4 shot in Washington, 3 shot in Chicago, 2 shot in Texas

[villager]

I guess the "celebrations" of the Scalia decision have begun...


http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/1031390,threeshot062908.article

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5862687.html

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/368885_shooting30.html

[sandnsea]

1. 12 year old shot in the face

http://www.nwitimes.com/articles/2008/06/30/news/top_news/doc687dd25dab90890e8625747800143954.txt

I guess she should have had a gun so there could have been an all-out battle in the middle of the street and 20 would have been dead instead. :sarcasm:

I don't think the SCOTUS ruling made any difference in these cases, but it sure doesn't help to push the idea that it's a free for all out there.

[dysfunctional press]

2. so apparently nobody was ever shot before the ruling...?

:shrug:

is that what you're attempting to infer?

[summer borealis]

9. You infer. They imply.

[villager]

15. Infer? Imply? These are news reports. And the number won't be going down.

n/t

[Journeyman]

3. In 2004, the most recent year for which figures are available . . .

an average of about 81 people died everyday from gunfire in the United States. . . .

All told, 29,569 people were killed that year by firearms, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Another 64,389 were injured, about 176 per day.


Unfortunately, no one needed Scalia's permission this weekend to keep on killing.




http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C04E4D9163EF931A15757C0A9619C8B63

[krispos42]

4. 60% of which are suicides n/t

[hokies4ever]

7. Great point

I think that gun control advocates sometimes go a little overboard using statistics to prove their points.

[sharesunited]

10. Easy access = easy death.

[krispos42]

13. Not true

The US male and female suicide rates are one-half to two-thirds less than those European countries that are held up as shining examples of gun-control such as France, Germany, Belgium, etc.

[dsc]

20. do you have any stats to back that up

and any age selected stats. It is well known that many of those European countries permit assisted suicided so their suicide rates (at least the official ones) should be higher than ours for that alone.

[krispos42]

22. Nationmaster.com is an information clearing-house

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_sui_rat_fem-health-suicide-rate-females

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_sui_rat_mal-health-suicide-rate-males

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_sui_rat_mid_age-health-suicide-rate-middle-aged

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_sui_rat_you_fem-health-suicide-rate-young-females

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_sui_rat_you_mal-health-suicide-rate-young-males

[Wcross]

27. Dang, our suicide rate is less than HALF that of Frances.

I don't care if they allow assited suicide or not, people are offing themselves at twice the rate in France.

[dsc]

28. actually my point is that they are calling suicides, suicides

while we are calling them taking too much morphine. That appears to be borne out. In the US young males are actually much more likely to committ suicide than in France, but as you point out overall it is the reverse.

[dsc]

29. thanks but that actually tends to bear out my point

Younger people are more likely to commit suicide here than in France while overall it is the other way around. I suspect much of the difference in rate is attributable to them calling suicides what we are calling natural deaths.

[krispos42]

5. All locations which have not had their gun laws changed by the SCOTUS ruling

So I guess this is the miracle of whatever gun-control laws were in effect.



Funny how the Chicago murders were described as "drug-related" and not "gun-related".

[1Hippiechick]

6. Ppl will think you are serious if you don't add the "sarcasm" smiley to your text!

[Vickers]

8. Were the shots fired from Washington D.C. ?

:shrug:

[texasleo]

11. Dangerous people don't kill people, inanimate objects do.

[villager]

17. Well, first, a flying bullet is scarcely "inanimate," and second, why are you so anxious to make

such non-inanimate objects so easily available to those "dangerous peopple" you cite?

[BigDaddy44]

12. Actually, shouldn't this be the Franklin / Jefferson / Madison / etc. decision?

[villager]

19. Actually, no.

n/t

[TZ]

14. Well I did hear that the gun shops in MD, and VA did brisk business this weekend

Yay for free enterprise...I'm sure the murder rate in DC will drop now...:sarcasm:

[Wcross]

24. They can ONLY sell to residents of their state.

There were NO sales to residents of the District of Columbia. If there were sales to residents of the district they were illegal & should be prosecuted. I am a resident of Tennessee and I can only buy from a FFL IN Tennessee. If I want a gun in Alabama I have to have it shipped to a dealer in Tennessee from whom I can legally buy it.

[undeterred]

16. Every man is a militia unto himself.

[Renew Deal]

18. Apparently the gun ban worked.

:eyes:

[L0oniX]

21. 125 people died today in traffic accidents. We need to ban vehicles.

[depakid]

23. How many people would have died if reasonable regulation weren't in place?

Troyble with the NRA types is that no regulation is reasonable- so your cars would be without seatbelts and airbags (and were for many years, thanks to similar lobbying efforts).

Funny how countries like Australia and Canada don't have all the gun deaths the US does, eh?

[beevul]

31. Thats just not true and you know it.

"Troyble with the NRA types is that no regulation is reasonable"

Show us any significant number of people that disagree with laws prohibiting felons and domestic abusers and dangerous mentally ill people from owning and possessing firearms, or any significant number that are against instant background checks.



You have to know that what you said just isn't true.

[TexasObserver]

26. And there's no second amendment to stop us from doing that!

How can people sit by and let ... CARS ... continue terrorizing this country! You never know when some nut is going to use one to kill a bunch of people.

[Wcross]

25. So before the decision nobody was shot?

Seems to me there is no change at all, criminals have been celebrating for years & years. As a matter of fact in the 80's & 90's they were REALLY celebrating in D.C. as it was the murder capital of the U.S. of A.

[The Straight Story]

30. Breaking over 200 hundred million were not shot

:)

[leftofthedial]

32. Woo hoo!

We got are rats.

[Retired AF Dem]

33. but but but

Handguns are banned in Richard's utopia, how can anyone get shot?