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(OFFICIAL Rep. Kucinich Introduces Articles of Impeachment of George W. Bush THREAD Part III) |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:07 PM
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:09 PM
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6. Actuary threatened with sanctions |
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if he gave Congress the actual costs of the drug benefits.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:10 PM
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12. Bush failed to take sufficient action on Katrina! Go Dennis |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:13 PM
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When DK started on Katrina.....I started crying |
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bush was at mccains birthday party and New Orleans died.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:29 PM
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65. All he did was fly over the disaster area in his jet |
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and appoint a total incompetent to oversee the disaster (mis-)management
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Mon Jun-09-08 11:50 PM
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182. "heckofa job, Brownie" |
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Tue Jun-10-08 12:34 AM
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184. Yeah, Brownie and his contaminated FEMA trailers |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:08 PM
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Medicare stuff now - which article are we on? nt |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:09 PM
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Katrina - go Dennis!!!
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:10 PM
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11. my c-span stream has a slight time delay so the comments get ahead of my ears :) |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:11 PM
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I'm lovin it. Go Dennis!!
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:08 PM
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3. This is what the path to freedom looks like. |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:08 PM
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4. Wow -- 3 threads already! I was in another ... glad to be on the "official" |
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Just spoke to Kucinich's office and was thrilled to be able to express my thanks for Dennis speaking up for ALL OF US who believe this is not just an OPTION but something Congress is REQUIRED to do. Thank God there's one man out there who UNDERSTANDS his oath of office!
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:08 PM
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5. Dennis's words are music to my ears. |
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He is so detailed in his presentation. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:10 PM
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8. This is a terrible idea. |
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I knew the Dems would try to lose the election again.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:11 PM
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13. the truth is always good enough...nt |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:12 PM
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20. Yea... tell that to 2000, 2002, 2004. |
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You have to play smart, and consider what's in the best interests of the Country. More divisiveness isn't
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:22 PM
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44. and that is why we are in the dark , pun intended |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:28 PM
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62. Yea, this'll really get us justice. |
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OTOH, focusing on minimizing Bush's damage and electing Obama will bring us peace.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:29 PM
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64. keeping this administration in power thru McCain is "divisevness"? |
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Yeah yeah yeah,war is peace and all that stuff. Don't switch horses in the middle of a stream and don't make waves against a sitting president.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:34 PM
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82. An impeachment is divisive, and will generate pity for Bush. |
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You don't think that everyone knows what a corrupt piece of shit the man is? 80% of the country says we're on the wrong track. Americans know president dipshit is a tainted, evil puppet.
But give him a chance to paint himself as a victim? That'll mobilize the base and generate pity support for McCain. Remember that NYTimes article on McCain and lobbyists? It was true, but the base rallied around McCain because they saw it as liberal bullying.
But hey, throw away the election again.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:37 PM
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91. "but hey throw away the election again" |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:39 PM
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97. Uh, no I wouldn't. That's why I want these pointless circle jerks to stop. |
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I want passable legislation to provide Americans with real help, not pie-in-the-sky proposals that will only be used against us in the fall.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:42 PM
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111. damn straight! Don't call him on ANY of his High Crimes! I mean, after all, what would oreilly say? |
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And we know how many swing voters listen to him!!
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:48 PM
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127. What would be better would be to instead try to start fixing some of the problems right now. |
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But no, we have to make a stand against George W. Hitler!
As for O'Reilly, it's not so much the moderates I'd worry watch that as the base. They're demoralized right now, but get them fired up, and they'll spin this to "Look! Those Dems are crazy and just want revenge!" to the moderates, which will look like more partisanship, losing us moderate votes.
Of course, some moderates will hear it and it will hurt their views of the Dems.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:48 PM
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129. thats some fine fine concern |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:51 PM
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139. clue by four-multitasking. Do you seriously believe the House will stop everything to work on this? |
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That would be great but highly doubtful.
As for those nutzoids who worship mrbush and think any application of responsibility for his actions is wrong, guess what. This won't change their minds.
