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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:40 PM
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How can we get Al Gore to apologize for picking Lieberman as VP
Edited on Fri Jun-06-08 12:40 PM by Juche
Didn't a newspaper in CT apologize for endorsing Lieberman? Is there any way to get Al Gore to openly apologize for picking Lieberman as his VP in 2000? That'd be a great way to defuse him now that he is working for the GOP.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:45 PM
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1. People change. These past eight years have been a downfall of change in Lieberman.
At the time of his decision, I'd like to think that ol' Joe was a different man.

How he can befriend the party that stole what was rightfully his just leaves me completely gobsmacked.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:47 PM
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4. He's doing it because he smells gold
I think he wants to be McCain's running mate. Joe never seems to waiver- he stands where he is most likely to gain.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 11:40 PM
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29. our presidential nominee endorsed him just two years ago
he hasn't changed since then
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:46 PM
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2. I don't think he'd do that, that is not Al Gore's style.
he's a gentleman.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:47 PM
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3. The DLC was behind Lieberman being picked
Al Gore was threatened with withdrawal of DLC support unless he allowed the DLC to pick the running mate. Or so that is how I heard the story.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:48 PM
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6. What could we accomplish without the DLC tripping us up?
I'll keep asking that when people repeat the Mantra of "we need them"

We need them like a hole in the head.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:52 PM
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8. In retrospect...
...sometimes I wonder if the DLC leadership isn't in the habit of actually working on behalf of the other side whenever it seems that their corporate contributors won't benefit from the Democratic representation.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:59 PM
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9. How many times was Kerry's campaign undermined
and facts proved it wasn't GOPers doing it? Who else could be behind it doyathink?

Corporate elite watching out for its own.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 01:03 PM
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10. Stop wondering. You've got it.
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joanski0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:56 PM
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22. I've assumed all along that the DLC made Gore
pick Lieberman. I also believe that the DLC told him not to run again in 2004 because they wouldn't support him.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:48 PM
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5. Why?
Better question: why do some keep harping on this?
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 01:12 PM
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11. Because Joe Lieberman is a scab on our party...
...at least a scab on MY party.:eyes:
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 01:45 PM
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15. You're independent?
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 10:07 PM
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23. I'm a liberal Democrat...
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 04:39 AM
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32. That makes no sense....
...you said Joe is a "scab on our party." He is no longer a democrat, though he does still have his liberal moments, though far and few between.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 05:03 AM
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33. His party registration papers say otherwise. He is a registered Democrat.
He does not, however, get the privilege of representing the Connecticut Democratic Party. That fell on Ned Lamont. It's why he kept saying that he is an "independent" Democrat, simply because the party chose someone else, so he ran as an Independent to circumvent the primary process.

He is a fool of a man.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 01:23 PM
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39. "He is a fool of a man."
I would agree.

I am very familiar with your postings and I know the level of your intelligence. You know why I posted what I did.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 08:12 AM
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35. He caucuses with the Dems...
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 01:21 PM
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38. "Caucuses with"
And despite his still being registered, according to another DU'er, as a Democrat, the vast majority of DU, myself included, have him squarely in the Independent column. The only time you and others like you wish to see him with the (D) behind his name is when you are screeching about how horrible of a person he is, a traitor to this country, an agent for another country, or some other stupid shit.

He has made himself a joke! Once the balance of power changes to Dems, he will be out the door. But, the premise of this thread was about how Gore should apologize for choosing him. The sad thing is that many folks here are so mired in hate, they don't even stop to think he wasn't the same person 8 years ago. Some here as so fucking blinded by stupidity to realize he is still needed and, despite his idiotic war-hawk stance, he is not a conservative and is actually more liberal than some of the posters here!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:49 PM
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7. i'd just as soon forget the whole incident...
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 01:13 PM
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12. Gore is not responsible for Lieberman going insane
Lieberman overindulged himself with media attention and ego.

It's better to put pressure on Harry Reid and the Senate Dems to deny Lieberman his committee chairmanships next term after we gain enough seats to make Lieberman obsolete as a trouble maker.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 01:19 PM
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13. But what a smarmy fuck he was even back then
Horrible, horrible choice.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 01:26 PM
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14. So if Abraham Lincoln were alive today, would you ask him to apologize for choosing Andrew Johnson
as his VP?

