Weird BBC newscast

[Joe Chi Minh]

Source: BBC TV

At the moment, I'm watching and listening to a live broadcast of Barak Obama speaking to a massive crowd of the German people. But here is what is staggering. In the lead-up to it, the newcaster - I didn't get his name - was saying that in the US, McCain was very popular!!! And this was the BBC - not Fox, not CNN, the BBC! It seems clear that the BBC has suborned - reminiscent of the live newscast with the 3rd tower seen through a window in the background, collapsing just after the newscaster reported it as having already occurred.



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Well, I know all channels demonstrate a kind of heterogenous content from time to time, and the BBC showed little more integrity, if any, during the Clinton persecution, but this character's depiction of the reality on the ground in the US was laughable beyond belief. He was characterising McCain as "a safe pair of hands", with impressive experience, etc. If Obama were to win, it would be a close call, etc - that kind of thing.

Now, I've just spotted above among the five most recent posts in Latest Breaking News, "Poll: Sharp reversal" for Obama with Latino voters".

It seems to me that all this indicates that the noise-machine is up and running and in overdrive, pending election fraud by the neocons on a large scale.

[stray cat]

1. so far the polls are close in the US compared to the difference in Europe

[DrZeeLit]

26. Polls? Who's running all the polls? You think they have no agenda? Hmmmm

Agenda: Keep the "data" close
Agenda: Keep our polling gig for another 3 months
Agenda: Lots of t.v. time
Agenda: More polling, more money

Do you think the polls are telling the truth?
What would happen if they poll and tell us it's already a landslide?

I don't trust polling.

[annabanana]

2. Odd thing, for a day when Barak's numbers with Latinos has just been

shown to be very very good indeed.. Like 66 - 33%

[Joe Chi Minh]

4. What do you mean 66 - 33%, Anna?

[elehhhhna]

66% Obama, 33% McIdjit

[BryMan]

23. Uhmm no

66% Obama 23% McLame....not 33% you are giving gramps too much credit LOL.

[Joe Chi Minh]

28. Ha Ha. You're kidding. But surely not, on reflection. Annabanana are you engaging in

damage limitation for the dark side?

[elehhhhna]

33. OOPSIE. Cool!

[Joe Chi Minh]

27. Tee hee chortle chortle. As ever they are totally without shame.

Worldly power is all.

[redqueen]

3. The BBC is not so different.

They ran with the US's lies about the coup in Venezuela just like all the other M$M outlets.

[truebrit71]

6. Not true at all....as a news organisation it is unrivalled in the world...

..

[redqueen]

10. Yeah, so what if they go along with lies. (nt)

[truebrit71]

14. Yeah so what if they do proper investigative journalism...just like their US counterparts...oh wait.

...:eyes:

[redqueen]

16. They have their good points. They still catapult propaganda.

No reason to pretend the entire organization is a bastion of integrity.

[truebrit71]

19. Oh, they have had their wrists deservedly slapped from time to time...

...but I would trust a BBC newsbroadcast exactly 99.99% of the time over a US news broadcast...

[redqueen]

20. Oh yes... they're nowhere near as bad

but certainly undeserving of the complete trust that most Americans seem to be willing to grant them.



on edit: so my choice of words was poor when I said "no different"... should have been "not so different". Oops.

[Joe Chi Minh]

15. What's your explanation - non-chauvinistically-speaking, truebrit71?

[truebrit71]

18. ..Explanation for what?

...Matt Frei's comment about Crash McPlane? Other than the fact that, for whatever reason, Grandpa does have his fans in the US, Matt Frei has always bent over backwards to appease (yes I said 'appease') those that are not left of centre...

I personally don't like his style, he is far too smug and self-satisfied for my liking, but I don't count him as one of the many, many well-paid presstitutes in the US M$M...

[Joe Chi Minh]

25. "Grandpa does have his fans in the US" scarcely covers it, does it. I mean that was an unequivocal

and monumental lie. McCain's popularity with the population at large is minuscule - even according to the polls, which nevertheless, as usual in relation to a Republican these days, are working intensively on damage LIMITATION. Another example: It's difficult to believe that the figure of 28% in favour of Bush is not the wildest of exaggerations - of his popularity. It would be much lower.

But it's not just this. Wherever US and European politics are concerned, they have a strong bias for towards the right. That stuff about the BBC being full of lefties is utter rubbish, at least in the matter of economics.

[truebrit71]

31. Now THAT is a bunch of bollocks...

...

[Joe Chi Minh]

7. I fear you're right. I've seen it so often too. I don't know why I still nurture this

anachronistic idea that it tended to be superior to the commercial channels in relation to politics. I seem to remember their being strongly pro Sarkozy.

