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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 01:35 PM
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Gas price jumped another 10 cents overnight
Edited on Sat May-17-08 01:36 PM by Texas Explorer
Had to go out for a bit and discovered the second 10¢ jump up in gas prices just in the past 5 days. I don't have to go out much but it seems every time I do gas has increased substantially from the last time.

It's almost as if the price of gas is on a hyperbolic trajectory. I wonder what could cause that?
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 01:37 PM
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1. Greed
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 01:59 PM
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7. we are at $4.15 here. Our governor wants to institute a program
where each resident gets a card that will allow us to have $100/month for a year to pay for gas, oil, heating, electrical, whatever we choose. anything that isn't used up in a month rolls over.
Go, Alaska. SIGH!
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 02:47 PM
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8. I forgot to put the price in my OP. $3.70/gallon here in N Texas. n/t
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 01:37 PM
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2. Wonder no more
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 01:37 PM
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3. A full tank is an investment that pays better interest than the bank
does.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 01:39 PM
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4. Stocks of companies making locking caps surge...
Prices, not reality. The new Corporate Plan.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 01:45 PM
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6. Expect to see more reports like these :
Edited on Sat May-17-08 01:45 PM by Texas Explorer
http://www.todaysthv.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=65952&catid=2">Theft Rises With Gas Prices



The pain at the pump has authorities and auto suppliers reporting an increase in gas thefts. "The money you make is just going to gas cost," Andrew Jefferson says.

As gas prices rise more thieves are picking up the hose and siphoning gas from cars.

Jefferson adds, "It's a '99 Suburban and it's kind of weird that it doesn't have a security cap because someone can come siphon gas out, there have been stories that people have been also putting holes in gas tanks. That's kind of scary."

Auto part stores like O'reilly's have seen a steady increase in gas cap sales in recent months.

John Lawrence shows us a gas cap they sell, "We have about five different caps that will fit 95% of our cars today and depending on the type of vehicle they will run anywhere from 8 to 12 dollars."

Petroleum Marketers Association of America estimate in 2006 gas theft totaled about 122 million and escalated to about 134 million in 2007.

-snip-
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 03:44 PM
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11. most newer cars and mine is a 98 chev
have a little ball at the end of the fuel fill before the tank. Can't get anything past that pesky little thing. I found out when I had to change the fuel pump with a almost full tank last year.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 01:44 PM
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5. Commodity trading based on speculation
Give the traders and excuse for "panic" via news, and the price per barrel goes up, the gas prices rise.

Corporations drive global politics.

We are so fucked.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 02:53 PM
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9. You want Cheaper Gas? ..............Then do this....
END THE FUCKING WAR!


The military is the major consumer of gasoline and fuel
in the United States, more than all the Airlines and public transport combined.





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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 03:13 PM
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10. My S/O never wants to hear about oil and gas prices and
I assumed it was because I'm on top of it most of the time and she is just tired of hearing about it. But today I went out before she did and when I came home I reported that gas had gone up another ten cents overnight she just stared off in the distance with her hand over her mouth and tears began to well up in her eyes and her face got red.

I asked her what was wrong and she said "I know it did. We heard about it on the radio at work yesterday that it was going to go up."

"But why are you tearing up now," I asked.

"You seem to think I'm not aware of what's going on. Watching gas go up makes me sick to my stomach. It isn't stopping and it's scaring me," she said, crying.

"It's scaring me too."
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 03:46 PM
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12. Common Dreams just a while go printed this after my post.

Published on Saturday, May 17, 2008 by CommonDreams.org
Want Cheaper Gas and Oil? End the Damned Wars!
by Dave Lindorff



snip>>>>>


In an article titled “Worried About the Price of Gas? End US Wars,” Hussein-Zadeh writes, “Soon after the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq the price of oil began to escalate in tandem with the escalation of war and political turbulence in the Middle East.” Furthermore, he says, “Anytime there is a renewed US military threat against Iran, fuel prices move up several notches.” If the US were to actually make good on Bush’s and Cheney’s threats to attack Iran, in Hussein-Zadeh’s view “the sky would be the limit” to oil prices, with $200/barrel being a starting point.