Of course, some moderates will hear the list of crimes and it will change their minds into being more skeptical of McSame.
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Mon Jun-09-08 11:25 PM
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The reins of power have been held by warmongering liars for nearly 8 years now and you want to go along to get along? Screw that. Truly, screw that.
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Mon Jun-09-08 11:27 PM
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177. Read all the comments. You will shake your head.... |
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Tue Jun-10-08 06:57 AM
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188. 80% of the country who think we're on the wrong track includes a lot |
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of moderates who are sick of this shit as well. Congress has a lower approval rating because they've failed to stand up to this and stop it. This will be much better received than you're predicting.
Right at the end of the primaries? With a message of changing politics as usual? I think it was coordinated with the campaign
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:45 PM
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:49 PM
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132. Mine? You're the one who doesn't care about the effects of this on the upcoming election. |
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The ONLY way we're going to rebuild America is if the Dems get back control. This WON'T do that, and could aid McCain in retaining the Whitehouse.
And you're OK with that?
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:50 PM
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133. Your concern is noted |
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This will have an effect or it wont. Your certainty that it will DOOM US DEMS!!!!!!11111 is fucking ridiculous.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:51 PM
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136. One of these could hurt us, but if this type of stuff keeps going on, it could cost us the election. |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:52 PM
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:54 PM
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149. Which"us" do you mean? eom |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:54 PM
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147. um, mcCain isn't in the WH now, can't "retain" it. |
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Your concern has been noted. Guess I'll go call Kucinich and tell him an anonymous poster on an internet forum is having issues with presenting crimes against mrbush while he's out of the country and maybe he could take it all back for a week or so. How does that sound?
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:59 PM
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155. You might want to add that more than half the country's on my side as well. |
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Mon Jun-09-08 11:04 PM
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157. 3 questions. Which "side" is that, why do assume that, & do I need to teach you how to use a phone? |
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If you have concerns, maybe you should call him yourself? Do you have a phone, or access to one? How about access to the internet? Maybe you could find somewhere, somehow to get on the internet and contact him yourself? Maybe one of that 1/2 the country will loan you a phone, or internet so you can contact him? If not, posting a request on DU, as a new topic, might be a good idea as we are such a helpful community. To other members. maybe?
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Mon Jun-09-08 11:11 PM
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Tue Jun-10-08 01:10 AM
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Seriously- where is your proof to your retoric? More than half of the country agrees with you?
I'll call you on it- bullshit- provide your proof or shut-up.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:38 PM
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93. The victim. Mrbush is the victim of...what? I am perplexed here. |
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tell us more of how those conservatives think.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:41 PM
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107. They're paranoid little cravens who think everyone is out to get them and their party. |
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Again, that's what happened with the NYtimes article on McCain and lobbyists. The base rallied to his support because, despite its accusations of corruption being true, they still saw it as liberals picking on a Republican, one which I might add they DON'T support normally.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:44 PM
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118. And we certainly don't want them to be held accountable for their crimes, do we. |
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After all, your concern has been noted. Thank you for participating.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:50 PM
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134. What in God's name will this do to hold them accountable? n/t |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:51 PM
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137. Do you know what the Congressional Record is? |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:53 PM
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144. Yes, I'm familiar with that. But when Gravel did this, it allowed such information to get out. |
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Most of America already knows about the bullshit Bush has put us through. This isn't going to add anything.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:11 PM
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15. The people are way ahead of the Congress. This needs to happen. People are |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:11 PM
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16. Did you now? I think the timing on this is AWESOME! |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:14 PM
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23. Yea, go after a guy when he isn't even in the country to defend himself. |
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That'll go over well with the moderates.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:16 PM
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26. Oh please. bush* has enough subordinates to do his dirty work.... |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:19 PM
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32. Not sympathy, just logic. Dems are stereotyped as being weak. Attacking someone when they |
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aren't even there to defend themselves looks like a cheap shot to most Americans, and will only lead to us losing votes.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:21 PM
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38. I vehemently disagree. And don't worry, I'm sure bush* will trot out |
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some appeaser to try and cover his ass. I cannot believe your comment. How dare Congressman Kucinich bring this up now while bush* is out of the country?:sarcasm:
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:22 PM
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45. Of course he'll do that. But to the moderates and the right wing, it'll look like a cheap shot. |
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And the Dems can't win without ONE of those groups' help
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:25 PM
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50. No it won't. The entire country knows what an abject failure bush* has been. |
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And quite frankly, the research that Congressman Kucinich has done on these Articles of Impeachment is nothing short of impressive.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:37 PM
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92. Yes, the country knows how corrupt Bush is, yet they still don't support impeachment. |
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It will paint Bush as the victim of liberal bullying, regardless of the veracity.
