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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:13 AM
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Thirteen years ago today, my father was brutally murdered. (warning: possibly upsetting)
Edited on Mon Jun-09-08 10:39 AM by oktoberain
His name was James Allen Heinze, and he was a Vietnam veteran. He suffered PTSD all his life, and growing up, we were dirt poor, West-Virginia-trailer-park poor, the kind of poor that comes of a father who was too caught up in his own nightmares and fears to hold a steady job for long, and a mother who was torn between nearly suicidal despair and working twelve-hour days at a gas station to feed her three kids. Save for Food Stamps a couple of times when paychecks were particularly slim, we didn't get welfare. My parents grew up in proud-but-poor families that would have been appalled at the idea of "drinking the work sweat of the county", as my grandmother used to put it. Of course, this was back when factory and mine jobs were still plentiful, and the only jobless people were the most destitute cases--the disabled, the divorced mother, the restless wanderers.

By the time the Reagan 80's came around and the jobs started disappearing, my Dad's PTSD had become so intense that he was struggling to get enough sleep at night in order to function the next day at his job. He was a carpenter; a man with the brownest hands I've ever seen, a man who could work the miracle of making a home grow out of a pile of lumber, a few boxes of nails, and a pallet of shingles. I remember watching him with a hammer in his hand, his mouth full of nails, and a pack of Lucky Strikes rolled into the sleeve of his white t-shirt. He was like a god to me when I was six. I couldn't imagine anything more beautiful or more important to with your life than creating the homes that families live in. When he got home at night, six small feet would be scrambling to be the first to untie his big, steel-toed boots--and for good reason. The kid who got to take off Dad's boots also got first dibs at the treats he always brought home in his "dinner bucket." Zero, Payday, and Chunky candy bars were the most frequent goodies. Sometimes he'd have long Charleston Chew bars hidden in his jacket sleeve, ready to put in the freezer so he could break them into manageable pieces with his Scotti recoilless hammer.

I still carry that image of him in my heart, but it's not the whole story. The candy-bearing carpenter gave way, in the end, to the bedraggled alcoholic Veteran who used beer to sleep at night...and then to get through the humiliation of being jobless during the day. Still, I loved him. Even at his drunkest, even at his most irrational, he was never cruel. He never hit. He never drove while drunk. He never hurt anyone, save for himself.

He lived for his kids. I was the oldest, and I remember clearly the games Dad used to play with me. He'd gotten an unabridged dictionary from a library giveaway, an enormous tome of a book that was too heavy for anyone but him to handle with ease. He kept it on the living room table beside "his" chair, and every day when I'd walk in the door after school, he'd have a handful of new words to quiz me on. "Ah, Brandy Leigh," he'd say, "I've been waiting for you. Got some good ones today." He'd rattle off impossibly huge words, and I, being the naturally competitive person that I am, would take it as a personal challenge to "beat" him by correctly spelling and defining each word. I became somewhat obsessed with reading the dictionary in the evenings. In 8th grade I made it to the state finals of the national spelling bee competition, but when there were only seven competitors left out of 200, I missed on the word "piteous." I was brokenhearted. I thought he'd be upset with my loss, but he bought me a Dilly Bar at Dairy Queen on the way home, and told me to make sure I remembered that word forever. And I do. Piteous--arousing pity or compassion. I didn't see the deeper meaning behind those words at the time, for the same reason that people in Saigon can't see Vietnam.

During the 90's, we didn't have a car because we couldn't afford one. It was hard enough to pay for rent, electricity, and food on minimum wage. Car insurance and title/registration fees were more than our meager budget could handle. Dad used to like taking the bus downtown so he could walk by the river, and maybe stop at the VFW bar on the way home, where some other grizzled old war dog would recognize the haunted look in his eyes, and buy him a few beers. Occasionally, Dad would get offered a lift--he was never afraid of riding with strangers. He was from an era where picking up a walker on the side of the road was a perfectly normal, even expected, kindess. But it wasn't kindness that found him that day.

On June 8th, 1995, Dad was walking down to the bus stop that stood about two miles from our trailer park. A man named Rodney Doman pulled up beside him and offered him a ride. Rodney had been drinking with his buddy Robert McCabe, who was also in the car. They offered Dad a beer from their cooler, and didn't stop at the bus stop, the riverfront park, or the VFW bar. At some point they picked up Dad's fellow alcoholic friend, Jeff Blosser. Doman and McCabe plied them with beer and whiskey all day long, occasionally stopping to drag him out of the car and beat him. This went on for hours--fifteen, sixteen, nobody's really sure. Once they dragged Dad into a local bar, propped him up, bloody and beaten, and carried on until they were thrown out. Dad was far too drunk and dazed from the beatings to ask for help. Nobody called the police.

At some point during the early part of the night, Doman stopped to purchase illegal drugs, too drunk to remember that my Dad was still in the car. When he returned to the car with the drugs, Doman decided that since Dad had seen where he'd bought the drugs, and Doman was still on probation, Dad had to be "gotten rid of". McCabe came to his senses when Doman stopped somewhere for a moment, and told Jeff Blosser to run if he wanted to live. Jeff ran for help--but not fast enough. Sometime around 3:00 am on June 9th, 1995, they drove Dad to the top of a local wooded hill, dragged him out of the car, and threw him to the ground. Then Rodney Doman beat his head in with the metal bar from the upright tire jack in the trunk of their car, threw him over a hill into the woods, and left him to bleed to death. Dad's body was found later that day, when Doman was stupid enough to bring his girlfriend up to the top of that hill and brag that he'd "killed a man here last night", then threatened to kill her if she told anyone. The girlfriend called the police as soon as Doman dropped her back off at home. We got the call at about 9:00 pm. I was almost sixteen years old.

The trial took almost two years, and McCabe wound up getting a light sentence for agreeing to testify against Doman. Doman got life in prison without mercy (no parole), but a few years ago the "no mercy" part was thrown out due to a technical error at his trial. Still, he has to serve 25 years at a minimum, and the prosecuting attorney has assured us that the crime was violent enough to ensure that the parole board doesn't look kindly on Rodney Doman until he's a very, very old man. We all intend on testifying at his parole hearings to make sure of it. There is no death penalty in West Virginia.

That last sentence is what I want to focus on right now. People who defend the death penalty often cite the "victim's family" as a reason for it; supposedly, the execution of a murderer will make us feel like justice has been served. I *am* a victim's family member. But I oppose the death penalty with every ounce of my being, and so do my siblings and my mother. Rodney Doman's execution would do absolutely nothing to bring back my father--it would be just another death to add to the whole horrific story. I don't want revenge--I want my eight-year-old son to have the joy of building a birdhouse with Grandpa. I want my Dad at my college graduation in a few years, when I become the first and only member of my family to earn a college degree. I want my Dad at my side when I sign the first copy of my first book of poetry. Rodney Doman's death doesn't do a damned thing to make any of that happen. Doman will rot in prison until he's too old and too frail to be of serious danger to anyone else, and then perhaps he'll die a lonely old man whose children are too ashamed of him to visit often.

