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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 08:10 PM
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The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder **ON MALLOY TONIGHT**
Edited on Thu Jun-12-08 08:11 PM by seemslikeadream
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The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder
Posted by seemslikeadream on Thu Jun-12-08 11:34 AM

Prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi talks about his book, "The Prosecution Of George W. Bush for Murder"

Stephanie Miller Show
http://www.stephaniemiller.com/files/mp3/2008_0609_bugliosi.mp3


http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/contributors/1644

A BUZZFLASH GUEST CONTRIBUTION
by Vincent Bugliosi


(Editor's Note: The following is an excerpt from the book The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder by Vincent Bugliosi)

How has George Bush reacted to the hell he created in Iraq, to the thousands of lives that have been lost in the war, and to the enormous and endless suffering that the survivors of the victims -- their loved ones -- have had to endure?

I've always felt that impressions are very important in life, and other than "first impressions," they are usually right. Why? Because impressions, we know, are formed over a period of time. They are the accumulation of many words and incidents, many or most of which one has forgotten, but which are nonetheless assimilated into the observer's subconscious and thus make their mark. In other words, you forgot the incident, but it added to the impression. "How do you feel about David? Do you feel he's an honest person?" "Yeah, I do." "Why do you say that about him? Can you give me any examples that would cause you to say he's honest?" "No, not really, at least not off the top of my head. But I've known David for over ten years, and my sense is that he's an honest person."

I have a very distinct impression that with the exception of a vagrant tear that may have fallen if he was swept up, in the moment, at an emotional public ceremony for American soldiers who have died in the war, George Bush hasn't suffered at all over the monumental suffering, death, and horror he has caused by plunging this nation into the darkness of the Iraq war, probably never losing a wink of sleep over it. Sure, we often hear from Bush administration sources, or his family, or from Bush himself, about how much he suffers over the loss of American lives in Iraq. But that dog won't run. How do we just about know this is nonsense? Not only because the words he has uttered could never have escaped from his lips if he were suffering, but because no matter how many American soldiers have died on a given day in Iraq (averaging well over two every day), he is always seen with a big smile on his face that same day or the next, and is in good spirits. How would that be possible if he was suffering? For example, the November 3, 2003, morning New York Times front-page headline story was that the previous day in Fallouja, Iraq, insurgents "shot down an American helicopter just outside the city in a bold assault that killed 16 soldiers and wounded 20 others. It was the deadliest attack on American troops since the United States invaded Iraq in March." Yet later in that same day when Bush arrived for a fund-raiser in Birmingham, Alabama, he was smiling broadly, and Mike Allen of the Washington Post wrote that "the President appeared to be in a fabulous mood." This is merely one of hundreds of such observations made about Bush while the brutal war continued in Iraq.

And even when Bush is off camera, we have consistently heard from those who have observed him up close how much he seems to be enjoying himself. When Bush gave up his miles of running several times a week because of knee problems, he took up biking. "He's turned into a bike maniac," said Mark McKinnon in March of 2005, right in the middle of the war. McKinnon, a biking friend of Bush's who was Bush's chief media strategist in his 2004 reelection campaign, also told the New York Times's Elisabeth Bumiller about Bush: "He's as calm and relaxed and confident and happy as I've ever seen him." Happy? Under the horrible circumstances of the war, where Bush's own soldiers are dying violent deaths, how is that even possible?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 08:11 PM
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1. Will be fun
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 09:00 PM
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2. Should be on shortly
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 09:16 PM
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3. He couldn't get anyone to do a audio of the book
Edited on Thu Jun-12-08 09:17 PM by seemslikeadream
U S media is tiring to silence him, no one will have him on TV for interviews about the book
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MikeNearMcChord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 09:18 PM
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4. Listening to the interview, it is disgusting how the media
is trying to shut him up, but despite that, his book is doing good. Make him one of the prosecutors at The Hague!
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 09:19 PM
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5. listening now
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 09:25 PM
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6. Bush took this nation to war on a lie
Edited on Thu Jun-12-08 09:40 PM by seemslikeadream
unclassified version came to be known as White Paper Iraq was not an imminent threat was taken out




motive is not an element of prosecuting a crime



Memo that is Manning memo Jan 31 2003 had to go in to disarm band bush win the oval office with condi after meeting Manny prepared memo bush and blair expressed their doubts wmd would not find talked about 3 ways one of wich fly plane over Iraq

