should all media types be left of center?

[ourbluenation]

[BOSSHOG]

1. I agree with Stephen Colbert

Liberalism has a truthiness about it. Conservatives don't give a fuck about the truth, they are agenda driven. Please trolling right wing trash, prove me wrong. You can't and you know it. Lets reinstitute the fairness doctrine and eventually see if limbaugh and hannity can survive flipping burgers. Lets put bush and cheney under oath and start making space in leavenworth.

Two things (at least) conservatives fear - the fairness doctrine and swearing to tell the truth.

Conservative men also "fear" homosexuals but we will save that for another post.

[Canuckistanian]

18. About "truthiness"

The point Colbert was making is that conservatives use a lot of talking points that have "truthiness".

Meaning, it's "sort of the truth". Kind of like "sort of pregnant".

[libnnc]

2. They should all report on important stuff like.....

T O R T U R E





Gen. Taguba: Bush Administration Committed War Crimes

The Army general who first investigated the abuse at Abu Ghraib has accused the Bush administration of committing war crimes. Retired Major General Antonio Taguba made the comment in a new report about US torture practices. Taguba wrote, “The commander in chief and those under him authorized a systematic regime of torture.” Taguba went on to say, “The only question that remains to be answered is whether those who ordered the use of torture will be held to account.” <snip>

http://www.democracynow.org/2008/6/19/headlines#1





Thursday, June 19, 2008
The Great Torture Scandal

McClatchy and other reporters are abruptly pulling the curtain away from the Bush team's illegal practices in arresting people arbitrarily, declining to offer proof that they were guilty of anything, detaining them indefinitely without trial or charges, and deliberately torturing them to the extent of leaving long-term scars and disabilities. The torture practices originated not with lower-level officers but with Donald Rumsfeld and others in Bush's inner circle, who then later blamed lower-level officials for developing the ideas that Rumsfeld ordered them to develop. Nothing they have done has survived a court challenge where one has been permitted.<snip>

http://www.juancole.com/2008/06/great-torture-scandal.html





A Senate investigation has concluded that top Pentagon officials began assembling lists of harsh interrogation techniques in the summer of 2002 for use on detainees at Guantanamo Bay and that those officials later cited memos from field commanders to suggest that the proposals originated far down the chain of command, according to congressional sources briefed on the findings.<snip>

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/16/AR2008061602779.html

[GreenPartyVoter]

3. #2 + part b of #3 please

[JuniperLea]

4. Their political stance should be completely undetectable!

They should be so wrapped up in getting at the truth that you can't tell what way they lean.

[ourbluenation]

5. I agree - but what I see around here is that when they do hold our team's feet to the fire...

the reaction here is that they MUST be wingnuts.

[JuniperLea]

11. I see that a lot too

And I think it's just plain wrong to be that way. Not every single Democrat is worthy of their own salt, and if they are caught doing wrong, their punishment should be the same as anyone else's.

It's all part of that "Yeah TEAM!" mentality... much like that which caused so much ruckus during the primary.

[Oeditpus Rex]

14. And if they do it to the other side

they're "one of the few good journalists left."



Until they do it to us. Then they're Rachel Maddow or something.



:eyes:

[Canuckistanian]

19. AND as long as they don't get fanatical about it

They can use facts, reliable, CREDIBLE sources and show a dispassionate attitude.

After that, whatever happens, happens.

[Lautremont]

6. They should all be left of centre by current American standards.

Then we'll get a realignment back to a sensical political spectrum and the media types can fan out along that as they wish.

But of course everyone's feet should be held to the fire when necessary, no matter what their politics.

[hogwyld]

9. They should be true liberals

and start to crucify all the RW and conservative idiots out there.

[annabanana]

7. The Job of a journalist is to give us as much information as they

can. Who What When Where Why

We can figure out what's going on if we have the facts.

[Selatius]

8. Are facts liberal if many of them happen to support leftists and center-leftists? nt

[ulysses]

10. no, they should all be Moyers.

[Uncle Joe]

13. I believe Moyers is by far the best example of a journalist/interviewer on television, I also

believe this is in large part other than his own natural journalistic integrity and skill, the fact that he's on PBS. He's an excellent listener and asks in depth questions of importance.

As for the O.P. I agree with 2 & 3 but holding their feet to the fire to me means regarding the political leaders' stances on the issues and the issues them selves, not some bullshit trivial nonsense or subliminal slam against a politician of whom the corporate media doesn't like because the political leaders' beliefs' are at odds with the corporate media's own agenda.

[endarkenment]

12. The Corporate Media is Full of Shit

thanks for asking.

[stillcool]

15. All media types...

should be ex-military, ex-GOP public officials, or come up through the Pat Robertson School of Journalism. That would put an end to the confusion.

[AlCzervik]

16. how about accurate?

[TahitiNut]

17. Anyone that CAPITALIZES on the Bill of Rights has a moral obligation to be liberal.

The media rests upon Freedom of Speech. Such a "freedom" includes responsibilities ... most clearly ones covered by slander, libel, and fraud. They use the PUBLIC airwaves and PUBLIC easements (for cable) under a covenant to serve the PUBLIC interests. Anything other than full-throated, honest, and fact-based defense of human liberty and freedoms is immoral.