Still don't think there are pockets of racisim....

[Aviation Pro]

...ignorance and inbreeding in this country? Check out this comment from toothless wonder, Johnny Tevlor:

"We'll end up slaves. We'll be made slaves just like they was once slaves" (Click here for reference).

This is what the toothless wonders are really afraid of because back in the day Great Grandpappy GumsHisBiscuit owned him some Great Grandpappy Moses and beat him like a red-headed stepchild and now, in one of the lone synaptic events in the present day Johnny "Drool" Reb's mind, the bill is going to come due.

Well, little inbred denizen of some hoot 'n holler, I've never been ascar'd of that day because of men and mentors like SSG Elijah Fennell, who guided me through basic training, and Lt. General Julius Becton (click on the picture), who shook my hand after my graduation from Officer Candidate School. Yes, be afraid, slackjaw, because the time of stupid is about to draw to a close.

[babylonsister]

1. "Great Grandpappy GumsHisBiscuit"

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Edit to add, on a more somber note, they're nuckin' futz!

[qijackie]

2. Looks like your just demonstrated your own ignorance. nt

[Aviation Pro]

3. Read the article...

...

[Taverner]

4. No - anyone stupid enough to be racist deserves everything they get

[babylonsister]

5. How do you figure? Do you honestly believe if Obama wins,

all us white folk will magically be forced into slavery? :crazy:

[qijackie]

12. We are already slaves to the 1% who control the resources.... just mostly too damn dumb to believe

it or do anything about it.

[babylonsister]

16. The remark was made in relation to an Obama presidency; spin that.

You can't because it makes absolutely no sense. You shouldn't be berating the OP for this fool's ignorance and bigotry.

[qijackie]

20. I wasn't. I was berating him for his own. Although I've gotten crankier than I intended...sorry. nt

[qijackie]

6. I read it. What's the big surprise that we have huge numbers of racists .... oh, and

huge numbers of "non-racists" that seem to have a pretty piss poor opinion of a number of other people. You think your prejudices and nasty images and words are acceptable while theirs are not........ but when it comes right down to it, all comes from the same source. If you want to be different, try understanding, compassion, and maybe even some kind communication with those that you think "deserve" to be the targets of your displeasure.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

8. No. I'm done coddling racists and trying to "understand" them.

I find it disturbing that so many people (like you) are more concerned with the tender widdle fee fees of the Johnny Trevors and the Harriet Christians of the world than you are for the victims of their bigotry.

[qijackie]

9. Although I often fail, I try to be concerned about all victims... I include you. nt

[mrreowwr_kittty]

11. I don't need your concern or sympathy

Save it for poor skeered Johnny who thinks he's going to be a slave if Obama is elected and Harriet, who claims she's a "second class" citizen in her wealthy Manhattan enclave because Obama won.

[qijackie]

14. Hey, there's a man on my street who steals everyone's trash cans.... you could despise him as well.

Oh...does it matter if he has Alzheimer's?

[mrreowwr_kittty]

19. I don't despise anyone. I just don't believe in coddling ignorance and bigotry.

Johnny Trevor doesn't need "kindness and understanding" for his bigotry. He's clearly gotten too much of that in his life and that's the problem. He needs to be firmly, and unequivocally informed that he's wrong. He needs to be told that if he refuses to vote for an African American then we don't need his vote.

[aquart]

10. So, basically, you prefer to be ruled by prejudice.

They don't agree with you, so you dub them as some kind of subhuman without emotions or reason or thought processes. That's simplistic. That's stupid. That's ugly. That's bigoted.

Yeah, your candidate is gonna be a uniter. Not with thinking like yours on the frontlines.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

13. You may choose to be all moral relativist on racism, but I don't.

I bet if Johnny Trevor were claiming that men would be castrated if we elected Hillary, you'd get it.

Wake up and stop giving these people a pass.

[qijackie]

15. No passes. Just no interest in your side either. nt

[mrreowwr_kittty]

21. If you are on the side of racism, that's fine with me. nt

[Two Americas]

24. way out of line

That is an unwarranted personal attack, and very cowardly.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

27. Whereas the poster I responded to was the epitome of politeness.

Whatever. :eyes:

[Two Americas]

30. politeness

Nothing to do with politeness, but even if it did the bad behavior of another person is not a justification for our own bad behavior.

[Two Americas]

22. "these people"

"You cannot judge the individual by the group, and you cannot judge the group by the individual."

Anything that violates that contributes to racism, it is not anti-racism. Fancying yourself to be an anti-racist, and then thinking that this justifies you violating that principle doesn't change the validity of the principle.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

26. What group am I judging?

Seems you are painting me with the same kind of broad brush (I'm really tired of that term but I can't think of another right now) that you are accusing me of using. I don't "fancy" myself anything. I'm an ordinary white person who has experienced a tremendous amount of institutional and unspoken privilege due to my pigmentation. That does not mean I'm immune from racist thoughts or attitudes but I try to work on them and call them out in other white people I think that's the least that can be expected of me and others.

