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Mon Jun-23-08 04:52 PM
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Fox "News": NAACP is registering prisoners to vote!!!!!111 |
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If they are not convicted felons yet they still have voting priveleges and SOME PEOPLE ARE SAYING that the NAACP is going into the prisons to register these people!!!!!!!!!11 This story beoke this morning on Fox and "Friends". Gretchen Carlson was all over it, that Fox "broke" this story, and they are vowing to get to the bottom of it!!!!!!
And so it begins.
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Mon Jun-23-08 04:53 PM
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1. OMFG! VOTERS WILL VOTE1 |
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Edited on Mon Jun-23-08 04:59 PM by sfexpat2000
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Mon Jun-23-08 05:04 PM
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Run for the hills!1
We're all gonna DIE!!!111
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Mon Jun-23-08 04:53 PM
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Just the wingers who watch them spout the lies.
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Mon Jun-23-08 04:55 PM
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3. as the carpenters sang, 'it's only just begun' |
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i expect it from faux...wait till the others get their marching orders
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Mon Jun-23-08 04:55 PM
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4. Fox captive audience. TV in the toilet! |
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Mon Jun-23-08 04:57 PM
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7. WTF??! How does that guy sleep in all that plastic? |
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Mon Jun-23-08 04:58 PM
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8. This one is made to listen to Fox 24/7. |
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Mon Jun-23-08 04:56 PM
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5. McCain needs Fox's help bigtime...They know their GOP days are numbered |
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Mon Jun-23-08 05:08 PM
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15. Fired up. Ready to go! NT |
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Mon Jun-23-08 04:56 PM
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6. They are setting up a justification for the widespread disenfranchisement |
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Mon Jun-23-08 04:58 PM
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that's how they'll try to steal this one. ChoicePoint makes it easy.
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Mon Jun-23-08 05:00 PM
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10. I'd bet the farm on that. BUT, their tactics have been outed |
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so far since 2000 & 2004, I sincerely don't believe they can manage another theft this time.
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Mon Jun-23-08 05:37 PM
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21. maybe in the old slave states. |
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Mon Jun-23-08 05:51 PM
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24. Maybe but we've run down how they do it. |
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There will be a degree of scrutiny they've never undergone before.
We know how it will come down. The real weak link is what we can do with the evidence that we can put together.
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Mon Jun-23-08 05:58 PM
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27. Too often once we get the evidence, the crooks are sworn in. |
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Mon Jun-23-08 06:17 PM
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28. Yes. Absolutely. That will be the test. n/t |
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Mon Jun-23-08 11:45 PM
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29. We would have to find a way of not having to deal with bush's DoJ. |
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They're only pull shit on states with Rep control. It's going to be very difficult for them to screw up Ohio now that Blackwell isn't there.
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Tue Jun-24-08 02:16 AM
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32. Plus there are a lot more people watching now who know what |
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to look for than there were in 2004, let alone, 2000. Vote suppression in swing states, in black, student, military precincts. Via caging, dropping Dem registrants off the rolls, under equipping polling places. Via machine fraud but that will be harder now because there has been a measure of attention to the machines.
That's how they'll try it. Our job is not to let it happen. We're playing chicken with our election. Hoo, boy!
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Tue Jun-24-08 02:08 PM
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42. I'm a Precinct Judge. I am in charge of the voting machines in my |
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precinct. The chain of custody is good, but still there is no voter verified paper trail. That's where the chain breaks down.
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Tue Jun-24-08 03:06 PM
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44. Sure. That and when technicians are called in to fix problems |
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Edited on Tue Jun-24-08 03:58 PM by sfexpat2000
mid-vote.
That happened in MI the night of the Democratic primary. In 20 counties, the machines were counting "uncommitted" as "write in". Some of those machines were re-booted and who knows how many votes were lost that way. The Sec of State didn't want to even admit they did that. When I called, at first they only said they hand counted the ballots once the problem was identified. But as the rep got more relaxed, she said they "re-programmed" during the course of the night.
Some kind of record of tech interaction during the voting period needs to be part of the process. I don't know how many venues have already done that or how many really do keep track.
/oops
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Tue Jun-24-08 03:52 PM
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45. So far our machines (eSlate) have worked well. |
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Mon Jun-23-08 05:00 PM
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11. Why are they still considered a news outlet? |
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Mon Jun-23-08 05:03 PM
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States decide if felons can vote or not. So many of those in prison are likely very eligible to vote.
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Mon Jun-23-08 05:05 PM
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14. Hannity will implode on screen over this and melt like Colonel Dietrich |
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Until your dreams come true. :evilgrin:
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Tue Jun-24-08 02:20 PM
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43. I'd whip out my credit card for a pay-per-view of that!! |
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Mon Jun-23-08 05:09 PM
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16. Good for the NAACP, shame on FOX |
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Anyone who will be legally eligible to vote in November needs to know that they are eligible to vote and they need to get registered. It doesn't matter if they are in prison or not, if they will have the right to vote then it is great that people are informing them of that right.
