LSK
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Mon Jun-02-08 02:47 PM
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what is it going to take to get the NeoCons out of the public once and for all??? |
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Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 02:48 PM by LSK
They have been consistantly WRONG about EVERYTHING from Iraq to the War on Terror and to even the threat of the Soviet Union in the 70s.
WHY ON EARTH DO THEY KEEP ON BEING INVITED TO SPEECHES, TV, CONFERENCES, OP-EDS, ETC ETC????????????????
Kristol, Wolfowitz, Rummy, Cheney, Feith and the rest of them have been consistantly WRONG.
Yet they are still on the TV everywhere now spouting off lies and propaganda about Iran!!!
They have the gall to suggest that Obama doesnt know anything about the middle east when THEIR POLICIES HAVE FUCKED IT UP SO ROYALLY!!!!
I am so fucking sick of these liars.
What will it take to SHUT THEM THE HELL UP?!?!?!
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Mon Jun-02-08 02:49 PM
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1. Send Them to the Hague! That Ought to Do It |
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Mon Jun-02-08 04:53 PM
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21. Hey, there's ol Ashcroft! |
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Personal favorite neo-con moment(s): Let the Mighty Eagle Soar! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW2cPr0fQ7YSigh. Good times.:rofl: (To answer the OP's question, actual punishment for their actions would be helpful. Not holding my breath, though.)
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Mon Jun-02-08 02:49 PM
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2. dismantle the conservative think tanks |
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AEI, Heritage, etc. lend scholarly credence to Feith, Wolfowitz et al. given their bottomless funding, they're not going away anytime soon.
another option would be to restore the fairness doctrine.
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LSK
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Mon Jun-02-08 03:04 PM
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13. fairness doctrine didnt stop them in the 70s and 80s |
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when they convinced people that the Soviet Union was determined to take over the world.
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Mon Jun-02-08 03:07 PM
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i never felt like nuclear war was immanent back then. but were those THESE "neo-cons", specifially the PNAC signers, Leo Strauss graduate students?
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Mon Jun-02-08 03:11 PM
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15. yes, these are the same people, google Team B |
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Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 03:12 PM by LSK
These are the same people. Cheney, Rummy, Wolfowitz. Same gang of people who are ALWAYS WRONG. See the documentary Power of Nightmares. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x141369
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Mon Jun-02-08 02:50 PM
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3. When Americans finally wake up the reality that we are no longer |
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an Empire they will be blamed for it
Pitchforks come to mind for some reason
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Mon Jun-02-08 02:56 PM
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7. A stake through each of their hearts, at a crossroads, during a full moon. |
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Mon Jun-02-08 02:51 PM
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4. Real campaign finance reform and then voting out every Democrat and Repubilcan in power right now. |
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Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 02:51 PM by ryanmuegge
Particularly the Republicans.
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Mon Jun-02-08 02:53 PM
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5. IMPEACHMENT will shut them up. |
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The Democrats need to grow a pair of balls and reveal the dirty deeds, crimes, cronyism, corruption, etc., of the neocons. Air the dirty laundry in public for ALL to see. ALL OF IT. Leave nothing out. Yes, a few Dems will go down as well once everything is exposed.
The only way to stop it once and for all is to expose every disgusting detail to the public, prosecute and imprison EVERYONE.
Once ALL AMERICANS see first hand how we've been lied to, taken advantage of, and to what degree both of those have been done, the public outcry will be so loud no one will escape it.
Perhaps then Americans will realize what we've given up, and then who knows we might even demand accountability and transparency from our elected officials. And, most of us might even get out and vote, for a change.
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Mon Jun-02-08 02:55 PM
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6. A War Crimes tribunal in |
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Mon Jun-02-08 02:59 PM
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8. They will be around for a while |
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They have a lot of money behind them, and a lot of people on their side.
What I hope for is marginalization.
