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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 04:29 PM
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Stop calling Bush's Grandfather an "appeaser"
Prescott Bush was a Collaborator...

appease

1. to bring to a state of peace, quiet, ease, calm, or contentment; pacify; soothe: to appease an angry king.
2. to satisfy, allay, or relieve; assuage: The fruit appeased his hunger.
3. to yield or concede to the belligerent demands of (a nation, group, person, etc.) in a conciliatory effort, sometimes at the expense of justice or other principles.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/appeaser

Collaborate

1. to work, one with another; cooperate, as on a literary work: They collaborated on a novel.
2. to cooperate, usually willingly, with an enemy nation, esp. with an enemy occupying one's country: He collaborated with the Nazis during World War II.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Collaborator

Nazis and Nazi Collaborators (Punishment) Law, 5710-1950*

SNIP>

"crime against humanity" means any of the following acts:

murder, extermination, enslavement, starvation or deportation and other inhumane acts committed against any civilian population, and persecution on national, racial, religious or political grounds;

"war crime" means any of the following acts:

murder, ill-treatment or deportation to forced labour or for any other purpose, of civilian population of or in occupied territory; murder Or ill-treatment of prisoners of war or persons on the seas; killing of hostages; plunder of public or private property; wanton destruction of cities, towns or villages; and devastation not justified by military necessity.

http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/MFAArchive/1950_1959/Nazis%20and%20Nazi%20Collaborators%20-Punishment-%20Law-%20571

Pursuit of Nazi collaborators

http://www.indopedia.org/Pursuit_of_Nazi_collaborators.html#Background
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 04:31 PM
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1. Great point
K & R
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 04:33 PM
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2. Don't forget "conspirator." nt
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 04:35 PM
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3. While we're at it
How about "Enabler?"
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 04:38 PM
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5. GTSY Capt...
Edited on Tue May-20-08 04:48 PM by Hubert Flottz
The entire GOP has been "Appeasing" a ruthless and unremorseful Decider/Dictator for almost 8 years now.

dictator –noun

1. a person exercising absolute power, esp. a ruler who has absolute, unrestricted control in a government without hereditary succession.
2. (in ancient Rome) a person invested with supreme authority during a crisis, the regular magistracy being subordinated to him until the crisis was met.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/dictator


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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 04:36 PM
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4. EXCELLENT point! nt
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 04:39 PM
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6. touche
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Bob Dobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 04:47 PM
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7. More like "Traitor"
His grandson takes after him.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:51 PM
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20. Zackary!
Zackery what I was thinkin!
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 04:52 PM
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8. kick for accuracy
You are correct.

:kick: :patriot:
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 04:54 PM
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11. very well put...K and R
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 04:52 PM
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9. "Enabler" is applicable too.
;-)
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 04:53 PM
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10. I call him an enabler
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:06 PM
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12. Good point. Words and framing matter n/t
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:16 PM
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13. More like "Financial Architect"
Or "strategic investor" in the Nazi Party.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:21 PM
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14. Heh. IIRC, the Guardian article said he was too stupid to be the architect.
They implied that he may have just been the puppet of Harriman and George Herbert Walker.

Hmmm.... who does that sound like?


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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:01 PM
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21. Ooo, good point
I also appreciate the Harriman/Brown/Brown&Root/Halliburton corporate succession.

It's amazing that they've managed a clear heirarchy over half a century.
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:27 PM
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15. Yes, "collaborator" is the word to use...
...never mind "enabler", that is a little too tied to psychology. Collaborator has a specific meaning under the law and also a negative connotation that pretty much everyone who hears it knows. So let's be sure and pin that one on old Grampa Prescott.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:06 PM
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16. And since Bush brought up the word NAZI, I think we should shine
Edited on Tue May-20-08 06:08 PM by Hubert Flottz
all light we can on the Bush family's NAZI connection.

Edit...The story needs to be told at long last.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:13 PM
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17. A good word for him: traitor.
Also a good word for Dubya and for Darth Cheney.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:48 PM
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18. TRAITOR TRAITOR TRAITOR Bush family. nm
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:49 PM
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19. True, but the reason I like "collaborator"...
...is you can use the term without seeming over-the-top in making accusations.

I know, I know, it's not really over the top. But to John & Jane Q Public, who do not follow this stuff as closely, it is important to get the idea out there, and I fear that "traitor" would turn them off, it would signal to them someone with an agenda. Whereas "collaborator" still has the same negative connotation, but can be expanded upon, thus telling more of the story.

Just my $.02, I'll stop now. :-)
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:52 PM
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22. Hubert Flottz - the voice of precision
Thank you for being the voice of precision.

Here's some more. There's dirt to go on this one.

"Meanwhile, Averell Harriman had launched the Hamburg-Amerika line of steamships to facilitate the bank’s dealings with Germany, and made Prescott Bush a director. The ships delivered fuel, steel, coal, gold and money to Germany as Hitler was consolidating his power and building his war machine."

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2008/051808.html
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:09 PM
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23. That's our Hubert!
Edited on Tue May-20-08 10:09 PM by MountainLaurel
:bounce:
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:54 PM
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24. Thanks for the link...
Here are a couple more good places to look for the "Trading With The Enemy" story...

George Bush:
The
Unauthorized
Biography
by
Webster G. Tarpley
&
Anton Chaitkin

http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htm#4%20--

Chapter - II - The Hitler Project

Bush Property Seized--Trading with the Enemy

http://www.tarpley.net/bush2.htm

Trading With the Enemy (Paperback)
by Charles Higham

http://www.amazon.com/Trading-Enemy-Charles-Higham/dp/044019055X

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 02:54 AM
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25. Thos are great sources as well.
Tarpley's account is really amazing. Higham is first rate too.

Time for this one to hit the news stands. Bush brought it up. It's in play;)

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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 03:09 AM
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26. Traitor
I use the term in it's full, legal sense. The US Constitution says that treason lies in making war on the USA or "adhering to her enemies, giving them aid and comfort". The actions of Prescott Bush were, legally and morally, treason.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 03:11 AM
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27. Damn, you beat me to it
Yes, traitor. The guy should have been hanged.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 03:20 AM
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28. yep
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 05:09 AM
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29. The PUTZI said NAZI!
JR. kicked the door wide open the other day when he used that one nasty word in Israel and I hope now, that those pent up skeletons can all fall out for roll call, ASAP.

BTW, I think Commander Jr. missed a few Roll Calls himself back around 1970-74, but I guess the TANG/AWOL story is another skeleton for another day.
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 07:49 AM
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31. Yes, let's dig him up and hang him!!
That will make everyone feel much better about themselves!
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:51 PM
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35. Agreed
I'm not one to throw around an accusation of treason lightly but in this case, it's warranted. Assuming due process of law bears that out, hanging was the usual sentence.

BTW, thank you so much for saying "hanged", not "hung". It's a pet peeve of mine.
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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 07:46 AM
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30. Kick n/t
:kick:
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:00 AM
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32. Ramen Hubert! There are none so blind as those who Nazi.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:38 AM
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34. I guess the Bible thumpers over at Our Lady Of The M-16 are all
still proud as can be of the fact that they all voted for Brother Bush not just once, but twice, just like the preachers told them to do.

I guess that same "faithful" crowd will vote for McCain to go right on bombing, plundering and pillaging for the next 100 years without remorse.
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:04 AM
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33. Actually he committed out and out treason.
And that's the Bush legacy.

TREASON!
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