Richard Clarke's suggestion is better than impeaching Bush

[ProSense]

"We Should Not Let Them Back into Polite Society" - Richard Clarke on GWB and His Cronies

Posted 6/6/2008 8:40 AM CDT

On Countdown last night, Keith went after GWB and his administration over the new Phase 2 Report on Iraq intelligence issued yesterday under chairman Jay Rockefeller. The conclusions reached by this report were vastly different from the Phase 1 report under Republican Senator Pat Roberts, where he essentially stonewalled any serious investigation for over 2 years until the Dems took the Senate in 2006. The report documents the manipulation of intelligence, the distortions, and the outright lies told to the world to whip up a war against a country that had not harmed us and was no threat to us.

In an interview with Keith, Richard Clarke, chief of counter terrorism under Clinton and demoted by GWB, talked about just how egregious the lies and distortions by the Bush administration were in the runup to the war. In his conclusion, Clarke made a startling assertion that I happen to agree with. When asked about repercussions for those who lied, he said that at a minimum, "We should not allow these people back into polite society and give them jobs on university boards and corporate boards and just pretend that nothing happened when there are over 4,000 Americans dead and over 25,000 Americans grievously wounded. They'll carry those wounds and suffer all the rest of their lives. Someone should have to pay, in some way."

Here's the interview in it's entirety:

http://www.chron.com/commons/persona.html?newspaperUserId=eljefebob&plckController=PersonaBlog&plckScript=personaS">Keith Olbermann And Richard Clark

Impeachment is what GWB and Cheney deserved at a minimum. It is way too late for that, obviously, but there should be a public reckoning for those who perpetrated this war based on exaggerated intelligence and outright lies to the American people.

[no_hypocrisy]

1. The Puritan tradition of banishment from the Community.

[LakeSamish706]

2. I love this idea, and we can pass the word to all countries as well....

The only problem with this, is money talks and these thugs have managed to acquire lots of that from the American people.

[EFerrari]

23. Wherever these criminals land, we should open a Peace House

and demonstrate in rolling shifts every day. Some who knows how could apply for grants.

Wouldn't it be cool to be able to give people strip ends to come and protest this criminal? :evilgrin:

[yellowdogintexas]

3. it really would be very cool for them to essentially be blackballed nt

[ProSense]

4. These people enabled war crimes

willfully, exuberantly and defiantly.

[librechik]

5. THE ENTIRE NATION will be shunned

These murderers need to be tried and punished, or we will never be taken seriously as a lawful nation again. THE ENTIRE NATION will be shunned if we don't display our true embrace of the rule of law.

George and Pickles are moving back to Houston. No one will shun them there, quite the opposite.

[ProSense]

8. Trial and punishment included. n/t

[Ganja Ninja]

6. Impeachment isn't going to work until we have a new congress in

place. The next congress should start impeachment proceedings immediately after swearing in with the aim of getting Bush & Cheney out in less than a week.

[papau]

7. The very rich will not allow one of their own to be Blackballed

[ProSense]

12. "The very rich"

could be in for a surprise.

[Johonny]

9. is that what Jail is for

to remove them from polite society?

[bdamomma]

10. they will not be "so free" if they go to Europe, they will be after their a$$es.

if the Europeans went after Rummy and Bolton, they will always be hunted, maybe not by us, but those who do believe in law and justice.

this article about Bolton

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/2044737/John-Bolton-escapes-citizen%27s-arrest-at-Hay-Festival.html?service=print

[spanone]

11. i say impeach and ban them from polite society

[Liberal Gramma]

13. I like indictment at the Hague.

My recurring daydream: George and Dick wearing prison orange.

[Ganja Ninja]

18. The best part of indictment and trial in the Hague is ...

no appeals to the supreme court.

[KansDem]

14. Put them in stocks and throw rotten salmonella-tainted tomatoes at them.

But seriously, we would have to seize their wealth lest they use it to manipulate the way out of the mess they created.

Then put them in prison.

If we don't, they'll just come back again...

[mnhtnbb]

29. I've been saying for a long time (before the salmonella tomatoes) that they should be put in stocks

and have tomatoes thrown at them.

Wouldn't that be a hoot?

[rurallib]

15. There should be criminal charges brought

and they should not be allowed in any countries around the world without fear of arrest.

[Individualist]

16. Impeach, indict, and imprison.

[mopinko]

25. get the button

[Nye Bevan]

17. I don't think that will work

Just like OJ Simpson, chimp will always have plenty of sycophants kissing his ass for the rest of his life. He will always be in a bubble, unaware of and uninterested in the utter contempt he is held in by normal people.

[bdamomma]

19. I want that bubble to pop so badly.

[Larkspur]

20. But Bush can still pardon all his toadies. Only Impeachment denies him the ability to pardon

I don't want Rove, etc to walk scot free because Bush pardons them as he walks out of the White House. They along with Bush must face justice for their crimes.

[mopinko]

26. iirc, he can't. the pardon is not unlimited.

again, iirc, the president cannot pardon accessories to his own crimes.

[zippy890]

21. I like this K & R

:dem:

[ProSense]

27. It's really a good idea, and

all inclusive.

[JHB]

22. Why dou YOU think so? n/t

[madokie]

24. no doubt about that

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

28. I saw the Clarke interview and completely disagree with him on this. You cannot just shun

mass murderers. They have to be brought to trial.