Remember the NY Times article on McCain and that lady lobbyist? It was entirely true, but the base and some moderates saw it as angry liberals picking on McCain, and they rallied around him.
This would generate the same effect, potentially losing us the election.
Now, tell me, what's more important: Winning the next election and fixing all these problems, or continuing with these circuses and letting the drunk-on-power Repubs get behind the wheels for four more years?
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:40 PM
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104. Hit yourself with a clue-by-4. Those real moderates that hear all this will listen |
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Those who won't, probably won't even hear it.
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Tue Jun-10-08 07:23 AM
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189. He can "defend himself" just fine from wherever he is |
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Air Force One has all the best communications equipment, reporters have links back to their networks, Bush brought his spin team with him...even as we speak, there are people sitting there formulating Bush's response to DK's articles of impeachment.
I predict, as do most of us, that Bush's response to the articles of impeachment will follow one of three paths:
Path 1: This is a totally partisan attack on a sitting president and it is completely patriotic to not support the president in a time of war. The acts we are taking have ensured that no terrorist attacks have occurred in the United States since the tragedies of September 11th.
Path 2: These baseless slanders are completely false, and I would be happy to prove that in a court of law. Unfortunately for me, the Constitution says I cannot answer these charges in a court of law, so I must stand here and be insulted by the man who let the Cuyahoga River catch fire while I was heroically and successfully defending the peaceful village of Ciudad de Juarez, Mexico, from Viet Cong invasion.
Path 3: Get out your copy of The Blues Brothers and forward to the scene where John Belushi explains to Carrie Fisher why he skipped their wedding.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:16 PM
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27. lol. But Perino will speak for him. |
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I'm sure she's being briefed for any questions regarding this night.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:21 PM
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41. Timing is bad because bush is out of the country? bwahahaha |
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That is pretty funny. "He isn't even in the country to defend himself." Oh, poor mr bush, he's out of the country and can't defend himself. Oh give me a break
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:24 PM
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48. I'm not saying he can't defend himself. I'm saying that's what it will look like to a typical voter |
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But hey, we can win without them. After all, we did in '04
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:31 PM
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76. Yeah, esp since this is being covered so widely on fox tv and all |
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Do you seriously think they will care? Guess you do. Oh well. I don't.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:22 PM
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43. thats funny...given the crap we've been thru and so clearly outlined by dk..nt |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:24 PM
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49. Concerned about "Moderates"? |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:25 PM
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51. Yeah, why don't we just rely on the liberal vote, and ignore anyone to the right of Michael Moore. |
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That'll work. It's done so well in past elections.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:26 PM
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53. "...to the right of Michael Moore..."` |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:52 PM
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141. Well, apparently if you don't believe in impeachment, you're a freeper here. |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:27 PM
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55. That's exactly what I'm advocating |
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Gee it's like you are reading my mind.
I appreciate your concern- T r o l l e r y
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:28 PM
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60. Kind of like Bush attacking Obama when Bush was overseas? |
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Bush has no defense there.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:35 PM
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89. It just isn't fairrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 I'm series!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:42 PM
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110. I'm not defending Bush for that. I'm simply saying, for our own stakes, we shouldn't |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:46 PM
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124. Holding someone accountable for their crimes, or even just listing them, is the same as smearing |
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someone about something that isn't true. Got it.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:31 PM
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72. Ummm Dark... This is the 21st century... |
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I'm sure bush will get a telegram about this, and he can send off a defense by morse code or some such...
