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Darth_Ole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 01:30 AM
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For those who think there's not enough time/votes to impeach Bush, a look back at Clinton's ordeal:
Edited on Sun Jul-13-08 01:33 AM by Darth_Ole
At this moment, Bush has six months left in office. In the House, the Dems have about a thirty seat advantage and the Senate is essentially tied.

First, before comparing the current situation to Clinton's trial, some have said we don't have the votes to impeach Bush. Remember that the only time you need a 2/3 count is to CONVICT him in the Senate. To impeach Bush, the House needs only a simple majority (50% plus 1). Going along strict party lines, the Dems outweigh the GOP.

When impeachment proceedings began against Clinton in 1998, the Reps outnumbered the Dems 228-206 in the House. The two impeachment charges that passed had counts of 228-206 and 221-212. The Senate had 55 Reps and 45 Dems and the two impeachment counts failed along basically party lines.

Here is a timeline of the impeachment proceedings:

Oct. 5, 1998- House Judiciary Committee approves a full inquiry
Dec. 11 and 12, 1998- Articles of impeachment approved
Dec. 19, 1998- Clinton impeached on two of four counts
Jan. 7, 1999- Senate trial begins
Feb. 12, 1999- Trial ends with full acquittal of Clinton

FOUR MONTHS. That's all. Four months between the beginning of the House inquiry and the end of the trial. Many have the misconception that it's necessarily a long, drawn-out, futile process. And the evidence is already there. Bush has six months left in office. That's more than enough time to impeach and convict. As long as Bush can attack Iran and order POW's to be tortured, there's time to impeach.

We have the votes in the House. Getting the Senate to convict is the real challenge.

It starts with the judiciary committee approving these articles, so we have to put pressure on them, folks. Below is the list of members of the judiciary committee. I know at least Wexler, Waters, and Ellison are sympathetic to the impeachment movement. Call, write, e-mail, or simply pester everyone on this list, especially Conyers since he is the chairman. Do it today! We can do this, everyone.

Democrats:

John Conyers, (Chairman), Michigan
Howard L. Berman, California
Rick Boucher, Virginia
Jerrold Nadler, New York
Robert C. Scott, Virginia
Mel Watt, North Carolina
Zoe Lofgren, California
Sheila Jackson-Lee, Texas
Maxine Waters, California
Bill Delahunt, Massachusetts
Robert Wexler, Florida
Linda T. Sánchez, California
Steve Cohen, Tennessee
Hank Johnson, Georgia
Betty Sutton, Ohio
Luis Gutierrez, Illinois
Brad Sherman, California
Anthony D. Weiner, New York
Adam B. Schiff, California
Artur Davis, Alabama
Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Florida
Keith Ellison, Minnesota
Tammy Baldwin, Wisconsin

Republicans:

Lamar S. Smith, (Ranking Member), Texas
Jim Sensenbrenner, Wisconsin
Howard Coble, North Carolina
Elton Gallegly, California
Bob Goodlatte, Virginia
Steve Chabot, Ohio
Dan Lungren, California
Chris Cannon, Utah
Ric Keller, Florida
Darrell Issa, California
Mike Pence, Indiana
Randy Forbes, Virginia
Steve King, Iowa
Tom Feeney, Florida
Trent Franks, Arizona
Louie Gohmert, Texas
Jim Jordan, Ohio
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 01:37 AM
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Big dif:
The Republicans were spearheading this and their people all fell in line.

And then there's us.....
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 01:37 AM
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1. What is there to inquire about?
The evidence is already out there and every last one of them knows the score. I believe the latest petition from Kucinich has ONE article. How long could it take to hold hearings on that? The evidence is out there and has been rehashed over and over. Conyers knows it forwards and backwards. They should get a friggin WEEK to get through it.

And we're just talking about indicting this guy.

The Senate needs 2/3rds. I'm sure they can rustle up a dozen or so Rethugs who are currently in the process of trying to save their asses in their home states to convict.

I would prefer both Cheney and Bush be impeached at the same time. Both are worthless.
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 01:49 AM
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2. It wd be worth it even if only to slightly preoccupy them & slow the damage. nt
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