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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 09:46 AM
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We are witnessing the 'dismantling of the Republican Party'....
Right wing conservative fundamentalists are deserting the Republican Party. Too many candidates for president who do not fill their ticket on social morality issues.

Fiscal conservatives are astounded at the spending that has occurred under this Administration.

Those on the margins who voted Republican because they expected to benefit from a trickle down effect are disillusioned.

Universal rejection of this War in Iraq, and Bush's refusal to consider any kind of plan to withdraw.

Corruption leaks out more and more every day in Congressional Hearings, which will continue for as long as Bush is in office.

And Karl Rove no longer has the 'magic' to bring together all these natural enemies.

The Republican Party is imploding right before our eyes, even though they still virtually control the MSM. With the Libby trial it is now apparent that some corruption cannot be overlooked and the American people do eventually wake up.

Look around and you see fewer Bush bumper stickers, and long time 'Bush backers' are hard to find.

THere is a change afoot in this country born out by a 29% approval rating for Bush, and 23% approval handling of the War.

It took a long time, but the wind has changed direction ..... and Bush Republicans are hard to find.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 09:49 AM
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1. They just about took the entire country down with them.
When Rome falls, everybody feels it.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 09:49 AM
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2. And to prove your point
limbaugh said that the libby verdict will only make conservatives and the republican party stronger then ever. I can't figure out whether it is the drugs or a directive to say that from his boss, rove.
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jollyreaper2112 Donating Member (955 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 09:50 AM
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3. oh, you tease
Don't get my hopes up until it's really going down. Don't tell me it's Christmas when it's still July.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 09:50 AM
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4. You are absolutely right
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 09:54 AM
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5. Well, here's your hat & what's your hurry? Good riddance, if it turns out
that the Republican Party is dismantling. They have a lot of cash in the kitty, so I'm not seeing it dissolve all that soon, but how nice it would be to be wrong on that count.

Certainly it has offered us very little along the lines of public service since the 2nd World War, with each new decade since worse than the one prior, and the first not that great to begin with.

Easy-does-it Eisenhower. Tricky Dick Nixon. Buzz Lukens. Earl Landgrieb. John Connally. Dan Quayle. Ronald Reagan and his ilk. Brainless Bob Dole. THE CAT BUTCHER. Tom Delay. Jim Inhofe. Ted Stevens. Rick Santorum.

And a thousand other far-right morons with money.

It's a political party that needs to shape up or ship out.

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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 09:55 AM
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6. Yes we are and we owe it all to George W Bush.
Something to think about when we ask why the Democrats aren't impeaching him already.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 10:02 AM
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7. Not wanting to sound conspiratorial, but this has placed us all in great danger...
When the corrupt realize that they are losing control of the levers of power they used to carry out their nefarious plans and to defend themselves from attack, they usually have a fall-back plan to avert losing those powers.

As it becomes evident that Republicans will not just lose in 2008, but be swept from power in such numbers that Democrats will likely have control of Congress and the White House, it may spark the implementation of a plan which includes starting a new war, and declaring 'martial law' in this country --thereby suspending elections.

It seems to far out for most people to even consider today, but that scenario could very well come to pass with the help of corporate backing and domestic mercenary forces supplied by Blackwater-type groups.

The big question is will the military remain loyal to the corrupt holders of office or will they stand up to unlawful orders and defend the Constitution in such a time.
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 11:35 AM
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24. In that case, "Remember, remember, the 5th of November..."
You bet your ass.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 10:02 AM
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8. Per Gallup, "70% of Republicans approve of Bush's job performance"
Edited on Thu Mar-08-07 10:04 AM by emulatorloo
So I really am not so sure that the Republican party is imploding yet -- a lot of Republicans still seem to be in denial.

(Which explains to me why the Repubs in congress are still carrying water for Bush and refusing to allow anything to happen on Iraq)

(same poll shows his overall approval rating @ 33%)

http://www.galluppoll.com/content/default.aspx?ci=26794
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 10:12 AM
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12. that's 70% of those still aboard
70% of an ever shrinking number.

:-)
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 10:16 AM
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13. But when they finally jump...
it will be sudden and en masse.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 08:14 PM
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27. they've been jumping for years
how else do they come up with the final statistic that 30% of the American people approve
of Bush, the pool of republicans is shrinking like a shallow pool, if their total is part
of the 30% base, then they are way down.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 10:04 AM
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9. Deservedly so...
Greed and corruption has run rampant throughout the Party. They've shamelessly used and abused people and tossed them by the side of the road all in the name of power. They entrusted their leadership to shameless psychopaths who care about nothing but serving their own interests. They've trashed our constitution and sold the middle class down the river. It will take years to climb out of the hole of self-destruction they've created. Good riddance assholes, I hope you wallow in your own ashes for a long time.
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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 10:05 AM
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10. Well, until it can be shrunk down and drown in a bath tub we should
be vigilant and on guard.

