited on Mon May-12-08 04:51 AM by Useful Idiot
If you think Obama is going to "end the war" you are being very naive about election year politics and politics in general. The war will "end" but it will be through the use of oratory and semantics, nothing more. When the speeches are all over U.S. troops will still be on the ground in Iraq for the foreseeable future-Maybe under the auspices of some sort of UN or NATO force, but they will be there.

After all Obama will want to get re-elected if he wins. This country is not solely filled with bleeding heart liberals such as those found here at DU. Democrats in the mold of Sam Nunn (which are in short supply these days) know the score. The bloodbath unleashed in Iraq because of a mistaken unilateralist intervention would be compounded by a cowardly precipitous withdrawal. Obama is well aware of the perception he will bring to Washington as a left of center liberal Dem and he simply cannot afford to look weak in a 1st term, if at all- It is never entirely safe to be on the left of a strategic debate.
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 09:27 AM
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5. LOL yourself
McCain wants to keep our occupation in Iraq going indefinitely. Obama wants to remove our combat brigades and bring an end to the occupation in a responsible way. That's what he's campaigned on, not the "cowardly precipitous withdrawal" that you think all the "bleeding heart liberals" here believe in. That's the choice on the table, and it's not mere "oratory or semantics".

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:27 AM
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4. I have absolutely no doubt the Bushies are doing this. Their Fuhrers order, the followers do.
Same as it always is with Bushies, Nazis, and all totalitarians like them.

They all traffic in lies and deceit as their main coin, they all behave as if speaking even the tiniest truth for the shortest time would burn their lips off, and they all have one goal in mind, unchecked totalitarian power, for which no abuse, no lie is too great to tell in the service of the Bushies' "great cause".

Absolutely no doubt this is part of their propaganda campaign.
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