Auschwitz-Buchenwald is one place. not two different ones. Tweety should do his homework.

[Mira]

All my growing up life, in post war Germany, Auschwitz-Buchenwald was hyphenated and referred to as one extended concentration camp.
Tweety is on his show with a group of talking heads, and they are taking apart Senator Obama for having calling Auschwitz Buchenwald. Giving him grief over not knowing the details properly. Obama was referring to, I believe, an uncle who was there.

It is those blowhards who don't know. And here again they are creating a diversion from the real story at hand.
I could just scream.

[Zywiec]

1. There are two camps. n/t

[Mira]

4. Do you know how far apart they are? I know they are referred to hyphenated.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

6. A couple hundred miles.

And two fronts.

[Mira]

8. What a Map to have to see. I lived close to Dachau, went there several times

[derby378]

2. It's called Auschwitz-BIRKNEAU

Trust me, I've been reading up on this since high school.

[Bicoastal]

3. Actually, you're probably thinking of Asuchwitz-Birkenau.

I'm willing to believe that Obama slipped up and said the wrong concentration camp. It doesn't negate the entire premise of a family member liberating one, as some are supposing.

[Mira]

5. Bingo - my bad. I was so irate I "misremembered". Thanks

It really is Auschwitz - Birkenau

[malaise]

11. That simple

His great uncle was involved in the liberation.

[Wizard777]

14. Correct and "Auschwitz" can refer to as many as 43 camps."

There was Auschwitz I or simply Auschwitz. Birkenau was Auschwitz II. Monowitz was Auchwitz III. There were 40 other smaller satalite camps that were also refered to as Auschwitz. Auschwitz was a SYSTEM of Nazi labor and death camps.

[bill for obama]

15. You are a history student.

[Wizard777]

16. Not really. I'm just an old man. That occured within my lifetime.

So I consider it more of a matter of memory than history. I do have a deep interest in ancient history. Especially concerning the Persian Empire. That I consider history. Because I'm old. But I'm not THAT old. LOL!

I think one of the scariest things I've ever done in my life was reading Mien Kampf. Endevoring to see Nazi Germany through the eyes of Adolph Hitler. To try to understand what could take a mortal man and turn him into a monster of that magnitude. It was unbridled and absolute power that facillitated the transformation. Now I have watched Bush and the Republicans run down that exact same path. Now Mien Kampf is scarier than ever before. Because now the monster is in the peoples house. The monster is in the White House. Will he surrender power or overthrow the Kieser? :scared:

[bill for obama]

17. Funny -

Oh - and I think you are a history student - intended or not. Sometimes maybe just being alive long enough entitles you.

You know there was a sequel to Mein Kampf - very very scary. I think released about 6 years ago?? He (Hitler) understood well (and therefore withheld publishing) - if there was a war - he had to come after us - he had no choice. The war - the real war - had to be launched against us - but FDR - he was too too smart.

Thank god for FDR!!!

It is very scary -

[Wizard777]

18. FDR was truly a great man. I just wish he didn't live in fear of people thinking he was weak.

Simply because of his handicap. I really think it was his handicap that made him the great man he was. They say handicaps will strengthen other aspects of a person. The strength of mind and character the physical weakness from his polio brought out in him were amazing.

If it wasn't for the Lame duck amendment. FDR would still be our President.

[bill for obama]

19. No - it is cause he died.

Otherwise - I think he would still be president - so to speak.

[Wizard777]

20. I look at it like this. The republicans really admire our dedication to voting.

Because I always her them saying, "not even death will stop a democrat from voting." So why should that stop FDR from running for President?

:shrug:

[bill for obama]

24. Hmm

[Herman74]

7. It seems that Barack Obama made a mistake

Auschwitz-Birkenau was liberated by the Soviets. Buchenwald was liberated by American forces. Presumably, his (grand-)uncle or some other relative was with the American forces liberating Buchenwald (or maybe some other concentration camp).

[MidwestTransplant]

9. OMG THIS IS HORRIBLE. THERE GOES THE ELECTION.

What I want to know is why this is even worth talking about when it turns out he just misnamed the camp his great uncle liberated.

[Skittles]

22. it isn't

the bots on both sides make an issue out of a non-issue

[bill for obama]

10. Oh - he is technically right I suppose.

Obama's family member wasn't really "at" Buchenwald either I suppose. He is in 1st army group though if he was 89th - so he did liberate, or help to liberate, one of the camps surrounding Buchenwald. It was NOT just one camp - it was spread out. And if Matthews doesn't know at least that - he should not open his mouth!

One other thing - Dachau and Buchenwald were supposedly not death camps, not originally - Auschwitz was always a death camp. But the fact is - they were ALL death camps in 1945! And they were liberated by Americans - one after the other. Days apart.

You make a good post you know.

Isn't the question, maybe - what was "Admiral Mccain" doing when those really brave GIs were liberating those camps - where was he??

It so bothers me - just how dangerous it was for those young boys to charge into those camps and do what they did to help those people - and I know - more than a few officers so looked down their noses at what those brave kids did - at the camps and throughout the war. Pisses me off.

Germany really -in the end - was one big camp - and those boys, which is what they were, that marched in without fear and did what they did - were great heros.

Matthews needs to take remedial history!

[Mira]

12. They taught me my first English words, I was two. I loved American soldiers.

They were the good guys, always laughing and giving me a little something, and teaching me an English word or two.
I sometimes all but cry, when I see pictures of our soldiers now storming and raiding homes in Iraq, breaking open doors.
It was so the opposite in 1945.

[bill for obama]

13. Actually - you just made me cry -

I can't believe this is happening - not to my America.

We ARE the good guys - what did they do to us???

SO sad.

[Thothmes]

23. Auschwitz

was the labor complex. Birkenau was the death camp across the tracks from Auschwitz. Admiral McCain, commanded a submarine during WWII. Damaged a freighter and sank a couple of patrol boats. Was depth charged on occassion.

[bill for obama]

25. Accross the tracks??

What tracks??

[Skittles]

21. wrong

try googling