I'm content with knowing that he's lost his youth, family, and life to prison. Rodney Doman has children too, children who are grown now. Let them have their father, through bulletproof glass during "visiting weekend." I'd give my right arm to have my father back, even in such a way as that. I know how it feels to lose your father, and I don't want anyone using *my* family as justification for taking someone else's father away.

But the most important reason I oppose the death penalty, the most heartbreaking reason of all, is really the simplest. My Dad was a devoted liberal Democrat until the day he died. He opposed the death penalty--he opposed ALL institutionalized killing, war included. He firmly believed that when governments have the power to kill, it is inevitable that innocent people will die, and "justice" becomes a farce and a stage show. I could not live with myself if I violated one of his most intense beliefs about right and wrong, solely for the sake of a little personal vengeance.

So today...I am writing this post because Dad deserves to be honored--for his service, for his value as a father, and for the legacy of compassion and true justice that he left to his children. His is not the only story, nor the only point of view--but it's one worth taking into consideration when we elect the leaders who decide whether or not the government has a right to kill people--not in self-defense--but for the sake of punishment, "justice", and "spreading democracy."

Thanks for reading this. Please remember James Allen Heinze today. A prayer or a thought toward we, his family, who will mourn him for the rest of our lives, and work to make sure that his life is never forgotten.

Edit: for those who might think that there's something fabricated about this story--a link to a WV Supreme Court file about one of Doman's appeals.

http://www.state.wv.us/wvsca/DOCS/Fall98/24793.htm
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:18 AM
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1. :( Honor to your father.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:19 AM
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2. I'm so sorry for your loss.
:hug: :hug: :hug:
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:20 AM
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3. I will remember him today.
Beautiful, if not heart-breaking, post.

Thank you for sharing it with us.

Lex

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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:21 AM
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4. Shedding a tear for your dad, you and your entire family.
I'm so sorry for your loss.
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:22 AM
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5. Bump for Vets and your dad...
Everyone has their opinions but with 310 million people in the United States, you are going to have some really bad apples...

For example, anybody who kills the parents then rapes a 6 year old girl, needs to be put down. There is no place in our society or our prisons for that. I say prisons because I believe folks in prison need to be re-habilitated, not caged as that just makes problems worse.
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lost-in-nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:23 AM
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6. You are so right
Your father should be honored for his service and his value as a man, husband and father.

And I'll bet he would be proud of you..

What a sad but beautiful tribute....

and I am sorry for the loss of your Dad so many years ago.....


:hug:



lost
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:23 AM
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7. thought given, my sister
thank you for sharing that.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:25 AM
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8. beautiful post
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shifting_sands Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:25 AM
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9. yes
I will remember James Allen Heinze and the value he brought to life and the world by his work and through his children. He was obviously a gift to this life and will be in his next.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:25 AM
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10. Heartbreaking and beautiful at the same time
Thank you. K & R
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:25 AM
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11. Wow------ I am so sorry that happened to your family
Your post brought tears to my eyes. I am not pro-death penalty except in the most horrific of cases (re: ted bundy)but I promise to rethink even that, in honor of your dad.

It must have been very hard to type that. Thank you for sharing something so personal with all of us.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:31 AM
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21. It was an honor to type it, to be honest.
He was treated by the world as a "nothing" when he was alive, Marrah. Just another faceless poor person in West Virginia. But he was the biggest reason that I have grown into the woman I am today. He gave me so much more than just life, and I want to remember him and honor him in every way that I can today.

I keep looking out the window at the trees all around me, and thinking, "He died when the world was lush and green. West Virginia trees thriving in June in the last thing he ever saw..."

:cry:
:hug:
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:46 AM
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34. That reminds me of this:
Edited on Mon Jun-09-08 10:46 AM by Marrah_G
A Hundred years From Now

...it will not matter what my bank account was, the sort of house I lived in, or the kind of car I drove...but the world may be different because I was important in the life of a CHILD

Dr. Forest E. Witcraft from "Within My Power"

_______________________________________

The world was wrong.............

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trickyguy Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 05:25 PM
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136. This quote hangs on my kitchen wall. I'm a teacher. No kids of my own.
But I know how important an adult can be in the life of a child.

And to read this tribute to a beloved father makes me humbly realize the importance of a father's role in his family.

I'm sorry he met such a tragic and wasteful death. You obviously miss him greatly.

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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 01:18 PM
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78. you certainly did that today.
I'll remember his story for a long time - probably the rest of my life.

You did your dad right.
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MedleyMisty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:26 AM
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12. You are one of my favorite DU posters
Thank you so much for sharing this with us.

I want to say so much but I can't find the words. ((((hugs))))
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:26 AM
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13. Nominated.
Thank you for sharing this with us. I will be saying prayers for you and your family today.

Your friend,
H2O Man
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:26 AM
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14. A beautiful and horrifying story.
Edited on Mon Jun-09-08 10:30 AM by YOY
He sounded like a wonderful man that the world needed to have treated better.

Sorry for asking but what happened to your father's friend, Jeff? Did they murder him as well?
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:26 AM
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15. One of the best threads ever at DU
Thank you for posting this.

Don
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:27 AM
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16. I am sorry for you loss.
K and R
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:29 AM
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17. James Allen Heinze will be with me today
and probably for the rest of my life because of your love for him. I am so terribly sorry for you loss. :cry: :hug:
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:29 AM
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18. My God, Brandy.
I don't know what to say. I am deeply and profoundly sorry for your loss. Your dad sounds like a wonderful person. He would be very, very proud of you.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:35 AM
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28. Indeed he was.
And he was wonderful in spite of severe hardship, which astounds me to this day. The greatest regret of my life is that I was too young to realize it then, and I never got the chance to tell him how inspiring, touching, and amazing I find him now that I *do* understand it better.

There went a Man.

:hug:
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 12:57 PM
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68. You did "tell" him how inspiring he was... every time you played that Dictionary game with him.
As a father, whenever I share a moment like that with my son, I feel it from him. I'm sure your father did too.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 09:48 PM
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182. He knows, oktoberain, he knows.
And you are right to honor your father. he was obviously a good and honorable man, who had, as you say, a severe hardship, which was nobody's "fault".

He is, I am very sure, extremely proud of his daughter. You have "done him proud" by holding on to his example and not giving in to the temptation for revenge.

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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:30 AM
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19. I'm so sorry for your loss, Oktoberain...
:hug:

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Zuiderelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:31 AM
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20. What an awful tragedy.
I'm with you on opposing the death penalty. But I am so awfully sorry for this grief in your life. RIP James Allen Heinze. :hug:

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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:32 AM
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22. I am sorry..........
I, too, wish that your father were there with you and your children.

I live in a country without (at least for now) the death penalty.

I am grateful for that, not the least of which is for the "three m's." Those three men are Donald Marshall, Guy-Paul Morin and David Milgaard...All of whom spent years in jail, basically for being different. None of them were guilty of the offences they were charged with. They are all shattered people, but they are alive....and picking up the pieces.

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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:32 AM
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23. That was pretty powerful.
Thanks for posting this.