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Mon Jun-02-08 03:01 PM
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9. Lot's of hearings in unbiased courts of law. |
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Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 03:01 PM by Cleita
Congress should be investigating them as set out in the Constitution but our wimpy leadership isn't letting Conyer, Waxman and others do their job, so it will be up to prosecutors to bring investigations to the courts as set out by Vincent Bugliosi. Once we wring the truth out of them under oath, you will see the Republican Party become as popular as the Nazi Party in post war Germany. Those who do not end up in prison will have to go back under the rocks they came out from.
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Mon Jun-02-08 03:03 PM
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12. We will see trials, in our lifetime |
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we will see them...
THough NOT necessarily in the US
We are no longer a superpower and the world has many ways to skin this cat
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Mon Jun-02-08 03:13 PM
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16. I hope you are right. |
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I hope other nations unite in bringing these criminals to justice if we can't do it ourselves.
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Mon Jun-02-08 03:17 PM
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17. The leading edge is already in place |
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so I trust we will see it....
The first attempts to file in other countries are just the beginning
These folks better not travel... and with enough pressure we will have to tun them over
Best case, we will have impeachment and conviction after they leave, and a turn over to the authorities.
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Mon Jun-02-08 03:02 PM
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10. They are powerful because they are wealthy. They own the media and thus the message. |
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Americans will not wake up to the truth because not enough people have been hurt (or even inconvenienced) by their actions. The bad things happen to other people (who probably deserve it anyway in their "minds"). If people think that $4 or $5 gas will light the fuse, they are mistaken. We complained at $1.00 and $2.00 and $3.00 too. As with Vietnam, only many thousands of dead children coming back to America will shake up the population enough to end the war. But even that will not cause a seismic shift in the politics and values of this country. Not until they are totally removed from the scene will their influence end. And they will fight with everything they have to hold on to power.
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Mon Jun-02-08 03:21 PM
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18. Fuel will actually be part of it, but NOT at 4 bucks |
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we will need six to seven dollars a gallon
That will hurt ENOUGH people.
Me... making changes already
And troops, I hate to say this, but most muricans don't care since there is no actual threat to them (read draft), though after we attack Iran that may come back.
But if there is no draft, most muricans don't care about the troops... they volunteered you see... so I got mine
Healthcare will be part of the formula as well as the inevitable end of the age of oil
It will get ugly and people will (already are) get touched in personal ways... but that is just starting
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Mon Jun-02-08 03:02 PM
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11. Prison time would help. So would shutting off the TV when they appear. |
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Mon Jun-02-08 03:22 PM
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19. George Lakoff has some suggestions... |
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Mon Jun-02-08 03:23 PM
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20. Draft them and send them to IRAQ |
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Well hey I know we don't have a draft, I can still wish can't ?
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Mon Jun-02-08 04:55 PM
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22. Take back the airwaves |
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No more corporate consolidation! We the citizens should own them - not the corporations.
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Mon Jun-02-08 05:17 PM
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on a massive scale through solidly truthful information.
In other words, media reform and systematic debunking of CIA psy ops.
Tall order, eh?
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Mon Jun-02-08 06:34 PM
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24. What's it gunna take? ................ prison |
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Mon Jun-02-08 06:43 PM
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25. Things have to get bad enough for enough people, we're not there yet. |
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Major recession would help, but there will still be those who vote for them out of fear that "it might've been worse". Famine, disease, war, death. Those 4 horsemen have to be riding and no, we're not there yet.
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Mon Jun-02-08 06:55 PM
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26. Same thing that it took to get the nazis out of power in germany I fear. |
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Mon Jun-02-08 06:55 PM
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27. OPEN THE GAWDDAM BOOKS on all of it, especially BCCI. That should curl some hair of the citizenry. |
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Mon Jun-02-08 07:15 PM
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Hopefully the next administration will have a DOJ that gets to the bottom of it.
America needs to put Neoconservatism in the same level of disgrace that Europe did with Fascism and Nazism. An evil ideology that is all about power and death.
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Tue Jun-03-08 03:05 PM
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29. Sounds like some people here want annihilation |
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The anger runs too deep. Honnestly, there is really not much anyone can do. Very sad.
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