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:35 PM
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Congressman Dennis Kucinich Impeaching you, STOP.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:43 PM
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114. It's about perception. |
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And the talking point will be "oh, look, those libruls aren't man enough to take Bush on when he's in town."
But of course, I'm sure that this pointless legislation will only add to the Dems' support.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:46 PM
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126. We get it, Go along to get along, dont rock the boat |
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you wish that DK was working on bills for the poor unfortunate souls, on great passable bipartisan legislation.
We get it. now quit crapping on this thread with your fucking 'concern'
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Tue Jun-10-08 07:30 AM
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190. No, no. Carrier pigeon. |
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He'll return his resignation as a note in a whiskey bottle cast into the ocean.
That's why there's a full bottle of Jack Daniel's on Air Force One. If he has to resign, they'll empty the bottle and insert the note.
They will of course empty the bottle into Bush. There are training drills for this very eventuality. Every time Bush gets on Air Force One, he goes through the same drill: empty the bottle, write out his resignation (text of the message: "Screw you guys, I'm going home") and shove it in the bottle. They then destroy the bottle so it doesn't accidentally fall into the wrong hands.
You can see the results of these training drills: just look at the photos from any Air Force Academy graduation, especially the one in 2007 where he just about staggered off the stage.
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Tue Jun-10-08 01:49 AM
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187. These moderates you refer to... |
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Would those be the same people who were "reagan democrats" ?
Cause if so, they can piss up a rope...
Bush and crew need to be JAILED, not merely impeached.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:12 PM
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19. it's not like all the other Dems are lined up with him? |
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:shrug:
obviously this is for the public record - can't get 60 votes in Senate - but anything that puts doubt on McSame's predecessor is helpful.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:15 PM
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25. There isn't anything but doubt for his predecessor... and that's being generous. |
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What it will generate is suspicion that the Dems are weak, divided, vindictive or even that they take cheap shots.
That's not what we need right now.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:17 PM
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31. Kucinich hasn't even endorsed Obama, has he? Most people won't even know this happened. nt |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:21 PM
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40. Right wing radio will be abuzz, and their ditto head listeners will know. |
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But of course, they didn't campaign against us last time, right?
This will help motivate the base to protect their dear leader from the big bad Democrats, and by extension, McCain.
The Dems are trying to look like the moderate, sane party in this election. This play is exactly what the Republicans are hoping for.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:27 PM
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I think they'll laugh at Dennis, not rally the troops behind Bush on this. They don't want to talk about Bush's record. Drawing attention to this would not be what they want - thus it's not being covered on any news networks.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:14 PM
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24. Hard to win without pandering huh? |
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This is truth spoken tonight. I really can't blame anyone for not recognizing truth and integrity and a government official actually doing their job. It has been sooooo long but I remember, some of us remember.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:17 PM
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30. Doing his job would be working on bills that could pass and help average people, not |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:21 PM
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37. I don't even have a civil response to that. |
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Just wow. Just fucking wow.
BTW, whiny vindictive crybabies would be a step up for most of them. This one is doing the job he swears to do.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:26 PM
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54. Yes, promoting go nowhere legislation that uses up valuable time and energy and could hurt |
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Maybe the rightwingers were right, and that is the Government's job. :eyes:
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:28 PM
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:28 PM
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59. "maybe the rightwingers were right" |
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And other fascinating thoughts.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:30 PM
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67. where are you visiting from? |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:30 PM
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70. so how do you feel about congressional oversight? |
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Should they only pass legislation, not do investigations? Are hearings about the executive branch a waste of time too?
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Mon Jun-09-08 11:14 PM
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167. No problem with investigations that GO somewhere, or have a chance of actually helping America. |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:32 PM
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:43 PM
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113. So "THE PEOPLE" Should Not Speak The Truth In THEIR HOUSE??? |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:44 PM
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117. Call Kuchinich's Office at 202-225-5871 |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:54 PM
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146. Sounds more like Harold Ford to me |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:57 PM
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:57 PM
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154. Ah, yes. If you don't agree with impeachment, you must be a Republican shill. |
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I think I'm finally starting to understand why people consider so many of us liberals elitists.