Thanks also to your dad for serving. My thoughts (and my agreement) are with you.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:33 AM
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24. Keep writing.. you create understanding in a horribly unforgiving world..
Thank you.. you will have an incredible future in front of you.
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femmedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:33 AM
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25. Thank you for sharing your father's story with us.
My heart goes out to you and to your father, who suffered senseless violence in Vietnam, came home and was murdered. It is truly a testament to your father that in the intervening years he gave you the values and the compassion to oppose the death penalty.

People who've lost loved ones to murder are some of our nation's most vocal and effective death penalty opponents. Your voice would be a strong addition to that movement if you so desire.

http://www.mvfr.org/
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:34 AM
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26. I'll carry your father's story in my heart for the rest of my life.
He really had a successful life in many ways.

Love and Good memories are sometimes the best inheritance and legacy you could hope to leave.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:34 AM
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27. Thank you for sharing that with us
I can't even imagine the pain.

:hug:
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Loki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:35 AM
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29. In memory of your father
Make peace our beacon and war nevermore.

Lee
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:37 AM
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30. A rec for your dad.
Though I don't entirely agree with your take on the death penalty (I know I would feel differently, if I were in your place), I can see why you feel as you do. I hope you will send this beautifully-written account to a major newspaper or magazine, as there are numerous themes that are important for people to read. Today is a "death anniversary" for me too, not of a close family member but still someone I cared about a lot. My sympathies for your loss.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:38 AM
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31. Oh my! I am so sorry...
Not to make light of this, but I see why you kick my behind in Scrabulous-- LOL. You do your father proud. I will remember you and your family today.
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Rhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 11:51 AM
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205. She's fabulous at "Scrabulous"...
Oktoberain and i have been playing Scrabble for over 8 years, and i have managed only 1 win in the hundreds of games we've played. It's now an ongoing inside joke with us... "...and The Streak continues!" *L*
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:39 AM
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32. Peace and love your way, oktoberain!
Your words are very moving. Thank you for sharing this. Tears, energy and love from me to you. I will keep you and your father in my heart today, but I will remember your story always. Peace, Kim
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:44 AM
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33. I'm so sorry for your lose.
The biggest tribute to your dad is you. He would be so proud that you learned his love and weren't consumed by hate and revenge. He will always be a part of your life.
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:48 AM
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35. Words fail me.
Thanks to you, we certainly won't forget James Allen Heinze around here. :hug:
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:49 AM
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36. Wow. Peace and love to you and your beautiful family
:hug:

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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:49 AM
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37. There are so many things I started to write, but nothing seems to convey how
much you touched me with your story, Octoberain. Incredibly heartbreaking and infuriating, yet uplifting as well as beautifully expressed. I just know that your father is so incredibly proud of you for telling your family's story. And I know that you've changed some lives today. I am terribly sorry for your loss, and I thank you profoundly for sharing your experience.

:hug:
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:52 AM
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38. Beautifully written post.
Very moving and persuasive. I'll be looking forward to that book of poems.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:59 AM
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39. My deepest condolences to all of you on the horrific death of your dad...
Edited on Mon Jun-09-08 10:59 AM by CaliforniaPeggy
This needs to be read by every person who thinks the death penalty is such a dandy idea...

My heart is full for you and your family...

Your dad lives in your hearts, and now he lives in mine...

K&R

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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:02 AM
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42. Thank you Peggy
:hug: :cry:

This day is probably the hardest day of the year for me and my family. Death is something that everyone deals with, but this kind of death leaves wounds that never really heal. Sharing his story makes him alive again for other people, in some small way. That's so important to me, especially today.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:59 AM
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40. I'm sorry for your loss, and sorry your father couldn't get the help he needed. nt
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:00 AM
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41. Perfect justice simply doesn't exist--but the DP is too imperfect to be justice at all.
Sadly, it's a frustrated society's revenge. Since we can't make the killing stop, we act out of our most primitive impulses.

Your father was ignored and mistreated by society--yet he had a most powerful impact that comes through in that story.
Thanks for remembering him to us. I will carry on his belief as ell as my own in the eternal struggle for justice.

God bless you and James Allan Heinze--all too slowly, I'm afraid, we learn from the likes of him. :hug:
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:03 AM
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43. a hard story to read-kick/rec in honor of your father nt
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:06 AM
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44. Your dad must be smiling down on you and your words today. Beautiful.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:07 AM
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45. You have written, both here and with your life, a fine tribute to your father.
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:10 AM
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46. Holding your father and your family in my heart today.
Thank you for sharing your story. You make the case against the death penalty eloquently. I hope everyone on DU reads this.

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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:14 AM
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47. Words are totally inadequate in answer to a story like yours. The best one
Edited on Mon Jun-09-08 11:15 AM by 1monster
can offer is an empathetic ear, a warm hand to hold, and a comforting hug when the story is told.

Your father sounds like he was a very intelligent, thinking, gentle man. The horror of war is probably hardest on people like him.

I once knew a young man who also suffered from PSTD as a result of his experiences in Vietnam. His voice shook when he spoke. His hands always had a tremor. I suspect tht his whole body shook most of the time. I never saw him act in anything other than a gentlemanly way.

He also took to drinking to try to blot out the memories that tortured him. And one evening, when even the drink couldn't lessen the pain, he killed himself.

I found myself weeping while I read your story. Not just for your father and your family, but for all of those whose humanity has been so gravely insulted by the horrors that men visit upon each other that they cannot cope.

Reading your story was my offer of an empathetic ear. My hand and my hug of comfort are metaphysically sent via the Internet.

In honor of your father whom obviously loved you and your family very much.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:18 AM
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48. Oh Brandy
Edited on Mon Jun-09-08 11:18 AM by MountainLaurel
:hug: :cry:
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:20 AM
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51. Me too, dear.
I think I'll be weeping on and off all day. I literally have a towel in my lap right now, because I've used up all the tissues.

:cry:
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:18 AM
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49. What a wonderful father you had. I am deeply sorry.
Your story is amazing.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:20 AM
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50. Honor to your father and so sorry for your family's loss
Thank you for sharing this story with us. My uncle and namesake was murdered and left dead on the railroad tracks for unknown reasons by unknown people. I agree with you on opposing the death penalty.


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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:22 AM
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52. I'm so sorry
It's painful enough losing a loved one to murder, and so much worse I'd imagine when there are no answers.

:hug: :cry:
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:37 AM
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53. What an honest and true way to honor all that was good in your father. Incredibly
moving, Brandy. I am so happy that you're able to cull the important and sweet memories
from so much pain.

And I look forward to seeing your name on the binding of a poetry book one day.

Susan/
hisownpetard




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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:39 AM
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54. A powerful story, and you have...
managed to surmount it all and are now in college. With that amount of strength and clarity of thought, I suspect we'll be hearing a lot of good things from you for a long time to come.

You realize you are not entirely alone in your situation? While West Virginia isn't a hotbed of anti-DP activism since it hasn't had capital punishment since 1965, there are many organizations like Journey of Hope and Murder Victims Families for Reconciliation out there that share your understanding that capital punishment is not an answer to crime, no matter how horrific that crime.