Have you spoken to any procedures I

I will be reaching out around this country in about a week to prosecutors and he will be offering his services


bush can not pardon himself
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 09:45 PM
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7. k&r
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 09:48 PM
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9. Manning memo proves Bush is guilty of murder
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/1/95844/55255/169/526647

Manning memo proves Bush is guilty of murder
by Christian Dem in NC
Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 09:15:49 AM PDT
When I first heard that Vincent Bugliosi was coming out with a new book, The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder, I was skeptical. Granted, there is now a mountain of evidence as high as K2 that this president deliberately lied to us and our elected representatives about the evidence supporting war. For that, he should have been impeached ten times over. However, it took only one piece of evidence out of the avalanche of documentation outlined by Bugliosi to convince me that impeachment is no longer sufficient, and that this president must be tried for murder.

Bugliosi refers to a meeting Bush held on January 31, 2003 with Tony Blair and six of Bush and Blair's top aides to discuss the Iraq issue. According to a memo summarizing the meeting that was written by David Manning (then Blair's foreign policy adviser and later British ambassador to Washington), Bush actually indicated that he was willing to provoke a confrontation with Saddam. This summary has never been disputed by the White House.

Christian Dem in NC's diary :: ::
Among the ways Bush proposed to provoke a confrontation was to paint U2s to look like UN airplanes. The theory was that if Saddam tried to fire on them, it would justify military action. I have to say that in reading this, a chill went down my spine. The image I immediately got was of how Hitler started World War II--with a purported violation of the German border by Poland. SS men disguised as Polish soldiers were to stage a phony attack on a German radio station located right on the border, and leave drugged concentration camp inmates dying as "casualties."

This Manning memo got limited play in the press--it was mentioned only in passing in an NYT front-page story in March 2006. However, even without the plans to use U2 aircraft disguised in UN colors, the memo is absolutely damning and proves that the invasion of Iraq is a criminal act.

But behind closed doors, the president was certain that war was inevitable. During a private two-hour meeting in the Oval Office on Jan. 31, 2003, he made clear to Prime Minister Tony Blair of Britain that he was determined to invade Iraq without the second resolution, or even if international arms inspectors failed to find unconventional weapons, said a confidential memo about the meeting written by Mr. Blair's top foreign policy adviser and reviewed by The New York Times.

"Our diplomatic strategy had to be arranged around the military planning," David Manning, Mr. Blair's chief foreign policy adviser at the time, wrote in the memo that summarized the discussion between Mr. Bush, Mr. Blair and six of their top aides.

"The start date for the military campaign was now penciled in for 10 March," Mr. Manning wrote, paraphrasing the president. "This was when the bombing would begin." (emphasis mine)

It's one thing for a president to mislead his own people about a threat to the nation. But if Bugliosi and this NYT story are to be believed, then the invasion of Iraq is an American war of aggression, and all of the deaths of the American soldiers up to this point amount at the very least to second-degree murder. As Bugliosi puts it in his book:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 09:47 PM
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8. To me the most telling was how difficult it was to get this book
to press.

I know the corpos don't want this out there...
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 09:49 PM
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10. Listening right now. It's been a great interview so far.
I once had Vincent Bugliosi's case against the Supreme Court in my bookmarks but lost it through a few computer crashes. He lays out such a good case for both impeachments it makes me wonder why no one follows up on them.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 09:56 PM
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11. each of the 50 states can prosecute the murder
Whether he would be found guilty or not .........if there is an incompetent prosecutor could be lost


He definitely be prosecuted for murder and conspiracy to commit murder, 93 US attorneys

state level he has researched each of the 50 states can prosecute the murder of any soldier that was killed
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 09:58 PM
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12. Damn he is even giving me reason to go back to school and RUN for DA
:-)

It would give real purpose to my life...
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 10:00 PM
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13. Started listening, then my daughter called.
I'll have to listen to the podcast.

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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 08:21 AM
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14. listening to Mike's podcast now.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 08:22 AM
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15. Thanks for posting
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 08:23 AM
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16. kick
Edited on Fri Jun-13-08 08:26 AM by alyce douglas
try to listen to Mike's podcast if anyone did not hear Prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi.
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