The dollar’s fall, too, is significantly a result of the wars-particularly the Iraq War, he says. That war has been costing the US $200 billion a year, all in borrowed funds. That in itself is a huge hole that has to be funded by borrowing from China, Japan, Saudi Arabia and other nations. But as Nobel economist Joseph Stiglitz has pointed out, the true cost of the Iraq War, when interest on debt, health costs of injured veterans and other long-term costs are factored in, is more like $3 trillion and rising. And when currency speculators and traders — the ones who really set the value of the dollar — make their bets, they’re looking at that bigger number, not the little one.

Moreover, it’s not just oil that has been driven up in price because of the war. As energy costs have gone up, so has the cost of food, in no small part because most fertilizer is oil-based, and because transportation costs are also largely a reflection of oil prices. As well, to the extent that American’s food is imported, they are paying in shrinking dollars, whose value is being driven down because of the war.

Hussein-Zadeh says the Bush/Cheney administration and its neoconservative war promoters have worked hard to offer other more benign explanations for the crippling rise in energy prices, and food prices. As he puts it:

Neoconservative forces in and around the Bush administration and beneficiaries of war dividends — wishing to deflect attention away from war as the main culprit for the skyrocketing energy prices — tend to blame secondary or marginally relevant factors: OPEC, China and India for their increased demand for energy, or supply-demand imbalances in global markets. Whatever the contributory role of these factors, the fact remains that the current oil price hikes started with the beginning of the Bush administration’s wars against Iraq and Afghanistan. Furthermore, a closer examination of these factors reveals that their roles in the current price inflation of oil have been negligible.

Common sense bears him out here. China’s and India’s economies have indeed been growing rapidly, and with them, demand for oil, but over the past five years, oil prices have risen 400%, and the same cannot be said for demand. Even if Chinese and Indian growth figures of 7-9 percent per year were accurate (and there is reason to believe they are grossly inflated), that at best would amount to perhaps a 50% increase in economic activity over five years. In fact, during this time more efficient energy use in the developed countries has largely offset much of the increasing demand for oil in China and India, and even in China and India, much of the energy growth has involved replacing inefficient vehicles and power plants with more efficient ones, so oil consumption isn’t rising in lock step with economic growth.

The answer then, to rising oil prices, is obvious then. It is not some silly two-month moratorium on federal taxes-what Sen. McCain referred to, in a candid moment, as a “little gift” to American vacationers. Nor is it opening up the Artic refuge to drilling — a move that would take years to lead to any significant new supply, and which in any case would have minimal impact on overall supply, or on prices. Nor is it opening up the Strategic Oil Reserve — another drop in the barrel. Nor is it hammering OPEC to boost production — something they have already done. No, it is much simpler. As Hussein-Zadeh puts it:

The political implications of this discussion are clear: to bring down the prices of fuel and food requires bringing home the troops. By lowering the energy costs of production and transportation this will help save our own and many other economies from the plagues of inflation and stagnation. It will bring relief to hundreds of millions worldwide who are burdened by crippling energy bills and the crushing costs of feeding their families.

Got that people? If you want to see gasoline drop back below $3.89/gal, get Congress to end the war!


http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/05/17/9017/
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I read something last week on the amount of fuel the military uses and it was staggering.

I'll try to find that too.

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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 11:46 PM
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13. I'm sure Bush touring the Middle East has NOTHING to do with it
:sarcasm:

can he just go home to the ranch and play with brush for the next 7 months, please?

Saw my first over $4.00 today - $4.03, upstate NY
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:22 AM
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14. I'm just back from Seattle where regular is bumping $4
My buddy up there is patting himself on the back for buying his Prius 2 yrs ago. I gave him a lot of grief about being a "latte-sippin, Prius drivin" Seattle-ite but he got the last laugh.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:23 AM
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15. "That's interesting!" - GW Bush
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