Would you perhaps consider adding your voice to these others?

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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:48 AM
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56. I'm not part of the official group, but I do add my voice
to this issue every chance that I get. It's important for people to realize that a government with the legal power to kill is a dangerous thing to civil liberty. Both the DP and war are institutionalized murder, both have the serious potential to kill innocent people, and both cost more than their more-compassionate alternatives.

The death penalty IS war; war against one person, rather than a nation full of people.

However, today is more about honoring Dad, so as you can see, I'm not arguing with those who hold the opposite view. Not today.

:hug:
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RoseMead Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:46 AM
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55. Your father sounds like a wonderful man
Your description of his carpentry touched me. My own husband worked making countertops - formica and solid surface. It was hard, dirty work, but I was very proud of him because he was making something useful and beautiful. He loved the work, too. But it didn't pay enough to support a family, and there were zero benefits, so now he's in a call center. It is one of our nation and society's greatest shames that a person who builds and makes essential things that cost thousands of dollars still can't make a living.

I also agree with you about the death penalty. I'm very glad my state does not have the death penalty, especially considering that we are literally surrounded by death penalty states.

Your father's goodness is reflected in you, and you will carry his memory to eternity. Bless you both.
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:50 AM
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57. There are no words to convey my sympathy...
I appreciate your honesty, and honor your courage for sharing your experience with us; and I Thank You. May we all take a lesson from it.

:hug:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:52 AM
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58. peace.....
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GreenEyedLefty Donating Member (708 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:52 AM
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59. As difficult as it was to read, thank you.
Thank you for sharing your story. I'm also opposed to the death penalty, but feel the victims' families' wishes should carry some weight in terms of sentencing. But that's JMO.

I'm saying a little prayer for your father. May he rest in peace.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:58 AM
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60. Thanks for the OP
Peace and low stress. My thoughts and prayers are with your pops, and your family.
God bless.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 12:06 PM
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61. It is obvious, the spirit of your father still lives in you.
He rests in peace, Brandy Leigh. Knowing what you have become, he truly rests in peace.

:hug:
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 12:31 PM
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62. Beautifully written
It is easy for armchair criminologists to talk about the death penalty. The testimony of a victim's relative is so much more compelling.

Condolences this terrible anniversary. You can at least look back on your father with pride instead of shame.
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dlfuller Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 12:39 PM
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63. Honor to you, your family, and your father
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 12:45 PM
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64. This is one of the most amazing posts I have ever read.
I am so sorry for your loss...your tribute to your father is a beautiful one.

Your father and your family are in my thoughts.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 12:48 PM
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65. You are very good writer.
He was a carpenter; a man with the brownest hands I've ever seen, a man who could work the miracle of making a home grow out of a pile of lumber, a few boxes of nails, and a pallet of shingles.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 12:49 PM
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66. James Allen Heinze deserves to be honored.
I send prayers and shed a tear as I honor him for his service, his kindness, and his deep belief in the worth of people, regardless of circumstance.

Thank you so much for sharing this profoundly loving man with us.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 12:57 PM
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67. this is a beautiful and moving tribute to your father
James Allen Heinze. Thanks for sharing it.
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lightningandsnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 12:59 PM
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69. I'm so sorry.
But thank you for sharing this story with us.

:hug:
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Nostradammit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 01:02 PM
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70. James Allen Heinze
Your father was a good man. You have my prayers and my thoughts - and my gratitude for sharing your perspective.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 01:07 PM
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71. your Dad sounds wonderful, I am so sorry.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 01:08 PM
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72. Thanks oktoberain. I was changing my mind on the death penalty issue
Your post is making me rethink things.

:hug:
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 01:10 PM
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73. wow.... uhhhh... just... uhhh... wow.
i wish i had known your dad...he sounds a lot like mine (except for the alcoholic part), who is fortunately still alive. I think i'll call him today, just because of you.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 01:11 PM
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74. A hug and a rec.
:hug:
I shed a tear for James Allen Heinze today, a man I didn't even know yesterday.
Thank you for sharing his (and your) story.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 01:12 PM
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75. Brandy Leigh, your homage to your Father made me weep.
I honor you and your Father and I understand what it's like to lose a Daddy too. My Father was killed by a drunk driver when I was six. I understand how you just ache for him. :hug: Your Father would be so proud of you.
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mrs_p Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 01:15 PM
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76. you and your family are in our prayers
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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 01:17 PM
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77. He may have been poor
But what a Legacy your father left. He would be so proud of you.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 01:21 PM
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79. You honor your father's memory with each day that you live
He will surely be remembered by hundreds of thousands of us this day and in the future.

It is difficult to understand people with so little regard for the lives of others, like the men who killed your father. I am glad that you have found a way to make sense of a senseless world through your writing. The world is too full of suffering and pain.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 01:32 PM
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80. Wow. Your father sounds like he was one hell of a man.
Concolences to you even after 13 years. And Doman should never ever get out of prison. RIP James Allen Heinze, from an Iowan who never knew you but knows some like you.
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 01:35 PM
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81. My deepest sympathies to you and your family
Words seem so inadequate at this moment.

But please know that your Dad is with you every moment of every day and is so proud of you.

I will never forget his story. Shedding tears along with the others.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 01:35 PM
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82. That's one of the most moving stories I've ever read
I was a volunteer fireman/EMT for a number of years and I've seen some horrific and tragic situations.

But I've never read such a heartfelt account by a loved one.

I'll remember your story for a long time. God bless you.
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 01:35 PM
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83. Your post made me cry, oktoberain
You and your family will be in my thoughts today.
:hug:
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 01:39 PM
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84. Good thoughts in honor of your dad on this day.




Peace:thumbsup:
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fizzgig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 01:39 PM
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85. thank you so much for sharing this with us
you have honored him well today and now i can, as well
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 01:42 PM
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86. I'm so sorry this happened to you and your family.
Thanks you for sharing your powerful story. :hug:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 01:45 PM
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87. My deepest sympathies on your irreplaceable loss.
There are no words to express what my heart feels for you and your family. Please know that your father's story and service to our country are infinitely important to me and all of your friends on DU.
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 01:51 PM
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88. Wow, octoberain. What an incredible story.
Thank you for sharing that with us.

I can only imagine the incredible pain you must feel for having lost your father in such a tragic way.

Please accept my deepest sympathy and compassion. :hug:

I send you and your family all my best good wishes for Healing, Strength, Comfort and Peace as you honor the legacy of your father's life.

May you move forward in your life on a path of Healing, even though your heart has been broken open.

:loveya:

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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 01:53 PM
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89. This is extremely touching and I believe your dad would be proud of you.
Thanks for sharing, oktoberain.:hug:
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 01:53 PM
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90. I have no words. NOBODY should have to go through this.
:hug:

And kudos for being strong enough to keep your moral compass in one piece. (A capability you surely owe to your Dad, among many.)

I shall bookmark this by way of DU journal. Do you mind me posting a link to this as a response when some blockhead comes with the old "you'd think different of the death penalty if one of you family was murdered" canard?
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 01:55 PM
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91. I don't mind at all. In fact, I hope you do.
That's one of the reasons I shared this with DU today.