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Mon Jun-09-08 11:09 PM
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161. All kinds of republican ideas are just popping into your head unbidden |
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Imagine all the talking points, maybe they are all right!
damn liberal elitsts!!!111
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Mon Jun-09-08 11:10 PM
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164. now now now, maybe it's out of the country and can't defend itself |
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Mon Jun-09-08 11:13 PM
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166. Awww, idealists are sooo funny when they're angry! |
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Meanwhile, while Kucinich was working on this pointless drivel, four Dems actually put together something http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Democrats_introduce_bill_to_outlaw_Pentagon_0609.html">useful
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Mon Jun-09-08 11:18 PM
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168. Dark thinks DK just read "pointless drivel" into the congressional record. |
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Aww thanks for the Condescension, cutey-pie
Infantilize and ad hominems, another timehonored tactic brought to you by Dark, the Concerned DU'er who hates Impeachment. got it.
And how pray tell, concerned du'er did Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ), John Kerry (D-MA), Bob Menendez (D-NJ), and Byron Dorgan (D-ND) get delayed by the reading of these articles into the record?
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Mon Jun-09-08 11:23 PM
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171. But it's not fair since mrbush was out of the country. |
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see, another fine concern.
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Mon Jun-09-08 11:23 PM
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172. Yeah its dealer's choice tonite |
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He's got a full deck of excuses as to why this is a "bad idea".
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Mon Jun-09-08 11:25 PM
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175. I don't think "it's unconstitutional" has been used yet. |
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Mon Jun-09-08 11:20 PM
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170. See, Democrats can multi-task. So, have you figured out how to contact DK yet? |
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wondering if you've found a phone, learned how to use it, or a computer and internet connection?
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:33 PM
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80. Wow. That is...something. And so are you.Pointing our crimes=whining. |
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Tue Jun-10-08 01:13 AM
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186. His oath of office comes first...... |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:27 PM
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56. That's right, Dark! We need to keep our powder dry! |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:10 PM
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9. wooo katrina. beautiful Dennis! |
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Is there anything left out here? He has managed to cover everything I could possibly think of. ALL of this for the record. ALL of this for history. Now if we can just learn to not keep repeating that history and that includes not letting these bastards get away with this.
K&R BABY!
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:16 PM
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29. MuseRider - I agree with you... |
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He's hit EVERY nail in the fence. He's left nothing out.
Everything we have been screaming about...
One by One he's laid it out.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:22 PM
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47. It is making my brain hurt |
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only after my heart drops once again then soars hearing it being put in the record.
When I called his office I added a thanks for the staff that helped put this amazing document together. They have done outstanding work.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:16 PM
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28. hmm, that warning quote reminds me of a certain warning of a terrorist attack |
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Another case of "we could never have imagined!!!!!11" despite reports predicting what happened - hey - Dennis just made my point as I typed it :)
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:19 PM
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33. I will never forget Katrina |
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I was on DU before the storm hit and never plan to forget all the warnings and all the neglect.
#32 - Misleading Congress and the American people systematically undermining efforts re Global Climate Change!! Dennis has every single crime listed.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:33 PM
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Dennis would never sit on a committee and wonder out loud |
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that Bush is torturing people. He's the real deal.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:46 PM
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125. I called Conyers' office |
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and asked him to support Dennis' efforts, because the law and the Constitution are like the human brain or a muscle: use it, or lose it. To allow the crimes to flow under the bridge weakens the foundation of our country.
I hope he hears my message.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:22 PM
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42. 2000 campaign promises ...broken.. Global Warming.. |
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Prooves Bush is a bold face liar.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:26 PM
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:31 PM
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74. not me, but maybe Pelosi. |
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Geez how much clearer can it be spelled out. Thank You Dennis. He makies Pelosi look like a fool.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:44 PM
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:22 PM
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46. He's going over Bush Global Warming Policy |
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Edited on Mon Jun-09-08 10:23 PM by Moochy
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:28 PM
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61. Let Kucinich know that though the House was empty, WE and the rest of the |
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world were listening in awe of his remarkable strength and brilliance as he laid out every offense since Bush ran for office in 2000.
