Has the U.S.A. asserted itself as an "empire" or not?

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

1. I think this is an important question because,...there are many, around the world, who view USA as,.

,...as empire.

Why?

[New Dawn]

2. 800+ US military bases outside of US territory = Empire

There is no other way to describe it.

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

4. But,...aren't we the "models" of those revolutionaries seeking FREEDOM for,...

,..."the people"?

:shrug:

Bah!

Reality sucks and Bill Gates' number ONE of the twelve commandments offered to our youth is: LIFE IS NOT FAIR.

So,...in other words,...THERE IS NO JUSTICE in this 'democracy'.

DUDE!!! GIVE IT UP, ALREADY!!! BE FUCKING REEEAAALLL!!!!

;(

Which is worse: living under the auspice of a complete fiction or the trauma of reality?

:shrug:

The benefactors off the backs of a people seeking "freedom" have chosen the obvious.

[hendo]

8. life is not fair

and democracy is not fair. If you want fair, then you want socialism. Then again, even that isn't fair in the sense that i think you mean it.

[anigbrowl]

14. I demand Fairies!!!

[hendo]

15. I'm gonna sing the doom song now... n/t

[anigbrowl]

16. You don't know how many times a day I have to hold back from linking to Youtube for that.

[stillcool]

3. Absolutely...

probably why all we have left is weapons of mass destruction.
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/
http://www.globalpolicy.org/

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

5. Why?

Why are we allowed to not only possess but also mass produce and SPREAD WMDS?

Why? :shrug:

Have we proven ourselves more responsible with such power?

Have we?

[leftofthedial]

6. capitalists have used the US military, security services and foreign services

to pursue a capitalist international "empire" for over a century now, albeit never more successfully than the last eight (or perhaps thirty) years.

[hendo]

7. 30, more than 8.

the last 8 have hurt the "empire"

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

10. Since the Bush family and their constituents discovered the money offered by war?

Why isn't Richard Perle tracked down as a fucking war criminal?

He actually organized a meeting PRE-IRAQ war about 'investments'.

You know damn well if HE was doing it, all those associated with the Bush and Cheney families were indulging!!!

EW!!! :mad: They should ALL GO TO PRISON!!!! Moreover, they should ALL LOSE THEIR TREASURES!!!

[leftofthedial]

12. there is NO JUSTICE in America

NONE. "Justice" is to morality as trickle-down is to economics. It's a completely false concept. Doesn't exist. Doesn't happen. You get (and get away with) whatever you have the naked power to get (or get away with). Laws are just a mechanism for keeping the underclasses under.

[Solon]

9. At least since the acquisition of Hawaii and then the remaining Spanish Colonies...

after the Spanish-American war. Scratch that, it started well before that, since one of the reasons for the American Revolution was because the British forbade American colonists from expanding West, that was one of the grievances of the war. That's how "Manifest Destiny" got started.

[mikelewis]

11. I'm not sure America can assert itself as an Empire...

The U.S.A is not really the Empire... the Empire is the corporate ideology that has seized the world... like the spread of communism or Nazism, American born corporations have assimilated the population of most of the world and their collective strengths have far out distanced that of this country. They have learned how to slip the bounds of political boundaries and have banded together to work in unison for complete political and social control. The facade that the U.S. is the major power is purely a show to lend respectability to an international band of corporate robber barons. The U.S. cannot assert itself as an empire because we have long ago been conquered by the Empire.

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

13. Okay. We are defeated,...there is no hope. Go shopping. n/t