:hug:
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 02:55 PM
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108. I knew you would, but for some reason asking permission felt like the right thing to do.
:hug:
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reflection Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 01:55 PM
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92. This was the saddest thing I have ever read.
I am so sorry.
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ceile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 02:01 PM
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93. I have no words.
Thank you for sharing. :hug:
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NewEnglandGirl Donating Member (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 02:04 PM
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94. Sending hugs and warm thoughts to you
Thank you for sharing this. I can see that you are proud of your Dad and I would be too. He is proud of you as well. :hug:
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 02:05 PM
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95. Thank you for sharing your story with us.
My thoughts and prayers go out to you and your family on this very difficult day. :hug:
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 02:05 PM
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96. I am so very sorry...
I really can't find the words.
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hardtoport Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 02:09 PM
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97. Thank you for telling your story.
Edited on Mon Jun-09-08 02:09 PM by hardtoport
My brothers were murdered in 1993. Even 15 years later, I find myself unwilling to talk a lot about what happened, but I wanted to offer you my condolences and say that I stand with you in your conviction that the death penalty is wrong. Nothing could ever ease the pain, not even the execution of those responsible.

I know how hard anniversaries are. My heart goes out to you and your family today.

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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 02:13 PM
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98. oktoberain, I am so very sorry.
Edited on Mon Jun-09-08 02:14 PM by SeattleGirl
I have tears in my eyes as I read this, tears that your father died in such a horrible way, tears at the demons that haunted him in the last days of his life, and tears at the loss that you and your family suffered and still mourn.

I completely agree with your stance on the death penalty. When my uncle was murdered, in much the same way as your father was, it never crossed my mind that the two men who did it should be put to death. It would not bring my uncle back; it would not reduce the pain of his death; it would only add two more senseless deaths to so many senseless ones.

I offer a prayer today in honor of your father, and for you and your family, who still feel his loss.



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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 02:15 PM
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99. Sobering, yet wonderful story.
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RedLetterRev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 02:18 PM
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100. Dear One,
What a beautiful man he must have been to have made such a beautiful child. It's never easy to get one's head around losing a parent (or any loved one for that matter). I'm so sorry he was torn away from you, especially in such a horrid fashion.

I lost my dad the same year, in February. Like your dad, he taught me core Democratic values; to value life and quality of life, to respect the Constitution, to guard my rights and to serve. Sadly, in my childhood, he wasn't there for me as your dad was. But we became buddies later in life and like you, I wouldn't trade those moments for anything. Treasure those snapshot-memories; they'll be strength when you need it and in the most surprising of ways. Though I'm weeping with you for your loss, those tears are mixed with tears of awe at your strength and your wonderful words.

Blessed Be.
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radhika Donating Member (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 02:19 PM
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101. Heartbreaking and beautiful.
Thank you for this post..my love to you and your family.
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 02:29 PM
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102. It is obvious how much you loved your father and what he meant to you
my deepest condolences.

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japple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 02:32 PM
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103. Peace and love to you and your family on this memorial day.
Your father's life is a testimony for putting an end to war; I'm so sorry he was unable to cope with the demons created by the one in Viet Nam, and for his suffering. I know you are proud of your Dad and are grateful for the things he taught you. Thank you so much for sharing his story with us.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 02:43 PM
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104. For you and your family
and your father :hug:
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 02:45 PM
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105. I Like your Father
A man of principles. A man who's family is the most important part of his life. A man not afraid of hard work. A man not afraid to have some convictions.

What a shame you lost a Father like that.

I will give my Granddaughter a little hug for you and James Allen Heinze. I hope I can be half the man to her as your Father was to you.
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darkmaestro019 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 02:51 PM
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106. (hug)
That's all I can say. (hug) for you and (hugXmany) for your family

and (hug) for your dad.


I'm so sorry, dear. But so glad, too, in a way--he succeeded in raising a wonderful, loving daughter. And nothing can ever change that or take it away from him.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 02:53 PM
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107. A couple of things that stand out from your story other than the tragedy
of your father's death was the fact that your father was a kind human being in spite of his alcoholism. As an ex bartender, I know that many a wounded spirit that seeks solace in alcohol is a nice person, not a mean drunks as those who would snoot down their nose at them would have you believe. Actually the mean drunks are mean inside even when they are sober. The alcohol lets them express it. Another thing is that as a vet, your father wasn't given the support he needed for his battle injuries both mental and physical. We have let our vets down terribly for this. The third thing is the labor laws that aren't in place that would have made sure that your mother didn't have to work brutal hours for less than a living wage to support you. Bless you. I know your story is the same as the story of many Americans who are the heart of this country and who aren't given the respect and the support they need to make a life for themselves. Thank you for sharing this. I'm sure it must have been very hard.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 03:04 PM
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109. What a beautiful tribute to your father. I wish you and your family peace.
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 03:22 PM
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110. I cried like a baby
reading this elegantly written story.

It is not the 8th, I didn't find this OP until a few moments ago but in time to give it a recommend. So I honor your dear father on the 9th.

I am so sorry that you had to lose your Father in this horrible way. You have honored him Brandy Leigh.
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ejbr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 03:26 PM
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111. Thank you for sharing memories of your father with us.
He is an inspiration. Your desire to not have his children lose a father as you have demonstrates the power of his influence. You and your family will be in my prayers.
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 03:31 PM
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112. you are a compelling writer and an honor to your father...all that book lernin
done ya good. Your father certainly did do well by you. Ya'll could have been rich and your father never taught you a word and now YOU would be poorer for it! What a great tribute to a wonderful man!
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Smith_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 03:33 PM
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113. Peace.
nt
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 03:34 PM
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114. One of the most touching tributes I`ve ever read at DU.
Bless your father and peace to you and your family, oktoberain.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 03:35 PM
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115. Is this a piteous post?
:shrug: Did I use that right? At least it sure arouses compassion.

Thanks you for this post and it just confirms my belief that capital punishment should be abolished in all states...especially Texas.

You and your wonderful family are in my prayers.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 03:35 PM
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116. Thinking of your dad right now
Beautiful, heartfelt post. :hug:
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 03:41 PM
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117. That is just unspeakably sad
You and your father will be in my thoughts not only today.

RIP James Allen Heinze. :patriot:
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 03:58 PM
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118. The death penalty lets them get out of paying for their crime.
Life in prison...they have to live with their lousy self their entire life.
:hug: to you...i'm not sure what else to say...i have no words...
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 04:04 PM
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119. upsetting, yes.
Do I want to goddamned recommend? Yes.

Thank you for this, oktoberain.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 04:04 PM
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120. I hope this anniversary is kind to you. Thank you so much.
:hug:
:grouphug:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 04:15 PM
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121. As a Viet Nam vet, I can say with certainty that you are testimony to your dad's greatness.
You were fortunate to have him as we are fortunate to have you among us.

:hug:

:patriot:
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 04:16 PM
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122. I am so sorry!
What a horrible, despicable way to
treat him!

He was a very good man, your dad.

:cry:

He would be so proud of you.

