Sundoggy
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Tue Jun-10-08 05:18 PM
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NASCAR racist, sexist: Who could have guessed? |
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/racing/06/10/bc.car.nascar.harassment.ap/index.html?cnn=yesGrant alleged she was referred to as "Nappy Headed Mo" and "Queen Sheba," by co-workers, was often told she worked on "colored people time," and was frightened by one official who routinely made references to the Ku Klux Klan.
In addition, Grant said she was subjected to sexual advances from male co-workers, two of whom allegedly exposed themselves to her, and graphic and lewd jokes.I am shocked. Shocked, I tell you.
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rocktivity
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Tue Jun-10-08 05:23 PM
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I haven't heard stuff like this since I was a kid--FROM kids.
:headbang: rocknation
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Tue Jun-10-08 05:26 PM
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2. Because this only happens in NASCAR right? |
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Maybe you forgot Isiah Thomas? Maybe you forgot that this happens in all kinds of organizations.
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XOKCowboy
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Tue Jun-10-08 05:35 PM
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3. Oh let him go on stereotyping.... |
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It makes 'em feel better.
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Sundoggy
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Tue Jun-10-08 05:36 PM
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5. Deny it all you like... |
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Edited on Tue Jun-10-08 05:40 PM by Sundoggy
...from a fellow born-and-bred Okie.
I grew up with these people. Don't EVEN start trying to snow me about them.
And you know it just as well as I do, so let's not play games here.
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Tue Jun-10-08 07:10 PM
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9. How many NASCAR tracks are there in Oklahoma? |
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How many races have you been to? How many people do you even know that have been to a race? So yes, you're getting snowed on.
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Tue Jun-10-08 07:14 PM
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12. most NASCAR people are from Alabama or the Carolinas |
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The major teams are headquartered near Charlotte.
:shrug:
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Elwood P Dowd
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Tue Jun-10-08 08:36 PM
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Most of the drivers come from outside the southeast. There is not a single NASCAR Sprint Cup driver on the circuit from Alabama and only a few from North Carolina. The crew chiefs and pit crew members come from all over the country. Same for the inspectors and other employees.
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XOKCowboy
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Tue Jun-10-08 09:31 PM
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18. I've moved on from Oklahoma |
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and I know plenty of Nascar fans who are very liberal. Heck even some of my friends back in OK who are Nascar fans have more than 3 teeth and vote Democratic.
Now did this lady experience discrimination? Most likely but I've got a feeling Nascar will quash that too. There's too much money at stake.
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Sundoggy
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Tue Jun-10-08 05:35 PM
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Edited on Tue Jun-10-08 05:38 PM by Sundoggy
Nice try. Actually, pretty lame try, but I like to be polite.
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Tue Jun-10-08 06:15 PM
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8. the Owners of NASCAR contribute to the GOP 100% of the time... |
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Edited on Tue Jun-10-08 06:15 PM by Breeze54
You figure out why they aren't liked so much here.
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Tue Jun-10-08 07:11 PM
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10. Do you watch Keith Olberman? |
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Or listen to Air America? Tell me what you think about their owners.
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Breeze54
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Tue Jun-10-08 08:00 PM
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13. No and No... I do not support any cable/satellite co. |
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And don't act naive. Everyone has seen all the flag waving, GWB loving Nascar people and there are plenty...
I don't think you'll find a lot of AAR or KO rethug fans, do you?
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Tue Jun-10-08 05:55 PM
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6. What she says is most likely true |
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I too grew up in southern culture and I've seen this kind of stuff all my life.
NASCAR attracts the rowdy, crude behavior such as what is alleged
Good to see you Sundoggy!
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Tue Jun-10-08 07:12 PM
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11. I grew up here, too - in the same state as you. |
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And I've found that LOTS of sports attract the rowdy, crude crowd.
It's not limited to NASCAR.
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Tue Jun-10-08 06:11 PM
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7. Quarter billion later... |
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that is a fatty suit. People say lots with that kind of coin in play. Lets see this said under oath.
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Tue Jun-10-08 08:21 PM
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The lawsuit details a series of those alleged incidents:
• Grant was forced to work outside more often than the white male officials because her supervisors believed she couldn't sunburn because she was black.
• While riding in the backseat of her car pool at Talladega Superspeedway, co-workers told her to duck as they passed race fans. "I don't want to start a riot when these fans see a black woman in my car," she claims one official said.
• When packing up a dark garage at Texas Motor Speedway an official told Grant: "Keep smiling and pop your eyes out 'cause we can't see you."
• When she ignored advances from co-workers, Grant was accused of being gay. She also claimed co-workers questioned the sexual orientation of two other female officials.
After her termination, Grant said she went over her notes and recognized "a pattern of retaliation and discrimination."
"It didn't diminish my love for the sport of auto racing, but the job wasn't always the easiest thing to go to every day," she said.
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Tue Jun-10-08 09:27 PM
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17. alleged, very key word here |
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Tue Jun-10-08 09:24 PM
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16. lol....smoeone wants to hit the lawsuit lottery! |
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Tue Jun-10-08 09:31 PM
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19. She can by 2 F-22s, or 10 F-15;s, 4 ICBMs |
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she is in DOD budget dollars...
Reads nice, lets see it under oath.
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Tue Jun-10-08 09:32 PM
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20. Well then, it's obvious |
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The actions of a handful of the people she worked with are obviously indicative of the prevailing attitudes of the tens of millions of NASCAR fans. I'm not a NASCAR fan, but this line of (supposed) reasoning is ludicrous.
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Tue Jun-10-08 09:42 PM
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22. And all of their tens of thousands of employees around the country too |
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They are all deviants, according to the lawsuit, and so are the sponsors and drivers, just perverts. :eyes:
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Rage for Order
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Tue Jun-10-08 10:41 PM
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24. Oh yeah, I forgot about all of them |
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Where do people get this shit? It's akin to saying "Muslims are terrorists: Who could've guessed?" because of the actions of a few Muslims. I guarantee that if you were to post that as the title of an OP on DU it would be locked within minutes, and the OP might even be banned. There would be dozens of replies telling the OP how you can't judge millions of people based on the actions of a few. However, for some reason this tripe is allowed to stay on here and fester since it's directed at those "stupid rednecks who love NASCAR".
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DainBramaged
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Tue Jun-10-08 10:49 PM
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25. I wonder if they include the Toyota drivers, mechanics |
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sponsors, crew members, and shop personal since Toyota is god around here? And since when is it ok for the maker of the almighty Peeus to piss away precious gas racing roundy round with them dumb rednecks of NASCAR?
:sarcasm:
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Tue Jun-10-08 09:37 PM
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Tue Jun-10-08 09:47 PM
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23. I'm not the least bit shocked |
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Living in the heart of Nascar country, just about everyone who professes to love that sport that I know has bigoted and sexist attitudes.
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DainBramaged
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Tue Jun-10-08 10:50 PM
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26. Really? NASCAR country is the entire country |
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Except for a small area in North Carolina, NASCAR is run all over the country, and its drivers and personal are from all over the country, even New Jersey!
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Bono Ritchards
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Wed Jun-11-08 07:11 PM
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The core still seems to be good ol country boys.
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