[redqueen]

13. Yes

It's hard to let go of the impression that they're all that different from the M$M here.

They're more careful, sure...

[truebrit71]

5. Matt Frei maybe?

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[Joe Chi Minh]

8. I expect you're right. I'l see if it's mentioned on their website.

[malaise]

9. Tell BBC to check all the polls n/t

[redqueen]

11. They know. (nt)

[Joe Chi Minh]

12. I'll do that.

[Greyhound]

17. Corporate conditioning does not "end at the water's edge". n/t

[Supersedeas]

22. there's the rub

[WritersBlock]

21. "They don't seem to realize he's *only* a presidential contender."

That was the statement the anchor made as we were watching scenes of Obama being surrounded by supporters, cheered, and applauded.

Condescending, sarcastic little twit.


The BBC is not impartial. Not by a long shot, and not for a long time.

[WHAT]

24. When they're not ululating over Zimbabwe...

scamming Eastern Europe...
propping-up their banks...
pointing at the United States...

garroting sovereignty...

[Joe Chi Minh]

29. You know there's something about our corporatism in the UK which incenses

me to an extent dangerous to my health. And yet, in itself, it's a small thing. It's the necessity to use certain telephone-number prefixes which mean that even if you are enquiring about a purchase, you are paying the company for the privilege of doing so. Also, worse, if that's possible, government departments also give out contact numbers of the same exploitative kind, to supplement the often massive black holes in their budgets, due to underfunding.

Fortunately, there is a website giving out the corresponding geographical numbers of the bodies in question, so if you use the site, you seldom have to pay. But you can see the priniciple. Companies are always under enormous presure to maximise their profits for the benefit of their shareholders and Board. What Will Hutton, in his fascinating non-fiction best-seller, The State We're In, describes as our "rentier" economy - the wholesale subjugation of the nation's interests to the independently wealthy.

Oddly enough, it is only converting the country into the conventional embodiment of the habitual mindset of the monied classes: the nation is co-terminous with themselves. To all positive intents and purposes the poorer folk don't exist. Negatively, however, beyond their worth as a profit unit, they are a liability, their most basic needs to be catered for as cheaply and meanly as possible.

[hedgehog]

30. I think all the stories from the British media have been a little off base

this entire election season. Who was it that said that "England and America are two countries separated by a common tongue"? There is no exact correlation between our Democratic and Republican parties and their Labour and Conservative Parties, not to mention the Liberal Party. Still, you can tell that the British commentators try to interpret our politics through that lens.

[Joe Chi Minh]

32. Oh, the Tories, and now New Labour are corporatists through and through;

but the Tories are much more like the Republicans in that they lack all cunning, and today, any vestige of Christian decency.

They were alway a vicious party, but after WWII, they went through an aberrant, delinquent period, during which they concurred with the then Labour party, so-called Old Labour, in the belief that we were one nation, and as such, we had common interests in the welfare of the country as a whole, in terms of its material infrastructure, but even more, in terms of its social infrastructure. In other words, that the term, "welfare state" is really a kind of tautology. No State worthy of the name marginalised a section of the population. There were still rich and poor, but the poor could earn a living wage, have a disposable income, and a pension. The NHS and education sytem were not increasingly starved of funds, but quite the reverse - they had an ample sufficiency, certainly in comparison with the UK before Thatcher.

New Labour are even more vile, depraved and sinsister (doesn't have to be sexual) because, normally (though Brown is a clown, and makes massive blunders) more subtle in their predatory corporatist misgovernment.

[Joe Chi Minh]

34. This was my compaint to the BBC: "Dear Sir or Madam, I have just been watching

a live newscast from, I think, Berlin, on what seems to have been the 6 o'clock News or an extension of it. However, in the lead-up to it, the newscaster - someone on DU said it might have been a Matt Frei, totally misrepresented McCain's extraordinary unpopularity in the US as great popularity. Yes, even according to the polls. There are limits to what even they can get away with over there.

The fact is that Obama is as popular in the US as he is elsewhere - including Germany. Certainly close to it. Why wouldn't he be? McCain would be a continuation of Bush. The US would continue to haemorrhage servicemen's lives and trillions of dollars indefinitely, putting the US and the West at ever greater risk from Middle East-sponsored terrorism. He's also an under-achiever comparable with Bush. He's not smart. Just feels "entitled" like the Republicans generally - and the Tories wistfully. I don't know that there's much point in replying because it seems likely that the decision to wheel out his nibs and permit that absolute degree of bias was made at a higher level still.