I will hold his memory in my heart.

Thank you for sharing his story.

:hug:
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Dystopian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 04:18 PM
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123. I just lit a candle in memory of your father....
This is the candle I held during the first peace vigil I organized...
The first vigil, I held the candle in honor of the memory of the father of my two oldest children.
He was a Vietnam vet and died by the needle 16 years ago.
I've re-lit it only one other time in memory of another Vietnam vet...a friend's father who committed suicide.

Bless you ...you and your family have had too much to endure...
I am so sorry...so very sorry, in tears...
You have strength....an extremely moving tribute to your beloved father.
He was a beautiful soul..He gave you everything that could never be bought...

Blessings to you and your family....
peace~
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 04:24 PM
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124. So well said. Peace and honor to you, your father, and your family. n/t
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 04:25 PM
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125. I remember your father today.
No death penalty, just time in isolation away from loved ones, if murderous bastards have any.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 04:28 PM
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126. Those who kill for profit deserve jail not those
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who are driven to mental illness and poverty because of them. Some having a lifetime of sickness and disability.

My uncles both served in WWII and never had their lives back the same again. They returned to high unemployment and no jobs. Alcoholism their disease.

That is why lying to the people by government representatives and employees is a felony. We can't make good decisions without truth. Too many of them should be in jail and punished.

This is why Congress is responsible to their citizens who pay and die for them. Little sacrifice they make. They live like "economic royals" on the backs of those vets and their families. How can they sleep at night except that they live in that little frat club of denial and arrogance.

A hug for you and your family on this day of remembering your father.
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 04:31 PM
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127. I am so sorry for your loss...
your father would be proud of the person you have become...I will remember this story for a long time...RIP James Allen Heinze RIP...wb
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sandsavage Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 04:38 PM
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128. Lifting your family
up in prayer. No words could say what I feel for your family.
James Allen Heinze will stay in all our hearts and minds this day.
Thank you for reminding us what true love is about.
You are a remarkable person.
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 04:39 PM
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129. Oktoberain, you are a far better person than I am. I wouldn't feel bad at all about that man getting
the death penalty.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 04:43 PM
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130. Very moving and beautifully written...
...best to you.
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 04:51 PM
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131. What a heartbreaking story !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I dont know how you got thru writing it,I could barely read it.Your dad was a great man and you are an honor to his memory.We need to stop hate and racism and looking down on the poor,it could happen to any of us at any time.
Bless you for sharing this story,I hope people read it and think about its true meaning
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Citizen_Penn Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 04:56 PM
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132. Large Loss
To lose someone who inspires us to be our best, and loves even those who cannot summon their own best - that's large.

You're a talented writer, and have given us a beautiful portrait of your father.

Peace.
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coffeenap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 05:04 PM
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133. Thank you for sharing this, oktoberain.
I will indeed think of him, and you, today. :hug:
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 05:06 PM
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134. This is the most profound thing I've read in a very long time.
Until today, I didn't cry because of what I read on the internet.

Please accept my condolences on the loss of your father.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 05:24 PM
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135. You have great courage, kindness, forgiveness, all good things that your father
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must have had a part in your having. I am glad you have those fond memories of him you wrote about and you will always have.

I don't know who wrote it but it was in a book and said: "To my father-Your spirit and character show me the way. I'll be forever grateful."

I can see that his spirit and character have shown you the way through life.

I hope this day is kind to you and your family and your future is good. I will think of your father today.

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catrose Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 05:35 PM
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137. Blessings (or at least good thoughts) to you and your family
and especially your father.

I've always imagined (hoped?) that I would feel as you do, but I have not walked in your shoes; so I can't claim any moral ground. At the end of the day, the "justice" done by killing a murderer is just one more killing. It does not bring you what you really want, as you say.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 05:37 PM
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138. A Beautiful Father's Day Gift
Thank you:grouphug:
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 05:38 PM
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139. Thanks for sharing your story.
Your post is very moving.
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logosoco Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 05:52 PM
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140. Thank you so much for sharing your story. Your father sounds like he was
a nice guy.
Your story means so much to me because I have a family member on death row for killing a 6 year old little girl. I know I was against the death penalty before this happened, but oddly enough, this made me want to see the DP sentenced, because I don't want to see him out of prison in 20-25 years. He will not be "old and frail" , he would be about 45, and I don't know what kind of person a killer will be when they've spent most of their lives in prison. He has been basically dead to me since the day this happened. It is somehow easier to deal with. Maybe this is cowardly. I don't know. There is not a whole lot out there that I have found on this "end" of a murder. I have researched it a lot. I have come across many stories when the murder victim's family came to peace with the killer remaining alive. This helps me very much. In this situation, we knew the family of the little girl, and it was there wish to see the murderer get the DP. That helped me with my feelings on it.
I do still grapple with it very much everyday. I am a very peaceful, nonviolent kind of person. And it's really hard to know what to feel when someone you know, someone related to your kids by blood, commits the worst crime I can imagine.
I am glad your dad is at peace now, even though it seemed too soon. And thank you very much for writing so eloquently about it. It helps me more than you will ever know!
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 05:52 PM
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141. No words
:hug:

You cannot know how your story has touched me.

Julie
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 06:26 PM
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142. Thank you for sharing this
God bless you and your family. I cannot imagine what it would be like to lose my father that way.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 06:51 PM
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143. What a beautiful tribute to your Dad. I am so sorry for your loss and for the horrible
Edited on Mon Jun-09-08 06:55 PM by mzmolly
manner in which it occurred.

Interestingly enough, I also have a father who served in Vietnam as well as a family member who was murdered. I happen to agree with your stance on capital punishment, though it took me a while to get here.

Peace to you, and again, I am so sorry about your Dad.

Thank you for sharing your story.
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Q3JR4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 06:52 PM
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144. I won't say that
"I'm sorry for your loss" because those words don't convey the depth of feeling that I would like them to.

I will say that you and your family are in my thoughts.

Q3JR4.

My life closed twice before its close;
         It yet remains to see
If Immortality unveil
         A third event to me,
So huge, so hopeless to conceive,
         As these that twice befell.
Parting is all we know of heaven,
         And all we need of hell.
- Emily Dickinson
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 06:53 PM
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145. Thank you so very much for this post. *hugs*
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 06:58 PM
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146. Your life honors your father -- is a living monument to the man.
He is proud of you and I am honored that you shared his life, your pride and love of him, with us.

In memory and in awe of James Allen Heinze.

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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:01 PM
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147. Stunning. Thank you for sharing.
This is a remarkable argument to ban the death penalty.

And may *God* bless James Allen Heinze and his family.
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:03 PM
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148. Hey, sweetie.
I'm so sorry to hear about what happened to your dad and your family. What a tough road you've all had to trod.

I like to think that, even tho he can't physically be here, he's proud of you yet. I like to believe that as long as someone is loved and remembered, they are never truly gone. You are the living example of everything that he believed in and do him proud with all the can-do spirit that keeps you not just going, but succeeding.

:hug:
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:04 PM
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149. I can't say anything ......
.... nothing.
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:11 PM
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150. One person tragic story can have a ripple effect to inspire countless others to make a difference.
It starts with you telling the tale and tossing the pebble. The ripples will grow.