For FOX news to attack the NAACP for legal voter registration effort reeks of racism, and shows that FOX wants to make sure that eligible voters are disenfranchised.
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Mon Jun-23-08 05:12 PM
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17. Isn't Rove their host? |
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Mon Jun-23-08 05:29 PM
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he's the guy up on the catwalk pulling the strings. :eyes:
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Mon Jun-23-08 05:17 PM
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18. Breaking news, future inmates are now running the wh and Faux |
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Nooze is running interference for them, still, to this day. UNREEL11!!1
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Mon Jun-23-08 05:23 PM
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Mon Jun-23-08 05:40 PM
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22. But surely all of them would be voting for McCain. |
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You know, instead of that arrogant guy from the country club making snide comments.
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Mon Jun-23-08 05:44 PM
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23. If they can legally vote, what's the problem. |
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Maybe I'm not considering the source.
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Mon Jun-23-08 11:53 PM
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30. They can't vote. In fact, even after they've served their time a lot of them are disenfranchised... |
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...forever. That was the basis of Florida's bogus "cleaning" of the voter records before the 2000 election -- they were cleansing the rolls of black voters, most of whom are Democrats. Most of the voters thus disenfranchised were perfectly law-abiding citizens.
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Tue Jun-24-08 05:24 AM
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36. I'm confused. Why can't they vote? They haven't been convicted yet. |
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Edited on Tue Jun-24-08 05:25 AM by Maureen1322
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Tue Jun-24-08 06:00 AM
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38. Apparently FOX is claiming that *prisoners* are being registered. Prisoners by definition are con- |
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Prisoners by definition are convicts, right? So, this is a lie on two counts. First that the NAACP would try registering prisoners for the vote, and second, that prisoners could vote.
What happens in many states is that once a person has been convicted of a felony they lose the right to vote permanently. This sounds terrible -- and it is. I understand the idea of disenfranchising a convicted prisoner -- they lose their civil rights while in prison. But to make that permanent? It seems contrary to the intent of the Constitution.
We all know that young black men are disproportionately likely to have been arrested and convicted of a crime. Behaviors that might be passed off as youthful indiscretions in young white men (possession of pot, a little coke, DUI, disorderly conduct, addiction), which then would cause the judge to redirect the sentence to community service, treatment centers, etc. -- if the arrestee is black, often results in a harsh prison sentence and a permanent felony record.
Under the direction of Katherine Harris (remember her?) Florida hired a right-wing outfit to clean the voter rolls before the 2000 election. Basically they "cleaned" the rolls of black Democrats. If a felon in Texas was named John A. Public and a respectable voter in Florida was named John Q. Public, voila! And they never knew it until they tried to cast their ballot.
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Tue Jun-24-08 06:15 AM
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40. Thanks for the clarification. |
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I have personal experience with the "Justice" system. I know for fact what being white and having a little money will do for you.
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Mon Jun-23-08 05:54 PM
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The Faux company line....
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Tue Jun-24-08 06:18 AM
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41. Is turnabout fair play? |
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Some say that Neil Cavuto enjoys goats.
Some say that Sean Hannity takes it in the rear from his "mandate".
Some say that Bill O'Rielly does odd things with loofas...oh wait that one is true.
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Mon Jun-23-08 05:57 PM
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26. The right wing seems to want less people to be able to vote. |
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They seem very consistent about this. In my opinion, once somebody pays his or her debt to society, he or she should have the right to vote. Why does voting scare the right wing so much?
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Tue Jun-24-08 02:17 AM
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33. Because numbers favor Democrats. n/t |
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Tue Jun-24-08 12:49 AM
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31. In Canada the franchise to vote in a federal election was ruled to |
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be a fundamental right of all Canadians over the age of 18, including prison inmates regardless of the crime committed.
Why shouldn't criminals vote? Criminals run for office every day. Some sit in Parliament.
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Tue Jun-24-08 02:24 AM
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Tue Jun-24-08 02:34 AM
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35. They'll Vote With All The "Illegal Aliens" |
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Yep...sure sounds like the drumbeat for more disenfranchisement is on the way. The racist whisper campaign ramps up another notch as it's not just scary that some black feller is running for President, but that other blacks or minorities will dare vote for him.
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Tue Jun-24-08 05:54 AM
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37. You spelled Faux wrong |
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Tue Jun-24-08 06:03 AM
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39. If they are not convicted felons, they have the right to vote. |
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So why should they not vote? Republicans run their criminals for congress-what's the difference?
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