What the Democratic Party stands for ?

[kentuck]

Or what it does not stand for? Take your choice.

[ReverendDeuce]

1. Umm... multiple choice?

Lots of good answers there.

[MuseRider]

2. No clue.

I'll be damned if I know anymore. I guess I would say that they stand for whatever gets them elected. Lovely thought, huh?

[XemaSab]

3. 1, 3, and 6

sound pretty good to me. :D

[Liberal Veteran]

4. Panda Bears and kittens!

:D

[Hydra]

5. I honestly don't know

But the consistent thing the party stands for is "Not for our base, but for our our sponsors."

[ulysses]

6. it has no idea.

I don't either.

[sui generis]

7. uh - little bias perhaps?

"rights of all working people"

What we say and what we do are two completely different animals. In fact what we do is a vegetable.

I choose to believe that we are for the health, welfare and pursuit of happiness of all Americans, that we put the rights of individuals above the rights of collectives and corporate entities, and that we are FOR responsibility.

All the class arguments you made up there are disturbing, whether done with gentle sarcasm or not.

If you hate racism you have to stop acknowledging race. When we play special cards for "classes", ANY class, we are classist. Caste systems are unAmerican.

[kentuck]

9. You don't believe in class warfare ?

And you don't believe the wealthy class are kicking the asses of us at the bottom??

[sui generis]

11. no suh I do not

I stand behind my argument. If you play the class card and they're kicking your ass, Occams razor says you will lose that card game.

If we don't stand for ALL Americans, I don't want to be a democrat.

[kentuck]

12. So, do you think the other Party stands for all Americans??

How do you fight that? After they have stuck it to all of us, I can't believe your position. But I do understand you are not alone in the Party.

[sui generis]

13. but Kentuck, the question you asked was

what do WE stand for. We can't define ourselves by the other party. In fact the "money" and influence is NOT in the middle class, as you have pointed out.

If you tell some Americans you don't plan on treating them ethically because they make more money than other Americans, you're telling me we're not much better than the republicans. Our tyranny just benefits someone else.

If you have a choice don't be a tyrant, not even a "benevolent" one. Democrats have to stand for a shining idea, for fairness, for inclusion, for everyone. That is what differentiates us from the other party.

Republicans stand for commerce at the expense of individuals. We have to be better than that. We have to stand for individuals without reference to class, color, or creed.

[kentuck]

14. I was responding to your comment:

"If we don't stand for ALL Americans, I don't want to be a democrat."

No, I don't stand for these greedy, criminal bastards. Sorry.

[readmoreoften]

16. Wait? So we have to stand for those who exploit the working class and profit from their labor?

So if we don't stand for Donald Trump or union bashing executives, then we don't stand for "all Americans"? This is as bogus as saying that Democrats need to "stand for" fundamentalist Christians by protecting their interests as much as they "stand for" LGBT people.

The sheer fact is: those who do not work or manage, those who earn their income SOLELY from capital investment have gotten their money from either directly cheating the working class (stock goes up when pay goes down and unions are busted) or through their mommies and daddies or grand mommies and daddies who cheated their workers in the past.

The argument that poor people are just lazy or lack intelligence or initiative is inherently racist, sexist, and homophobic. The fact that a larger percentage of blacks, latinos, and Native Americans are poor isn't because they're less motivated. It's because their land and labor has been stolen. LGBT people have had their property confiscated by heterosexual relatives for generations. Those who came over as immigrants still earn less as a whole than the great-great grand children of WASP bankers.

The Democrats do stand for "all Americans". They stand for the interests of fundies and gays, the rich and the working class, the warmongers and the peacemakers. And that's why they stand for nothing at all. And that's why we lose.

[mitchtv]

8. It stands for getting re-elected

little more

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

10. It stands for attaining power. See Lord Acton's axiom for what happens when it does.

For those that aren't familiar with it..

"Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely."

Which is true of any political party.

[Canuckistanian]

15. The National Anthem

Bah-da-boom!

Thank you. No, please. I'm here til Tuesday.

Try the brisket!