He has spoken honorably for the millions who have suffered from the lies and crimes of GWBush, and those who aided Bush's efforts to overthrow our US Government.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:29 PM
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66. scientists pressured to change scientific findings on global warming..nt |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:30 PM
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68. 9/11!!!! Go Dennis Go! |
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This is such good stuff! Thank you, Dennis!
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:34 PM
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84. Ooooh - I got goosebumps.... |
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Can goosebumps kill ya? I've had them for nearly 3 hours and they just 'peaked'!
Give it to them Dennis - ram it down their fucking throats until they choke!
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:35 PM
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88. But what on earth could the title of that bin Ladin report have meant |
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Failing to protect us from the attacks on 911!
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:33 PM
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79. Here it comes!!!! SAY IT DENNIS.. |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:36 PM
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90. yep, Dennis called him on it - stayed on vacation after hearing threat report! nt |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:39 PM
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bush* was in his brother's state, FL, during the attacks |
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DU has amassed a tremendous amount of info about the events leading up to 9/11 and the events of 9/11. I strongly urge you to drop in the research forum & 9/11 forum and check out the stuff that is there--it will make you weep, scream, and weep some more.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:31 PM
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75. Has something like this ever been done in Congess before?? |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:34 PM
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83. Probably not since Mike Gravel went to read the Pentagon Papers |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:35 PM
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86. first and only cabinet meeting held on sept 4..even tho there was intelligence warning.. |
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wtf..one cabinet meeting on the threat of terror and then he built his lies around it..gheezh..
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:45 PM
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119. bush testified for one hour to the 911 comm with cheney at his side..nt |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:55 PM
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152. not under oath, with no recording devices and only two other persons in the room. |
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Makes you wonder what his problem was, eh? Hiding something perhaps?
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Mon Jun-09-08 11:19 PM
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169. There is footage of Bush right after the interview in the Fahrenheit 9/11 extra features. |
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He's spinning out of control from the amount of self-monitoring he must have had to do to keep his stories straight. He even makes a third-person observation about falling into a reporter's trap. Ghoulish.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:38 PM
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94. Article 34: Obstruction of the investigation of 9/11!!! |
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"...together with the Vice President..."
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:40 PM
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102. He's cutting to the bone. |
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It's incredible to witness.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:39 PM
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95. Obstruction for 9/11 investigations! |
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Obstructed investigations into 9/11 attacks n/t |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:39 PM
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96. How many total articles? |
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105. I've read that there will be 35 |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:40 PM
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101. I Called His Office and Thanked Them |
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106. I called also. His staffer said they are getting quite a few calls, all of them positive! |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:42 PM
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108. talking about Tenet's two briefings of Bush in August |
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Covering the Presidential Daily Briefings...
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:42 PM
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109. All right,you covered your ass now. |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:42 PM
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112. Laying out the crimes in detail..and naming names. |
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They are all named as conspirators of Bush's Impeachable Offenses. And are all on Public Record in their aiding & abetting Bush's crimes. Conspiracy.
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115. It's fan-damn-tastic! |
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159. And this is the brilliance of what Dennis has done. Reading this COMPREHENSIVE list of |
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bush*'s impeachable offenses into the Congressional Record will always ensure the crimes can never be swept under the table. And the research to tie it all together...heh heh heh. Dovetails rather nicely with Scott McClellan's invitation to speak before committee.
And let's not delude ourselves, the Congressional appeasers and collaborators will do everything possible to NOT ACT on these Ariticles. But no matter. This gives a road map of crimes to prosecute AFTER cheney*/bush* is out of power and can't use the power of Presidential pardon.
Wake up America!:kick:
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:45 PM
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120. "All right, you covered your ass now"... |
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He just said it...it's in the record.
