Parents Rally in Albany Against Forced Vaccination

[Demeter]

Source: email

Parents will rally in Albany, NY on Tuesday, June 10, to protest a vaccine bill (AB10942) that would mandate the 69 doses of 16 vaccines the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) recommends for all children through age 18 plus would automatically mandate all new vaccines federal officials recommend in the future. Sponsored by the NY House Rules Committee at the request of NY State Health Commissioner Richard Daines, provisions in the legislation would force all children to get annual influenza shots as well as force child use of vaccines for sexually transmitted diseases, such as hepatitis B and HPV, without obtaining permission from parents.

The legislation would make unelected physicians, who are appointed to the federal Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) by unelected CDC officials, de facto state lawmakers because CDC recommendations for new vaccine use by all children would be automatically turned into state mandates. Duly elected New York state legislators would no longer be accountable to the people who elected them and could look the other way when federal officials recommend every new vaccine produced by industry for "universal use" by every child born in America.

If New York and other states had already passed this kind of legislation before the poorly tested and highly reactive GARDASIL vaccine was recommended by the CDC in 2006 for universal use by all 11 year old girls, Merck would not have had to spend money mounting a national advertising and lobbying campaign in a failed attempt in 2007 to ram GARDASIL vaccine mandates through state legislatures. (Public health laws, including vaccine laws, are enacted by the states and not by the federal government).

Every new vaccine that industry has created and marketed for children in the last quarter century has been recommended by the CDC for universal use by all children, tripling the numbers of doses of vaccines pediatricians give children. During this same time period, the numbers of children suffering with chronic disease and disability has also tripled with no explanation coming from U.S. public health officials about why so many highly vaccinated children are so sick.


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[TheWraith]

1. I'm afraid there's crazies on all sides here.

While I appreciate that some people don't want to blindly give their kids a bunch of vaccines that they may not even need, at the same time there's people pushing some of the most ludicrous anti-vaccine and anti-medicine nonsense you've ever heard.

[Ilsa]

4. Exactly. There are some things that need to be left in the hands

of responsible parents.

If I as a nurse vaccinate an adult against their will, it is assault. People have the right to refuse most aspects of healthcare.

[bertman]

6. The question is: do parents have the right to refuse that their kids be innoculated

against smallpox, polio, rubella, to name a few?

These diseases were pretty much eradicated due to strong public health policies of inocculation. Are we ready to open up those dreadful disease possibilities again?

I don't know the answer regarding all of the vaccines we're requiring our kids to take but it seems to me that there are some that we might want to keep.

[Ilsa]

14. ITA. There are some that need to be kept with almost 100% compliance.

How they are going about it is a problem for many people. But I think there are a handful of really horrible diseases that we should vax for unless there is strong evidence of physical harm to the child or a pregnant mother of that child.

[AllyCat]

15. That's the problem...there is no "strong" evidence because no testing is done

Who would pay for it? Not the drug companies who are trying to sell their product.

I'm not an anti-vax crazy, but I do have concerns about some of the diseases against which we vaccinate. Hepatitis A is NOT a problem for little kids. There is not one reason we have to give it to little babies. It makes older kids (teens) and adults really sick. Same with varicella (chicken pox). We don't know if vaccinating now will cause problems later. No vaccine works for a lifetime. They all "wear off". Does that leave older teens and adults vulnerable to catching it when it will make them really sick. We just don't know. We do know that getting the disease provides lifelong immunity.

Diphtheria is a horrible disease, but eradicated from all of the globe except a few areas of Africa and Asia. Yet we give kids 3 vaxes against it. Polio is a horrible disease...same issue. The last reported case in the US was in an Amish person who received the oral vax which DID cause some people to get polio.

Mumps occasionally causes deafness, but it is rare. Outside of that, it's annoying and icky, but people recover. Measles causes death in 1 in 1000 cases. It can also cause problems with the brain in rare cases. Rubella causes nothing more than a common cold or mild flu-like symptoms in kids. It's not dangerous at ALL to them. It is dangerous to pregnant women and that is why we vax kids against it. We're protecting school teachers and daycare providers.

