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El Pinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:26 AM
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Poll question: Who represents "centrist" in the United States?
Which of these personalities best represents a "centrist" viewpoint in the United States?
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 01:02 AM
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1. Maybe Chafee;
but he no longer 'represents' anyone, right?
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El Pinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 01:21 AM
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2. I merely posed the question because what represents the "center" of the US spectrum...
...still seems so right-wing and reactionary that calling any of these people "centrist" leaves a bad taste in my mouth, since centrist almost always is equated with moderation, common-sense, cooperation, etc.

When I think of a "centrist" I think of someone who falls between the extremes of fascism and communism - someone like a Ted Kennedy or a Barbara Boxer.

These figures are all so friendly to the military-expansionist, pro-corporate worldview that it's really hard for me to ever consider any of them truly "centrist", even if they do fall in the middle of the US political spectrum which runs from centrist democrat to the extremist ultra-right-wing GOP privatizers.
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zeos3 Donating Member (912 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 01:33 AM
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3. I agree
All we hear about, though, is the liberal this the liberal that, the far left, etc. The political dialog has shifted to the right in this country yet we hear how both of our candidates are so "liberal".
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 01:43 PM
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10. We could write pages and pages about this stuff,
Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 01:45 PM by elleng
and continue to discuss and disagree.

You seem to focus on 'economic' issues, and to leave 'social' issues elsewhere. That's another book, of course! As to 'military-expansionist, pro-corporate,' that's PNACers, IMO, and probably doesn't include any on your list.

O'Reilly is just a jerk, and russert and matthews mouthpieces with no related minds.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 01:44 AM
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4. In the US, the center is pretty far right compared to globally. Look here.
Compare Bush to world leaders:



Now, look at where Stalin and Hitler were:



Now, look at candidates in the American primaries:



http://www.politicalcompass.org/usprimaries2008
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El Pinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 01:49 AM
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6. Ron Paul seems to be to the right of Bush...
...interesting. the fact that his cult continues to grow is yet another testament to how far right our nation's mentality has slid.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 01:53 AM
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7. Yeah, he's more of the Milton Friedman neoliberal. Bush is more corporate-oriented.
The difference between the two being Friedman neoliberals oppose the kind of corporate subsidies that corporatists usually support for their constituent business interests, but ultimately, both are united in opposition to labor and leftism in general.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 01:47 AM
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5. Seems like you look for the center on an issue by issue basis.
The greater a majority in agreement constitutes the center.

The political spectrum is something of a bell curve.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 01:54 AM
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8. I love DU.
All those people do seem mostly to the right to me, too.
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livvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:06 AM
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9. Gee...no wonder I have so much "trouble" with politicians. LOL


They almost ran out of quadrant space to get my red dot on there. :rofl:
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