PNAC No More?

[laststeamtrain]

PNAC No More?

The website of the Bill Kristol’s Project for the New American Century (www.newamericancentury.org) has vanished. If you go to the site, you are diverted to another one that says, “This Account Has Been Suspended. Please contact the billing/support department as soon as possible.” A metaphor, perhaps, for the bankruptcy of the ideas that inspired the project and the strategic disaster that they produced for U.S. interests in Iraq, the greater Middle East, and the wider world?

You can still find most of PNAC’s documents — including its letters and their signatories — through www.archive.org, but it seems that the original site is gone for lack of payment. While the site became effectively dormant in 2005, its sudden disappearance is somewhat alarming. What does it say about the new American Century itself, particularly in light of the slew of recent books on the decline of American power and the end of unipolarity? A coincidence or an augury?...http://www.ips.org/blog/jimlobe/?p=145
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Hey, Kristol, pay your damn bill. Don't be a thief. Everybody knows you ain't no Jean Valjean.

[boobooday]

1. You just made my day

:bounce:

:toast:

[Mist]

2. Those who belong to the "party of financial responsibility" seem incapable of

paying their bills on time.

[Submariner]

3. Next DU Mission: Make the "RNC" website disappear

A country without repukes, what a nice thought.

[madokie]

4. I believe I remember a while back that they've changed the name

can't remember what it was though but these guys haven't disbanded or changed. Only the name has changed is what the report I read on this subject said. again best I can remember

[Perry Logan]

5. Neocons are like pimples...

...always popping up again.

[Amonester]

9. or like viRuses

mutants who become more dangerous to life on earth as time goes by

[Echo In Light]

7. Yes. Someone sourced a comprehensive article on that group's new name

Like you, however, I don't recall it...

[elizfeelinggreat]

10. Could it have been the Henry Jackson Society?

I think that group was started as the PNAC wound down and it's associated with neocons.

[laststeamtrain]

11. Ah. Slick. Name themselves after a Dem. Looking for a new host body.

Parasites.

[muriel_volestrangler]

14. Sort of. The HJS is British, but a lot of PNAC members were 'international patrons'

http://www.henryjacksonsociety.org/content.asp?pageid=37

But it's mainly a bunch of British academics (starting at Peterhouse, Cambridge - a very conservative college in the university) trying to keep up Blair's line of 'liberal interventionism' by writing a series of editorials and papers. They seemed to use the American names to get themselves some publicity at the start, but they don't seem to have been involved, lately.

[laststeamtrain]

18. Oh, OK. I guess 'Scoop' was beloved among imperialists everywhere.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_M._Jackson

[arcadian]

19. Committee on the Present Danger

is where you will find some of them

http://www.committeeonthepresentdanger.org/OurMembers/tabid/364/Default.aspx

[magellan]

15. The Foundation for the Defense of Democracies is where you'll find neocons hiding now

http://www.defenddemocracy.org/

They're lambasting Obama for taking offense to Bush**'s insult in Israel, currently. Just don't call them liars or traitors, they might cry. (Hm, that seems to be a changing front page story, now it's about Hezbollah.)

Anyway, check the Biographies page for the old PNAC crew. Kirkpatrick, Kemp, Woolsey, Lieberman, Miller, Gaffney, Krauthammer, Kristol....

[annabanana]

20. THERE THEY ARE..THE FUCKERS !!

Everyone remember FDD. (memnonic "Fudd")

We will follow them wherever they go.

[magellan]

22. They rebrand themselves but sell the same traitorous crap

The ONLY way to deal with the neocons is to prosecute and jail them for their crimes. Else they'll just keep manipulating the ship of state from behind a new curtain.

[nichomachus]

23. With the addition of Holy Joe Lieberman

[magellan]

24. Birds of a feather... n/t

[Echo In Light]

25. Thanks for sourcing this

[Ganja Ninja]

6. The website may be gone but the assholes behind it are still

on the loose and have yet to be held accountable.

[Breeze54]

8. It's all been saved here--->

;)

Welcome to PNAC.info-

http://pnac.info/index.php/2003/bush-planned-iraq-regime-change-before-becoming-president/

- a site dedicated to drawing attention to the neoconservative foreign
policy approach, and its consequences for America and the world.

[THX1138]

12. Hmmmm

Does this mean the domain name is available?

[THX1138]

13. Unfortunately not

Looks like Willy registered this domain all by himself:

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Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:C5950342-RCOM
Registrant Name:William Kristol
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[Wizard777]

16. They have reorganized as the Mc Cain Campaign.

[calimary]

17. Either that or maybe they've gone WAY underground. Stealth. Regrouped. Ready to

rise again when they think enough of us aren't paying attention anymore. I suspect that's what's up here. They AREN'T going away. They're not giving up and packing it in this soon. Especially when they got this close. Maybe they've just decided to go underground for awhile and regroup, or redeploy. :scared: Perhaps it's because they've become genuinely concerned that another republi-CON will NOT be able to keep the Oval Office for them, and that they're going to have to make some additional or perhaps reconfigured plans. :scared: God only knows what. :scared:

WHATEVER it is that they're up to, you can take it to the bank that they're STILL up to something, and whatever it is, it's no good.

These guys are slippery snakes. They HAVE to be watched. CONSTANTLY. We drop our vigilance at our peril. We HAVE TO keep track of these people.

[annabanana]

21. Not all that far underground..

Psst.. Hey you sonsabitches... We can still SEE YOU

http://www.defenddemocracy.org/
(biographies)