You keep coddling the Johnny Trevors and Harriet Christians, it's your choice. Keep making excuses for them. "Aww, they don't really mean it. They're just scared and angry. Let's give them a blanky and be sure not to nominate anyone who's too 'ethnic' for them to vote for." Keep chasing your own tail trying to keep them in the Democratic tent. Far as I'm concerned they can go be repukes.

[Two Americas]

32. I don't know

I thought you were supporting the sentiments expressed in the OP. If so you are supporting a malicious and inaccurate stereotype.

What is with this "if you keep coddling..." stuff? I am not coddling anyone, nor making excuses for anyone.

I think that we can expect much more of ourselves than "working on" things - whatever that means - and calling out others. My point is that those things can be a form of denial and an excuse. That is not accusing you of anything, and we can go around and around in circles accusing people of accusing others of being accusers, as the right wing propaganda has trained us to do so well, and it will be impossible to have any sort of discussion as we take turns getting offended and defending ourselves and attacking each other. I wasn't saying anything about you personally, I am referring to the things we - we, all of us - think and say.

[Raineyb]

23. No

Racists are extremely bad for my health. I have not the time nor the inclination to coddle those fuckers. I don't give a damn where they're from and I don't give a damn as to why they're bigots. If they look at me and only see someone to whom they feel superior it's not up to me to prove these morons wrong. It can't be done. They'll only find some other way to twist reality around to fit their preconceived notions. These idiots would see a white woman and give her the benefit of the doubt. That is all I'm demanding. Not asking for, demanding, the benefit of the doubt while walking down the street, or walking in for a job interview, or applying for an apartment, or even shopping in the bloody store. Anything else is unacceptable. If that makes them uncomfortable. Too bad.

I do not speak for all black people and I can't answer every dumb ass question you may have about why some black people do this or that. Ask the person who did it. Oh, and telling me I speak so well is not a bloody compliment.

Now, if someone with more time and patience than I have wants to take time to school these ignorant asses that's their prerogative. I cannot and will not do it.

I don't understand people who want to treat racists with understanding as though what they have is some kind of disease which can be cured or treated with drugs. It's a mindset they have to want to change it. You can't force them to no matter how much you try. People who want to change their mindset don't say the stupid shit that Johnny Telvor of the article said.

Regards

[blindpig]

7. Well, as a toothless wonder

I find your remarks to be the height of ignorance and arrogance.

You will find as much racism in the burbs, among the middle and upper class, among liberals. They're just circumspect, sneaky, not forthright as their country cousins are about their racism.

I suggest you learn to focus on the real enemy, the ones with money.

[qijackie]

17. Just a thought here... the Southern Poverty Law Center has massive amounts of

experience with racism and hatred of all sorts. Their antidote is Teaching Tolerance. You might want to check out their website...and they have a great "Hate Map". And if I have gotten testy here, I apologize. But the answer is not more intolerance and bigotry.

www.splcenter.org

[mrreowwr_kittty]

25. No one is advocating lynching these people or retaliating against them.

And I applaud the SPLC for its educational efforts. They are a terrific organization. But at some point it's time to hold grown people accountable for their actions and attitudes. Upthread, you posted about your neighbor who has Alzheimer's, as if there is a strong parallel between a person with a mental disability and a run of the mill racist. There is no indication that Johnny Trevor possesses any mental or physical defect of any sort, and I find it hard to believe that the large number of people, from all over the country who have continue to possess some appalling views on race (myself included at times, admittedly) are mentally disabled either. No, they are people who have learned some bad thinking habits and are capable of learning new ones if forced to. Too much coddling and "understanding" leads to the Reverse Racism mentality, where whites are too busy focusing on perceived slights against them to make any progress - AKA Geraldine Ferraro Syndrome.

[TahitiNut]

29. Hate the sin; love the sinner.

It's not an especially novel idea, even though so many don't get it. :shrug:

[Two Americas]

18. pockets?

Our culture, economy, and politics are all dominated by racism. Seeing it as only being in little "pockets" over there, as held only by inferior beings who are not at all like us, is a form of denial and that helps maintain racism.

The contempt and hatred expressed here - supposedly acceptable because it is directed at the haters by the self-described "enlightened" and superior ones - is part of the problem, a major part of the problem, and can never be part of the solution.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

28. I'm not denying that racism permeates every echelon of society.

Geraldine Ferraro probably has a lot more money and social cachet than I ever will and she's a racist loon. Harriet Christian (the woman who called Obama 'an inadequate black man' in the youtube from the RBC) lives in a tony Manhattan enclave. Pat Buchanan, need I say more?

I wish that articles like the ones in the OP would focus less on the geographical and class aspects than they do but that doesn't mean that I'm unaware of the pervasiveness of racism, nor that it's a cultural elitism thing for me.

[Two Americas]

31. very good

You disagree completely with the OP, then, as do I.