The only thing I would ask Al Gore to apologize for his working to empower you to make stupid posts such as this one for all the world to see, but that's just me.

Oh yeah, welcome to D.U.:hi:
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:37 PM
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16. sounds like a really bad idea
Many Jewish voters were/are proud Lieberman was picked to represent to USA as vice president. I think many feel a swipe at Lieberman in that regard would be against the principals of the party. Just as apologizing for having Ferraro as a VP choice after some of the things she said this past year would be just as inappropriate.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:44 PM
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17. I think it's Lieberman who owes Gore and the rest of us an apology
He's a grown man who must be held accountable for his own actions. Gore isn't responsible for what Lieberman has become and he certainly wouldn't have picked him if he had a crystal ball on hand. Lieberman fooled us all.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:48 PM
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18. It would have the opposite effect you think--it would make Gore look bad. Liebrman needs
to apologize, period.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:48 PM
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19. Liebermann Was Historic
It's hard to see it after all the goofiness and shit Joementum has thrown the past two years, but in 2000 he was still very much considered within the "liberal" wing of the party. He was one of the few Democrats the corporate media seemed to like and he was a "moral authority" that Gore used to immunized himself from the Clinton scandals.

Also, Joe represented a major accomplishment for Jewish people...much in the way women see Hillary or Black view Barack Obama. It was reaching a plateau of the American experience that hadn't been reached before. My late father felt extreme pride in Lieberan's selection...he never thought he'd see a Jewish candidate in his 80 plus years. I also remember others feeling that a barrier had been broken...including several black friends of mine. No longer was a religion or race or sex to be a factor in who could or couldn't be President. While Geraldine Ferraro broke the "glass ceiling" for women in '84, many still saw being a woman or black or Jew or even Catholic as a handicap...this nomination showed that another barrier had been broken and more could and should happen.

Joe left the reservation over Iraq and became more a Likudnik than anything else. He got on the "A List" inside the beltway and confused being used by the booosh regime as some kind of vindication of his positions. He began to lose Democrats in his disaster of an '04 Presidential run. Some may not remember, but he was considered an early front-runner...but his war positions soon pushed him behind everyone else and Joementum took the attacks personally. Then came the Lamont challenge and that only seemed to make Joe lose it altogether. He had to turn to Rove to save his seat and his ego has all but turned him into a full assclown.

Joe's living on his final few minutes of fame...once Gramps goes down, Joe will be a man without a party...unless me immigrates to Israel.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:50 PM
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20. Why should he?
How was anyone to know that Lieberman would turn into such a crabby traiter?
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:51 PM
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21. Lieberman should apologize to Gore and Lamont. n/t
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 10:12 PM
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24. How can I make you apologize for being such a deliberate asswipe?
*giggle*

Oh,...I'm sorry,...I take it back.

You meant to be genuine. I'm sure.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 10:49 PM
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25. I don't think he has to apologize, but if I did, I'd say he's more than made it up to us
Edited on Sat Jun-07-08 10:50 PM by BlueIris
by now.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 11:00 PM
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26. He doesn't owe anyone a goddam thing.
Hope this helps.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 11:07 PM
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27. Gore doesn't owe anyone an apology. Lieberman owes Gore & the rest of the U.S. an apology
for lying about being a dem when he's really a rethug. :grr:
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 11:10 PM
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28. We all campaigned for him.
Let it go.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 11:50 PM
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 12:23 AM
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31. LOL
Oh, you are good..
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:03 AM
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34. I try not to be judgmental about this.
In 2000 I had no idea Lieberman would be such a traitor.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 08:16 AM
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36. What you think liarman speaks for Al.
Go fuck yourself.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:02 AM
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37. Dumbest. Idea. Ever. That is all. nt
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 01:28 PM
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40. Why are you worrying about this now?
I'm sure Gore knows Lieberman's current profile.
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 01:30 PM
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41. And we should
why? :shrug:
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