Chicago Fox News Poll: Should Fuckhead Pardon Dirty Ex Repuke Governor

[orleans]

of illinois?

http://www.myfoxchicago.com/myfox/

please vote.

this bastard is finally in jail. and another ex gov of IL (another republicon) is going to beg the fuckhead in the white house to pardon R. george ryan.

[saigon68]

1. That way he can be Rick Hendrick

The Nascar Felon who had Bro Hugh approach the Big Dog for a Pardon

[davidinalameda]

2. a handful of people actually voted yes

dumb asses

[mucifer]

3. Ryan is no george bush. He put a moritorium on the IL death penalty.

Yes, he has done slimy and illegal stuff and should go to jail. But, I think people should know about the death penalty stuff.

BTW some African American men were tortured into confessing for murders they didn't commit and this is why Ryan signed the moritorium. There was a huge expose in the liberal rag The Chicago Tribune;

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-991117deathillinois4,1,1948043.story

Forty-three hours after Stanley Howard was arrested, Chicago police detectives got the evidence that would help them send Howard to Death Row: a confession.

In seven double-spaced pages of questions and answers transcribed by a court reporter on Nov. 3, 1984, Howard implicated himself in the murder of a 42-year-old man that May. Then Howard signed the confession.

Moments later, Howard began to make what would become years of claims that police had tortured him to get the confession. Officers, he said, had kicked him, punched him and placed a plastic typewriter cover over his head--and Howard was able to produce medical reports supporting his allegations.

Still, faced with denials from the detectives, a Cook County judge refused to throw out the confession, and in 1987, a jury convicted Howard and condemned him to die...

[orleans]

4. let's not turn him into a fucking saint

he did a great thing with the moritorium--but how many other people's deaths is he responsible for? he is a fucking bastard. and he got off easy.

Pallmeyer sentenced convicted former Republican Gov. George Ryan on Wednesday, and his sidekick, Larry Warner, to embarrassingly light sentences.

They begged for mercy, blubbering, hiding behind their wives and children, something a 51st Street gangster wouldn't do.


Her sentences were so light, 61/2 years for George and 31/2 years for Larry,

-snip-


She bought the defense line that the one Illinois politician who most resembles the hearty Beefeater on the gin bottles is a "complicated man."

Ryan is as complicated as butt steak and eggs at 4 a.m. after a long night at the casinos with Warner, on that $140 or so Ryan apparently lived on for an entire year while partying like a sultan. He's as complicated as a man can be while squeezing his janitors and secretaries for Christmas cash.

As complicated as any guy who can leverage leases of government buildings so his buddy Warner could skate with almost $4 million.

As complicated as a man who's been told that a truck driver involved in a crash that killed six children paid a bribe for his license. So the first thing the complicated man did was to quash the investigation and then lie about it and get himself elected governor on that lie.

That's complicated. And evil.

To call Ryan complicated, and use it to offer him mercy when, even on sentencing day, he refused to apologize for his crimes is an insult. That does more to promote cynicism than the sight of Big Jim Thompson showing up in the hallway outside the courtroom, confident, the former prosecutor and governor smirking, chomping gum.

Judge Pallmeyer must believe in the potential goodness of all people.

But she didn't hear Ryan laughing in the washroom after she imposed her light sentence, Ryan joking with his buddy Big Jim.

"Wonder what Webb is going to say to the media," Ryan said, chuckling, spry enough in his allegedly weakened and infirm state that he bent quickly, like a portly gymnast in hard shoes, to see if anyone was hiding in a stall.

A young reporter who was dressed in a nice suit--and so didn't look like a young reporter but more like an attorney--wanted to use the facilities.

"Got a ticket?" wisecracked Ryan, smiling, hearty, apparently crushed by the tough sentence he might not ever serve.

A few minutes earlier, though, he was seeking mercy, speechifying, oozing contrition without ever offering a real apology, just like a politician. He even used his deep George Ryan political voice.

The people of Illinois, Ryan said, "expected better and I let them down and for that I apologize. My failures will never leave my mind as long as I live. ... I should have been more vigilant."

He meant he should have been more careful. But there was no apology to the Willis family, sitting nearby, for his order to cut off the investigation of the license-for-bribes scheme that helped lead to the crash that killed their six children.

For that alone, he should have received 10 years, the sentence that was requested by the federal prosecutors.

-more-
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-0609070164sep07,1,4144599.column

[mucifer]

5. I said in my post he should go to jail. I never called him a saint.

But, I do think people should know about the death penalty in IL and what Ryan did.

[kas125]

14. No matter what he did about the death penalty, he shares responsiblity

for the deaths of those babies in that van. He should spend the rest of his life in prison, period.

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

17. I don't normally agree with John Kass on anything, but in

this column he's right on the money.

I honestly can't decide who is the bigger a**hole, "Big" Jim Thompson or George Ryan. They're both very good candidates. Add to that Dan Webb, the former US Attorney, who defended Ryan and worked pro bono for Ryan with the blessings of his and Big Jim's law firm, Winston & Strawn.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Chucklenuts decides to pardon Ryan. He doesn't give a shit about anyone anyway except himself. It's obvious that Ryan and Big Jim feel the same way.

[ProfessorGAC]

18. No Need To Decide moh

You can loathe both Thompson and Ryan at the same time! They both deserve it. They're both crooks. The only difference is one of them got caught, and the other didn't.
The Professor

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

20. I do loathe them both and Jim Edgar as well.... n/t

[ProfessorGAC]

21. Crooks Of A Feather

Just like the mobsters of the 20's. These guys are the Capone gang with fountain pens instead of tommyguns.
The Professor

[global1]

10. Didn't He Get On The Moritorium Band Wagon After He Knew He Was.......

in trouble and might go to jail himself?

[tritsofme]

11. It looked like he might be deep trouble from the early days of his administration.

The corruption he was convicted for happened during his days as Secretary of State IIRC.

[davidinalameda]

15. the man is a criminal

and didn't he put the brakes on the death penalty after he was indicted?

[Freddie Stubbs]

19. Ryan signed the moratorium after it became apparent he was going to jail

I guess he figured he would be less likely to get shanked if he seem sympathetic to convicts.

[tritsofme]

6. There is no love for George Ryan among the circles Bush travels in.

He commuted all those death sentences, was pro-choice, ect.

I think there is a higher chance we will soon see Blago begging President Obama to pardon him.

[orleans]

7. i doubt it. n/t

[tritsofme]

8. You doubt what? That Blago will soon be walking down the same path as his predecessor

or that Bush won't pardon Ryan?

[orleans]

12. neither

tritsofme: "I think there is a higher chance we will soon see Blago begging President Obama to pardon him."
orleans: i doubt it.

[tritsofme]

13. Well those are a few things I'm looking forward to in the next few years.

A Democrat in the White House and Rod Blagojevich in federal prison.

[lonestarnot]

9. Right is getting trounced. A sign of what is to come! Tee hee!

[mucifer]

16. we soon will have to have an official governor's wing to the state prison.

BTW as a prisoner's right activist I do have some respect for what Ryan did with the moratorium.

The people who were tortured into confessions by john burdge have rights, too. We should not forget what he did. Ryan could have decided to be another george bush on the death penalty issue.

I am very sad about what happened to the Willis family. Ryan should serve time for that.