H. influenzae B (HIB vax), rotavirus, pertussis, and pneumococcus are really bad for little babies, causing hospitalizations and death. Vaxing this population makes sense up to about the age of two, but after that, it's stupid (okay, maybe pertussis should still be in there). With the exception of pertussis, these vaccines only protect against a few strains. There are 90 strains of pneumococcus but the vaccine only protects against 7. Pc can cause meningitis and ear infections...ear infections are on the RISE right now from other strains of PC that have arisen without the other 7 colonizing people. It's called serotype replacement and is another problem with HIB...it only protects against the B strain, but the others have no vax and are just as bad.

And why on earth are we vaccinating day old babies against Hepatitis B which is acquired from a HepB positive mother, is blood borne, or sexually transmitted? Unless your baby is really bad, there is just no reason to get this until they are older and have more mature immune systems.

I think requiring these vaccines is bad policy. Parents need to be able to decide if the risks outweigh the benefits. Unfortunately, no research is going to be done to show physical harm because we don't want to make the drug companies mad. There are risks to these and the federal government has an adverse event reporting system that tracks them. Vaccines contain a lot of objectionable ingredients such as formaldehyde, Polysorbate, formalin, aluminum, and animal parts (particularly cow). Many of these are carcinogenic (formaldehyde and formalin), cause disease (cow serum), or are neurotoxic (aluminum).

[alarimer]

7. Bullshit. Vaccines save lives.

Too many unvaccinated kids leads to disease outbreaks. They need to be mandatory, no exemptions. If parents do not want to vaccinate, they need to keep their kids out of public schools, public parks, anywhere they could spread disease.

Fuck those ignorant people.

[Kali]

2. ok I'm ready

:popcorn:

[shadowknows69]

3. It's a good thing I don't have kids

Because this is the kind of thing I can see myself getting in trouble over.

[enki23]

9. i agree. it's a good thing you don't have kids

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[shadowknows69]

12. Yeah? And who the fuck are you?

Just for that I think I'll breed.

[Liberal Veteran]

5. 1. This is not a news article. It's a press release.

2. It's a biased press release with more opinion than fact.

[happygoluckytoyou]

8. i'll tell you when to live and i'll tell you how....

i wish people would back off and get out of my life...

really...

if i want to drive without a seatbelt, let me sign a form to accept my own fate, and leave me alone

how about if i get to decide when you can die, smoke, drink, and live
while i'm at it, i think i know when and how you should pray, and what you should pray for
who can you have sex with... and when... and what positions are acceptable

hope you don't mind if i decide how you raise your kids... you know we need more math majors... science too... so little bobby should learn what i want him to... hope you don't mind, but he is eating too much fatty food... for his own good, i'm putting him on a diet... and you're looking a bit flabby as well... probably from too much television... i'll be asking liarman to help regulate that too

glad you don't mind... mostly i'm glad it's okay with you that i get to choose which of these is important to ME, and while i'm at it which are important to you.... by the way, i've decided we don't believe in pro-choice any more... but gun control...ahhh.... let's go with a no on that

WHY DONT YOU MAKE A LIST OF THE 10 THINGS YOU WANT GOVERNMENT TO MONITOR FOR YOU...
..........THEN ASK YOUR NEIGHBOR TO MAKE A LIST...
..............then trade lists and see how you like your new world

[enki23]

10. here's to bullshit analogies:

if i want to drive without a seatbelt, let me sign a form to accept my own fate, and leave me alone

if you want to drive without putting your kid in a car seat, let you sign a form to accept their fate and leave you alone. right?
but even that isn't sufficiently analogous, as you'd only be endangering your *own* child in that scenario.

[Book Lover]

13. You go tell that to the bacteria and viruses making their way into your system

"Hey, back off! I'm sovereign!"

:rofl:

[enki23]

11. this isn't news. it's an advertisement for a gathering of conspiracy theorists

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[JCMach1]

16. exactly