This party is like rats. Just when you think you have gotten rid of them they regroup, plan and then come out in the middle of the night to do their nasty work. The Republic Party mentors, encourages and sponsors people like KKKarl. They encourage and reward people who have no regard for the Bill of Rights, the Constitution or our system of laws. They have a whole new generation of liars, cheats and thieves being groomed as we speak. They are down today but never doubt they will come back meaner, nastier and more hypocritical than ever.

Apologies to rats for the analogy - even they aren't as bad as a Republic.
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 10:11 AM
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11. Rats bad Rap
Rats did not chose to be rats.

Republicans, on the other hand, chose to be rats.

IMPEACH NOW! PROSECUTE NOW! UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION NOW!


-85% Jimmy
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 10:21 AM
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14. Don't I wish.
Keep in mind that in the lead-up to the 2004 election, many people said they'd voted for Bush in 2000, but sure as heck weren't going to vote for him now. And I never, ever heard of anyone saying the opposite (they'd voted for Gore in 2000 but so admired and respected Bush that they were now in his camp). Bush's approval rating was below 50% going into the election. And yet, he won! Okay, I know that the election was actually stolen, but nonetheless he remained in office.

To me the real surprise was how well Democrats did last November. Maybe that's a sign that the imbalance was so great they simply couldn't steal enough votes to stop the Democratic take-over.

Notice that the mainstream media is still overwhelmingly right-wing, acting as if only a tiny minority of malcontents oppose the war, dislike Bush, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. One truly unfortunate thing about DU is that here we are basically preaching to the saved, and even the odd troll doesn't matter. We are not really changing anyone's minds, we are not really part of the mainstream.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 10:25 AM
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15. They'll just crawl back into their dark, rank rat holes and regroup.
Passing the time by doing what they do best when Dems are in power. Domestic terrorism.
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 11:04 AM
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22. We'll have to smoke 'em out...Heheh.
I don't plan on letting up on * when he leaves office. We need to continue fighting.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 10:43 AM
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16. Their problem will be immediately fixed next Monday
when Hagel announces.
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Rydz777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 10:47 AM
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17. Whigs
The Republican Party is the heir to the Whig Party, and I think they will go the way of the Whigs. The one-time "Reagan Democrats" are fast coming home to the Democratic Party as they watch their jobs shipped off to China in the name of "free trade." The Republicans now are basically an uneasy alliance between what Chuck Schumer calls "the economic royalists" and the erstwhile Dixiecrats. The Dixiecrats were/are socially conservative but fully supportive of New Deal initiatives that helped the Souithern economy. When they start voting their economic interests again, the Republican Party will collapse into its natural home, the country club.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 10:51 AM
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18. Maybe they'll ...
impeach Bush/Cheney first.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 10:58 AM
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19. This is a minor blip for them, I think
If causing the Great Depression that started in 1929 and then supporting Hitler & Mussolini throughout the 1930s didn't kill them, I don't know what will.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 10:59 AM
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20. Or the democratic party.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 11:02 AM
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21. You're right
Last night a REpublican friend said Al Gore look about the best for the coming election. Another die hard republican was sickin' by Libby. They've lost their core fiscal conservative for sure. 6 years of bland economic growth will do that.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 11:25 AM
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23. They got their money...time to go back in hiding
I do not believe the Republicans are about governing.

What we have is a front organization backed by those that have identified and targeted wealth, things of value or areas of power they move to steal: S&L Scam, Wars for Oil, War for Profiteers, draining the Treasury, laws to protect egregious abuses by Credit Card companies all take in tons of money. They know it lasts for a short time until the public catches on or the wealth is gone (usually into their pockets).

Then they fade back into hiding until the gullible Freeper types are once again called to run flak as the next big scam is played out. Every fifteen years or so seems to be the cycle.
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 11:50 AM
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25. Exactly right.
Edited on Thu Mar-08-07 11:50 AM by Opposite Reaction
The concentrated wealth is the key.



edit to add: concentrated
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jollyreaper2112 Donating Member (955 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 02:18 PM
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26. GOP=Valujet?
Here's a thought. When Valujet dumped a jet into the Everglades, everybody was bagging on them. they changed their name to AirTran Airways and nobody can remember they were Valuejet. Hell, I forget they're Airtran so I always look it up before I buy tickets just to make sure I don't go with them. Look at Arthur Andersen, they went and changed their name to Accenture.

I predict that the Republican name could be finished. If that is the case, the rats will just scurry along to a new party and get up to their same old tricks.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 08:32 PM
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31. Another intersting example, this time from the video game industry: Infogrames Interactive.
After their strategy games Civilization III and Masters of Orion III ended up being disasters they became villfied by the gaming community for it they bought Atari and then changed their name to Atari...
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 08:17 PM
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28. They may split up, but they won't go away
It may affect their power. We may end up with a multi-party system out of this eventually. If we do though, we'll have a Corporatist party that has all the media backing, just like we do now.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 08:19 PM
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29. But where will they go?
I know this is what the neo-cons have counted on, that the paleocons and the RR have no place else to go, but it's sort of true. So, I'll believe it after the next election.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 08:19 PM
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30. The coalition the Republics have been relying on for so long
has been an unholy alliance indeed. The party of Reagan, indeed.
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