Thanks for sharing. I will keep his memory and his story with me as I share it also.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:14 PM
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151. prayers and love for your family
and hope for a future without the death penalty and of illegal wars.

May your Dad RIP.

:hug:
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theFrankFactor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:19 PM
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152. Powerful, Sad and Beautiful. I admire you and your dad.
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lavenderdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:20 PM
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153. I know your Dad would be very proud of you-
I can tell by reading your loving tribute, that you have become the woman he dreamed you would be: the woman he encouraged you to be by reading and challenging you with the dictionary every night. He encouraged you to learn and see the world through his eyes of wisdom, brought about from years of living through and seeing what war would do people. The fact that you 'got' the lesson he was teaching about non-violence is evidenced by your death penalty stance; he would be proud of you. Your desire for a higher education and your ability to graduate would, I'm sure, make him beam with pride!

I'm so very sorry for your loss, oktoberain- I can't imagine losing your Dad in such a violent way. It does seem that the lessons your Dad left you, made a wonderful impression on you and you are better for them. Your story conveys such a loving bond between the two of you-- thank you for sharing it with us... :hug:

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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:24 PM
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154. You have done your dad proud. And he knows. nt
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:29 PM
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155. so sorry for your loss
but especially for what your father suffered in his life and in his death.

I was a peace activist against Vietnam -- at 13 one of the youngest, if not the youngest, draft resistance counselors of the Delaware Country Peace Action group in PA.

That hideous war destroyed so many lives. I'm so sorry your father's was one of them.
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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:30 PM
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156. I don't know if anyone agrees with me
but I always thought that life in prison without parole would be a far worse sentence than the death penalty. If I'm not going to get out, then kill me. But to make me languish in prison until I'm 84 seems a far worse punishment.

Thank you for sharing your story.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:59 PM
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161. I most definately agree with you.
Loss of liberty would eventually be far worse than loss of life.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 09:18 PM
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175. It means loss of self--watching the self die slowly,
then living without a true self. A worse hell than a fast departure from this world, I would say--and that's not even taking into account the horrible things that happen to prisoners.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:33 PM
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157. *hugs*
You know where I am, luv.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:24 PM
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166. *hugs back*
Always.

:loveya:
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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:34 PM
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158. Thanks for posting and I agree on the death penalty issue
Killing is never the answer
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:52 PM
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159. K&R and many hugs...
thank you for posting this.

:hug:

RL
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:56 PM
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160. THIS is why DU is a wonderful place. Thank you so much for sharing this with us..
and now it is recorded well..and in a place that can use the story to make a difference in other people's lives.
:hug:
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:03 PM
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162. I can't figure out what to say. Except that I am thinking of your father
and what a wonderful father he was. I am so sorry that there is so much hate and fear in this world. Peace to you and your loved ones.
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Asgaya Dihi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:06 PM
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163. K&R
For reasons I won't go into that story struck a chord with me, some for things I've seen in myself and some related to others. Thanks for taking the time to share. I know it couldn't have been easy but I also know it was well written and heartfelt enough that you made a difference with it. Hopefully for yourself in a cathartic way as well as for others, but I know it had to have touched others.
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psquare Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:08 PM
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164. What I will never understand is why this country finds the death penalty
an acceptable form of punishment. I feel so sad for your loss, and I think that you honor your father by carrying his beliefs forward to the next generation.
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concerned canadian Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:13 PM
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165. thank you so much for sharing this story

I am moved today and am very sorry for you and your family. What a wonderful, good man your father was.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:28 PM
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167. Wow.
Edited on Mon Jun-09-08 08:31 PM by 8_year_nightmare
Your inner beauty & strength shine throughout your writing, which serves as a testament to my belief that unsurmountable hardships can sometimes lead to blessings. You've gained so much that most can't acquire without having lived your experiences in this hedonistic world. You must be a pleasure to know personally. I'm very touched, & highly impressed with you.

I'm so sorry for your loss, oktoberain.

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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:33 PM
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168. Thank you for sharing your story

I can't imagine having something so tragic to happen to any family. I'm so sorry. Saying extra prayers for you and your family.
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klebean Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:34 PM
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169. I look forward to your published poetry
Brandy Leigh. I will read it with similar pride as your father would.
You have a great legacy (w/that huge dictionary of your father's) to
fulfill. Now - go to it, get your degree and publish the thoughts
you so eloquently shared with us.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:35 PM
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170. You are a testament to the fact your Dad did a lot of things...
very right..... Be at peace, my friend. I'm sure your father is now. Thanks for sharing a difficult but important story.
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ribrepin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:39 PM
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171. In honor of your father James Allen Heinze


May he walk the gentle hills of heaven forever and forever.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 09:03 PM
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172. Thank you.
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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 09:09 PM
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173. From another daughter of a Viet Nam vet, hugs and much, much aloha.
Remembering your Dad with you. My heart is totally with you.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 09:13 PM
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174. You are one amazing fellow and your son is a lucky boy.
Edited on Mon Jun-09-08 09:14 PM by David Zephyr
You wrote: "I a victim's family member. But I oppose the death penalty with every ounce of my being, and so do my siblings and my mother. Rodney Doman's execution would do absolutely nothing to bring back my father--it would be just another death to add to the whole horrific story. I don't want revenge--I want my eight-year-old son to have the joy of building a birdhouse with Grandpa."

And, oktoberain, you dad sounds like a "real man" by every standard.

Like you, our family has also had two beloved members who have suffered the hell of PTSD: One from WWII and the other from Vietnam like your dad. That PTSD effects not only the returning soldier or Marine, but his/her spouse, his/her brothers, his/her sisters, his/her parents, his/her children, his/her grandchildren, his/her neighbors, his/her co-workers...but most of all his/her life. And we love them, not in spite of it, but more so for it because they did what they were asked to do, told to do and we owe them so much.

I truly get upset with some on the Left who mock our service men and women and point to the fact that they had other options or are now "volunteers". Volunteers? When they can't find a job anywhere and are being chased, recruited and manipulated into the war machine. We have an economic draft today that is just as trapping as the draft before it was.

My brother now also has the extra "gift" from Vietnam: Parkinsons. I hate what we have done to these people. And yet, we are still doing it all over again in 2008.

I honor your father and the son he raised who posted this message today.

Here's to your dad! :toast:
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 08:21 AM
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200. Thank you so much, but just one thing...
...I'm a girl ;)

:hug:
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 09:26 PM
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176. My deepest sympathies.
:hug: God, I can't even imagine what that must feel like.
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bluesbassman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 09:27 PM
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177. Tremendously powerful story.
Edited on Mon Jun-09-08 09:32 PM by bluesbassman
My dad served in WWII, and growing up I never remember him talking about it much, even though I knew he had received a silver star and a bronze star so I did know he must have been involved in something intense. As I got older he began to talk politics with me and impart his liberal views. One of the things he was most adamant about was his opposition to the death penalty. I somehow found this odd, that a man who had killed enemies in war could oppose a criminal's (again an "enemy" in my mind) death.

