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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:14 AM
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Howard Dean vindicated. Dems pick up traditionally R district in North Mississippi tonight.
And the pick-up was a blow-out by North Mississippi standards: Childers beat the Republican Davis by a whopping 54-46 margin. Check out the TPM scoreboard:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/05/_clinton_obama.php

It's obvious if one talks to Republican congressional leaders that this seen as a dark omen for election prospects in November. It could turn out to be one of the worst electoral massacres seen in decades, quite possibly the worst in the post-WW2-era.

Howard Dean's strategy of running a 50-state campaign and maintaining staff in each state obviously helped. The staff was already on the ground when the Childers-Davis election took off, and it forced the Republicans to expend roughly 20 percent of their total cash just to make Davis win, and they lost. 1.7 million was spent, and Childers still won over Davis, spectacularly. This, in a district that had been won by the previous Republican 7 times in a row.

This election is essentially a realignment election and an election for change. Younger voters have registered more often as Democrats than as Republicans, and for the last two election cycles, they've voted for the Democrats. (Kerry in 2004, Democrats in 2006 congressional races) If the trend holds up, they will vote a third time for the Democratic nominee for president as well as for Democrats in congressional races.

Once that happens, it seems a voting habit is established for that voter, and I would guess he or she would more than not vote for the Democrat for the rest of his or her life, depending on if the Democrats push through reforms real or perceived.

The polls say somewhere around 80 percent of Americans think the US is on the wrong track, and Bush approval numbers are probably as bad or worse than even Nixon's. The Democrats have easily painted themselves as the party of change and new ideas, and people are frankly upset at what the Republicans and Bush have offered, which is why Republicans lost both the House and Senate.

What's more: Younger voters are not as beholden to "identity politics" as older generations were. Things like abortion and gay marriage, although divisive, are less so with younger voters, who generally take a more tolerant approach.

Even a portion of the young evangelical Christians are leaning Democrat, identifying more with the message of social justice, and they perceive Democrats as more willing to set up programs to aid the poor and fight poverty and provide opportunities, issues often lost in the screaming matches over abortion, gay marriage, stem cell research, etc.

With things as they currently are, the Republicans are set for disaster barring something unexpected, such as a terrorist attack or a violent conflict with Iran. At that point, it would be difficult to guess where the country will head.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:21 AM
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1. ....
:applause: for Chairman Dean!!! :woohoo:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:24 AM
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2. He said: "You have to go to red states and tell them who you are."
And we did, and we won.

One good thing is that the GOP used Obama ties to hurt Childers, but he won anyway.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:29 AM
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3. Yeah, the strategy backfired, and they ran that strategy for several weeks.
I know because I heard them all over the radio here in Mississippi. I think it may have hurt more than helped because what Obama does has less relevance than immediate issues to deal with up in that corner of Mississippi, like jobs, gas prices, and the local economy. People wanted to hear about local issues, not what Obama is doing several states away.
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Sunnyshine Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:38 AM
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4. K&R- For the Republicans worst nightmare come true!
I absolutely agree with you here Selatius:
"This election is essentially a realignment election and an election for change."

Yes, this is our year to show them how to get things done around this country.
We must lead our nation into better days to come. Our party is alive and kickin, once again!

Your post is spot on! Thanks.:toast:
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:49 AM
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6. We need more people like Dean, and we must guard against anyone who will junk the 50-state strategy.
Howard Dean was derided as a fool by putting staff and spending money in such states as Mississippi, but it helped when Childers ran. Who's laughing last? Certainly not somebody like Paul Begala, who famously quipped that all they'd be doing in states like Utah and Mississippi is walking around picking their noses when asked his opinion about the newly unveiled 50-state strategy.

Dean's strategy and the netroots donors really helped. Only a fool would switch course and go the opposite way.
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Sunnyshine Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:12 AM
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10. For sure, and having our boots on the ground in 50 States is key.
This is what has been missing from the equation for the Dem party for so long. The Begala's and Carville's know they are on their way out. They can stay in the party, but they should be banned from ever being involved in our campaign leadership. They are two-faced. They have nothing positive to offer, other than rubbing soothing ointment on the raw a$$ of their former employers. You know they love them some DLC chickenhawks.:evilgrin:
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:46 AM
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5. 2006 was not the realignment. It was only setting the stage for the coming landslide.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:53 AM
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7. 2008 is the realignment election. I agree. Sorry if I was not clear on that.
I mentioned the 2004 election, 2006 races, and the upcoming election in 2008 in order to show that voters who start off voting for a certain party several times in a row make that party the preferred choice, simply because that party has earned the voter's loyalty.

Young voters are likely to make it a third time. That's a good sign as far as the next generation of voters being Democrats.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:55 AM
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8. I didn't mean to imply a contrast to your post. Apologies.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:02 AM
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9. No apologies. We did good tonight. If I weren't sick, I'd be drinking.
:toast:
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 03:29 AM
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11. Excellent commentary on sharing the credit with Chairman Dean.
Howard is the real deal! Thanks!
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 10:32 AM
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18. if he could only jerk the jelly-fish leadership in Congress into action
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:10 PM
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22. This frustrates me too
I'm a huge fan of Dean and the 50 state strategy and yet it feels somewhat wasted when Congress gives in to this administration at every turn.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 03:33 AM
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12. Kick
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Cieran Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 03:35 AM
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13. K & R
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 06:06 AM
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14. Howie Dean is the greatest
He rocks.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 06:27 AM
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15. TPM Said Something Nice About Dean?
Color me shocked.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 06:29 AM
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16. Childers is also as far to the right as most Republicans
That "D" behind his name is sort of misleading.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 06:32 AM
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17. Wasn't there also a pick up in Nebraska?. . . . .n/t
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 10:40 AM
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19. I love this!
It's obvious if one talks to Republican congressional leaders that this seen as a dark omen for election prospects in November. It could turn out to be one of the worst electoral massacres seen in decades, quite possibly the worst in the post-WW2-era.

I'll exhaust myself doing a happy dance.

Dr. Dean is the best! :loveya: :yourock: :applause: :woohoo:
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 03:30 PM
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20. Thank you Dr. Dean.
:kick:
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:06 PM
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21. Howard Dean is the man!
I am so proud of the many things he has accomplished.
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