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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:22 PM
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Kissinger: Withdrawing from Iraq could radicalize the vast Islamic community in India

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/6d4b5fb8-285a-11dd-8f1e-000077b07658.html

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He believes the military “surge” is working and says the next question is when to start to move away from an exclusively military option. “This is not a war of states,” Kissinger says. “If we withdraw from Iraq, the radical elements in all the neighbouring Arab countries will be greatly encouraged.” We will, he fears, be unable to maintain ourselves in Afghanistan, or to retain our present position in Pakistan.

He fears a rapid withdrawal could radicalise the vast Islamic community in India. I am fascinated by this statement – I have never heard anyone else say it so robustly – and suggest that he argued in a similar vein about the dangers of a departure from Vietnam. “Not at all,” he says, adding that the collapse in Vietnam was partly compensated for by the almost simultaneous and fortuitous disintegration of the Soviet Union.

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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:22 PM
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1. Whatvever he says, do the opposite.
:)
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:23 PM
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2. Exactly.
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:24 PM
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4. Seriously, what a jackass this guy n/t
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:34 PM
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14. word
:thumbsup:
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:56 PM
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22. Got that right, worst SoS in history (n/t)
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 01:01 PM
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24. Condi's giving him a run for that title.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 02:17 PM
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34. I have a hard time actually considering Condi a SoS considering her
primary responsibility is essentially to do nothing. Just tow the party line and make sure nothing really changes. She is more of a place holder for B*sh.

Kissinger on the other hand may be the biggest bullsh*t shoveler of the 20th century. B*sh probably has the 21st century locked up.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 02:12 PM
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33. A failure AND a war criminal. nt
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:24 PM
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3. F You Kissinger
You should have been in prison years ago....
:grr: :grr:

:hi:
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:25 PM
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5. there is no lie kissinger wont happily tell. what soul-less monster.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 01:06 PM
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27. how do these thugs manage to walk around so freely.
he should have been locked up along time ago. It just never stops, these people have been and still are out of control, and they all need to be reined in. Sick SOB's. We are creating more terrorists. Mission accomplished for * and Cheney, these are criminals.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:25 PM
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6. Kissinger: How can I say things that will help fuck parts of the world I haven't fucked yet?
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:25 PM
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7. STFU Henry, i live to see the day your war criminal ass is at the Hague and when you die
i'll be checking the casket to make sure you're really in there.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:49 PM
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18. or, as in "charade", sticking a pin in him to make sure he has expired.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:26 PM
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8. Wow. The domino theory taken to the extreme.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:28 PM
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9. The countries would topple like dominoes
Pardon me, but I think this is where I came in . . . . .
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:29 PM
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10. "No one must know I dropped my glasses in the toilet" nt
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:31 PM
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11. Freakin' war criminal!
Hopefully (against hope) no one listens to this neocon murderer!
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:32 PM
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12. Hmm, I know some of the "vast Islamic community",
seeing as my Order's founder was from there, and we still have ties to Delhi and Hydrabad. None of the Sufis I know from that neck of the woods are talking about the need to do anything but live in peace with everyone.
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Glorfindel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:34 PM
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13. 1975 and 1991 are "almost....simultaneous"?
Fascinating, truly fascinating; and the disintegration of the Soviet Union was an unforseen accident?I think Kissinger has listened to his own bullshit too long.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:37 PM
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15. a call from the open ward--take a look at Viet Nam, kissy
same old war mongering song--war with no end.....
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:47 PM
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16. And if we stay, they will also be radicalized.
We should not have gone in in the first place. Hussein had horrible faults, but he kept the radicals in Iraq in check. If it is the radicals we are worried about, we should have put up with Hussein and given refuge to those of his victims who could manage to get out. That would have allowed us to help and to make allies in the area.
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:48 PM
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17. Kissinger is one of the most vile creatures walking the earth


if it comes out of his fat mouth it's by definition shit.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:50 PM
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19. hey, henry, when was the last time you were anywhere overseas? isn't it
true that there are a lot of govts waiting to arrest your murderous, war-mongering ass?

maybe we could take up a collection and fly him somewhere?
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:52 PM
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20. Remember CHINA, not Russia was the BIG DOG in this fight?? did China fail? opps guess not?
then were ARE those dominoes???

Found an interesting article regarding kissinger and vietnam vs iraq:

Henry Kissinger is arguing that the Vietnam War taught us the perils of military withdrawal. But the true lesson of the Vietnam War is that the continuing presence of U.S. troops will only compound the tragedy in Iraq and the region -- and that Kissinger's own partisan criticism of legitimate dissent will aggravate national disunity in the United States.

Here is the link to the article: http://www.niemanwatchdog.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=background.view&backgroundid=00189

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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:53 PM
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21. Now I've seen everything
:spray:

Does anyone listen to these old corpses anymore?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:58 PM
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23. the press helps to legitimize that piece of shit each time they give him any space
and they do nothing to inform people of just what kind of criminal piece of shit he is

Fuck Kissinger.....fuck those who enable his lying ass....and fuck those who won't allow him to be extradited
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 01:14 PM
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28. again the media is just playing along and covering up for this
yet another Bushie completing and executing the neo con agenda. And does not give a crap about the American people, "my friends" shit, how many would like to have a beer with him? Disgusting how far we have reached the bottom.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 01:02 PM
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25. Why isn't this guy sharing a cell with Rove?
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 01:06 PM
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26. Doesn't he have a pressing engagement?
With some earthworms to make compost?
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 01:48 PM
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29. Kissinger, you've already done too much harm to America.
Please shut up and get off the public stage.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 01:51 PM
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30. Withdrawing from Iraq could cause
monkeys to fly from Kissinger's ass too, but probably wont.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 01:59 PM
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31. Advice from a War Criminal..... What Trustworthy Advice!!!!
:sarcasm:
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 02:03 PM
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32. So Henry's saying the entire Reagan arms buildup was based on outdated and erroneous assumptions?
"Collapse of Vietnam...almost simultaneous ...disintegration of the Soviet Union"?

So the entire Reagan arms buildup was based on outdated and erroneous assumptions?

And the collapse of the SU was in progress even as St. Ron _entered_ office, so it's not as if he were responsible for its demise?

Thanks for coming out and saying so in such a timely fashion, HK!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 02:22 PM
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35. Why doesn't this old war criminal just
die. Geez these war criminals live forever.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 02:35 PM
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36. Once again, the walking dead has it exactly ass backwards....
There must be some funny stuff in the virgin's blood he's been drinking.
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 03:23 PM
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37. Anyone stupid enough to listen to Kissinger ought to be barred from holding office.
We should turn the son-of-a-bitch over to the Hague and have done with it.
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