DOJ Wants Your DNA; Unclear Whether Projectile Saliva Donation Will Be Permitted

[babylonsister]

DOJ Wants Your DNA; Unclear Whether Projectile Saliva Donation Will Be Permitted
Submitted by davidswanson on Wed, 2008-05-14 18:59.

From Sue Udry:


Have you ever been arrested while protesting at the White House or in Congress? The next time you're arrested,* the Justice Department wants federal police to harvest your DNA, and add it to their massive DNA database.* This outrageous proposal would add the genetic information of thousands of peaceful activists to the government database, which already contains over 6 million DNA profiles. Every profile added increases the chances of a false match, misuse of data and the power of big brother. That adds an unacceptable risk to our right to protest using civil disobedience.

Speak out now against the latest Bush Administration assault on our privacy. The deadline for comments is May 19 at 4 p.m. eastern.

The Justice Department is making this proposal as part of a rule for implementing the DNA Fingerprint Act of 2005. The new rule would require federal agencies to:

· Collect DNA samples of _everyone_ arrested at the time of arrest (prior to conviction – that is, when you are still supposed to be considered innocent)

· Collect DNA samples of every non-citizen when detained by federal authorities (not arrested, charged or convicted, just detained!)

· /And/, the rule would allow private contractors to collect the DNA samples

more...

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/33424

[Redstone]

1. Are we living in the United Soviet States of (formerly) America yet? I think that

we are, indeed.

Redstone

[ms liberty]

2. The title alone deserves a DUzy...Thanks for the laugh...K&R... n/t

[razors edge]

3. Perhaps the time is nearing

where we should consider extracting DNA ourselves.

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

TJ

[Trillo]

4. I'd add at least one more thing to that talking points list

Each of us should own our own DNA, as in "capitalist" property. My creator gave me mine, and placed it behind cell walls that must be broken down to access, so authorities getting it should require probable cause and a warrant, along with any oversight that process contains.

Any other usage, with permission, should require continuous payment.

Instead, our Thiefs in Charge want to force us to give it to "private contractors" for who knows what ultimate purpose. One thing I do know is that whatever they're saying today as rationale, the lying, deceiving, duplicitous lips are in motion.

[crickets]

6. You got it.

My creator gave me mine, and placed it behind cell walls that must be broken down to access, so authorities getting it should require probable cause and a warrant, along with any oversight that process contains.

EXACTLY! Thank you. Unless someone leaves it behind at a crime scene, DNA is internal and should require a warrant with probable cause. Allowing private contractors to collect DNA? Oh, I don't think so. NO.

[XemaSab]

5. There's a kiosk outside the local grocery

doing fingerprinting on kids ostensibly for "missing children's" awareness.

Let's just say I'm suspicious.

The Oakland Police got my fingerprints when I was in third grade for "missing children's" bullshit, and I want them back. :grr:

[crickets]

7. "Projectile Saliva Donation"

Hee! That's the only way they'd voluntarily get it from me.

[babylonsister]

8. .