Still, he never discussed his war experience, so I didn't fully understand. It wasn't until years later, after I had served in the military myself, that he began to share his experiences with me. The horrors of war taught him what "governments" are capable of doing. The killing he saw and participated in taught him that people like him, and you and me do not deserve to kill or be killed in the name of a government.

Not that he regretted the lives he saved by taking the lives of enemies that gave him no choice. He just came to believe that when there is an alternative, it should be taken. With capital punishment, there is always an alternative.

I lost my dad a year ago. While I'll miss him to the day I die, I'm also blessed to have had him around as long as I did. Although you didn't have your dad for quite as long as I had mine, it's quite clear that your dad, James Allen Heinze, taught you well, and instilled in you a moral code that is a legacy I know he would be proud of. Thank you for sharing what must be a profoundly painful recollection but is simultaneously a remarkably inspiring message.

Peace to you today and always.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 09:35 PM
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178. My god ...

That is the best, most heartfelt writing I have seen on this site in ages.

Thank you for sharing.

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Swagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 09:38 PM
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179. thank you for telling us your story. I'm happy that you at least
have some fond memories of your dad despite the awful things that happened.
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 09:41 PM
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180. Thank you. Peace be with you, your Dad and your family.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 09:45 PM
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181. what a wonderful man
thanks for sharing
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 09:52 PM
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183. this is a beautiful tribute
my daughter was killed in 2001. i am also against the death penalty (never a consideration in her case, it was vehicular). i also am active with a group known as justice for murdered children and know many who are adamantly for it, and do believe that they will achieve closure when the person who murdered their loved one is dead and not before. for me, the reason i oppose the death penalty is the simplest straightest belief i hold: people should not kill people.

your father is so proud of you right now. i know he must have been a good guy in spite of all the troubles, because look at you! you go.
:hug:
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east texas lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 09:59 PM
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184. To you, my friend...
Edited on Mon Jun-09-08 10:03 PM by east texas lib
Cast up now a kindly gaze,
From beneath your veil of tears,
Let a father's undying love,
Sustain you through the years,
Keep close always what he taught,
For it was beyond measure,
And know the legacy he left you,
Is by far the greatest treasure.





May you find peace...Jimmy.
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:54 PM
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185. you have my deepest sympathy, and I'm really not trying to be flippant but..
...do you remember the jingle for Chunky?
,,,a guy with an impossibly deep voice sings: "Open wide for CHUNKY!"

it makes me think of good times from being a kid.
like being out fishing, and the old man opened his tackle box; and then he'd sing that jingle....
and then he'd toss me a Chunky, which i scrambled to keep from dropping it.
it was our little game. those were great afternoons and the jingle still comes to me often when I think of him.

I hope the good memories will soon overcome the bad and you have some healing.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 12:02 AM
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186. What a gift you, your compassion and your talents are to the world Oktoberain.
You make your papa very, very proud.

Thank you so much for sharing this lovely and brave part of both you and your father.
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mntleo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 12:16 AM
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187. My God, What A Story!
...I want to commend you for your courage to stand for peace. I am typing with tears in my eyes and a heart that soars knowing people like you. I deeply pity this man's kids who are innocent and because of his cruelty and inhumane actions will also miss out of the same things your kids are missing as well. I am praying as I type for the love you show to heal you and your family and for your father to rest in peace.

Love
Cat in Seattle
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 12:39 AM
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188. What a rare privledge it is to read something written by someone of such great compassion
The purity of your love and the quality of your empathy is overwhelming as atested by the responses in this thread.

So clear and compelling is your description of your Father and his challenge it begs expansion and development into a screenplay.

It is that precious.
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Not Sure Donating Member (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 12:40 AM
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189. Thank you for sharing this
My greatest ambition in life is to have the kind of effect on my young daughters your Dad had on you, Brandy. He loves you very much from the way you tell his story. And you honor him well.

I'll remember your father.

Thank you very much.
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Oldtimeralso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 12:56 AM
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190. Thank you for sharing your story
I is a beautiful tribute to your father. Even with his troubles he did a great job with you and hopefully all of your siblings have such understanding as you have. Your memories of him will be cherished by many. I grew up in Chicago and had my own father shot, he survived, and I was stabbed but I think that I expected things like that living in the neighborhoods that we were forced to live in. I really did not expect that kind of violence in West Virginia. I have visited your state twice and my memories tend to be more like the John Denver song, but now I think they may be forever changed.
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Rhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 01:37 AM
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191. I feel poorer for not having had the chance to know my father-in-law in person...
and i can only attempt to picture him smiling as he enjoys the successes of his best and brightest.

:hug:

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jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 04:27 AM
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192. Thank You and honor to your dad
Thank you for your brave and heart felt post.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 04:51 AM
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193. oktoberain, I am so sorry for what you and your family have been through
Edited on Tue Jun-10-08 04:58 AM by last_texas_dem
I don't know much else to say, except that your father sounds like he was a great person, and I am sorry that you have had to live without him in your life for such a while now. It is a tribute to him that you have carried so much about him inside of you and that it has had a positive influence on who you are.

Also, I just wanted to add how much reading your post got to me. Your posts are always so beautifully written, and reading this personal recollection was very moving.
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DUlover2909 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 05:05 AM
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194. ok I'm a little teary eyed now. Bless you.
You know what forgiveness is and that's a great blessing.
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rdenney Donating Member (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 05:08 AM
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195. Thanks for writing this story about your dad. I am so sorry this happened to you.
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 05:56 AM
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196. One more kick for my brilliant friend
Edited on Tue Jun-10-08 05:56 AM by leftyclimber
Your daddy would be proud of you.

:hug:
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 06:41 AM
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197. I will remember him, for more than just that one day.
Thank you and I am so sorry. :hug:
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erinlough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 06:42 AM
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198. Thank you for writing this
because of your writing I will never forget your father, James. May he rest in true peace.
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Bettie Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 07:53 AM
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199. I'm so sorry for your loss
In every word, I can read the love you have for your father.

It is a terrible thing when someone like that is taken from their family and from the rest of the world.

I wish you peace on this day while you and your family remember your father.

Sounds like you are upholding your father's legacy very well.

Bettie.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 08:40 AM
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201. You have done a great service to the memory of you father...
nothing I can say can take away the pain if your loss. But perhaps the tears I shed as I read this might have a healing effect.

:hug:

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eagertolearn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 09:31 AM
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202. Thank-You for sharing. It reminds of the book "The Glass Castle".
Which made me realize that the love kids have for their parents really has no boundaries. It's why it is so important to find way to help parents "get back on their feet" when they take a detour to drugs, alcohol etc.. It is so importnat to help kids to stay with their parents whenever possible. Luckly you had your mom to keep you all together. If you haven't read that book you may want to.
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Left coast liberal Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 09:37 AM
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203. What a story. And, what loving tribute. Thank you for sharing.
:cry:
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 10:23 AM
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204. This made me cry - I'm sorry for you, and send hugs your way.
I'm sure he was a fantastic man and father. :hugs: I also oppose the death penalty 100%.
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