This man is a true American hero. I've never seen anything like this before. And I lived through Watergate.
Bush should be arrested as soon as he "de-planes" AF1
What a night.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:45 PM
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122. What could 35 possibly be?? |
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Standing ovation to Rep Dennis Kucinish..this is a beautiful night.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:49 PM
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131. Ahhh yes..endangering health of 9-11 responders.. wreckless |
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Every call-in show should be inundated with callers asking for the discussion of Kucinich's speech tonight. They shoudl be asked until there is a response in Dennis's favor. We want open discussion.
I will start calling tomorrow morn. If they don't take my call...I'll just try again.
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123. 35: Endangering the health of 9/11 first responders |
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9/11-Bush,9/11-Bush...Dammit!Yes!
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130. happened on their watch, Bin Ladin's still out there, and failed the heroes of that day. nt |
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135. close to 4 hours of the best evidence for impeachment ..amazing..nt |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:51 PM
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138. Dennis! He has covered every fucking base! |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:52 PM
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143. There are others in the House with him |
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Lovely. Dennis Kucinich I love you. Sp.
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151. He found a way to get it into the record. |
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:53 PM
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145. so Dennis gave notice of this at 7:12pm tonight? |
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Did anyone know this was coming? http://clerk.house.gov/floorsummary/floor.html7:12 P.M. - NOTIFICATION OF INTENT TO OFFER RESOLUTION - Mr. Kucinich notified the House of his intent to rise to a question of the privileges of the House and to offer a resolution.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:54 PM
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What a great night for America...
Tonight, I feel like an American.
Thank You, Dennis.
What ever happens next, it doesn't matter.
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Mon Jun-09-08 10:55 PM
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150. amazing...i didnt think anyone else was there..it was great..thank you dk..nt |
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Mon Jun-09-08 11:03 PM
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156. I missed the end. Did they show who else was there? eom |
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Mon Jun-09-08 11:09 PM
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162. No. But no matter. I'm sure half of the House is shitting themselves right about now. |
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The liquor is flowing in Foggy Bottom. Thank you Dennis Kucinich!
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Mon Jun-09-08 11:04 PM
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158. Dennis Kucinich: American Patriot |
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Mon Jun-09-08 11:08 PM
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160. Proud Kucinich supporter here! |
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Mon Jun-09-08 11:10 PM
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163. Ditto, my friend! Ditto! |
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When I called his office this evening I asked the staffer to thank him for being an American patriot.
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Mon Jun-09-08 11:24 PM
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173. That was the most beautiful thing I've heard in nearly 8 long years |
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The sound of justice knocking on the door. Rep. Kucinich restored a little of my faith in this country tonight.
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Mon Jun-09-08 11:26 PM
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176. Very much so. Hearing, reading, him go on and on and on. Great to have it all listed so. |
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Mon Jun-09-08 11:29 PM
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178. Yes and in the Congressional Record!!! |
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Seriously, the research bringing it all together is hella impressive. Congressman Kucinich ROCKS!
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Mon Jun-09-08 11:31 PM
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179. Permanent history now, a good reconning of the crimes, so far |
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had to get out my old laptop so I could keep reading (thunderstorms and shut off plugin computer).
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Mon Jun-09-08 11:47 PM
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181. And "permanent" is the operative word here. Kucinich is brilliant. |
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Edited on Mon Jun-09-08 11:49 PM by Raster
Even if Pelosi and the rest of the collaborators and appeasers can't/won't act, the groundwork is laid for the next Congress to pursue this further.
on edit: and yes, cheney*/bush* will be out of office, so impeachment will not be valid. However, what is the statute of limitations for treason and war crimes?
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Mon Jun-09-08 11:54 PM
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183. I think longer than the short time they have left protected as they are. |
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It may take 30 yrs, but he will be gotten.
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Mon Jun-09-08 11:34 PM
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180. Thank you all for blogging what he was saying so I/we could read if not hear it |
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I very much appreciate this fine community in times like this. Thank you all very much for helping me follow along.
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