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Tue Jul-29-08 05:35 AM
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Are neo con icons inciting violence against liberals, yes or no? |
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Are they putting ideas into the heads of the small percentage of unstable individuals to deliberately send them over the edge into violent action, or am I just paranoid again?
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Tue Jul-29-08 05:36 AM
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1. I say yes... An increase in anti-liberal violence is the necessary |
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next step in the imposition of the lock-down state.
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Tue Jul-29-08 05:39 AM
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Some of them, Michael Reagan for example, say both to kill liberals and blame liberals for all of life's problems.
No doubt there will be a wacko who will take that to heart once in a while.
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Tue Jul-29-08 05:39 AM
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3. Yes, they are inciting violence against everyone. n/t |
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Tue Jul-29-08 05:49 AM
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4. "Godless: The Church of Liberalism"; "Liberalism Is a Mental Disorder"... |
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"Deliver Us from Evil: Defeating Terrorism, Despotism, and Liberalism" "Persecution: How Liberals Are Waging War Against Christianity" "Bankrupt: The Intellectual and Moral Bankruptcy of Today's Democratic Party" "Treason: Liberal Treachery from the Cold War to the War on Terrorism"
Before the hate radio is turned on, before Fox begins its daily barriage of propaganda, a quick trip down the virtual aisles of amazon or B&N reveals the fomenting of anger and resentment that the right wing has been working on for decades now.
And that's THE one common emotion that right wingers share -- impotent anger. Anger directed at liberals, at immigrants, at gays, at public schools, at just about any entity but themselves. In the right-wing mind, it's always someone else's fault: "Those ___________ are stealing my ___________." "If it weren't for those damned _________, this'd be a good country." "Don't believe that ________________ trash, they'll say anything to protect their _____________."
Ann Coulter has many times said, "Imagine a world without liberals." You don't have to be a genius to figure out where talk like that's going to lead.
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Tue Jul-29-08 08:21 AM
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the "Personal Responsibility and Accountability" section.
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Tue Jul-29-08 05:51 AM
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5. Whatever gave you THAT idea? |
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Tue Jul-29-08 05:52 AM
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6. Of Course They Are, That's Part of the Plan |
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How else can the Man get his Tools for Free?
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Tue Jul-29-08 05:54 AM
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7. Are you surprised by this same group of people who respect and |
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support George W Bush and Dick Cheney? Two selfish evil men who lied over and over and made up fake reasons to start a war in Iraq in which thousands have been killed and wounded.
These supporters of the neocons won't EVER do any of the fighting or the risk taking themselves, but they are always looking for someone that they can fool and USE. There is a fool born every minute and people like the neocons count on that. Some of these Bushbots believe EVERYTHING the top dogs say without question. Like the "Good Nazis" once did.
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Tue Jul-29-08 05:57 AM
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and to be honest I wish they would turn on their masters because THEY weren't 'consurvativ enuf'. one of these nut jobs going after the gopers in congress, and you'd see the 2nd amendment go away real fast! Not that I'm for restricting any of our liberties, but maybe then these brain dead sheep would wake up!
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Tue Jul-29-08 06:02 AM
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Goebbels and the Nazi Party would send their messages constantly to Members. And their plan was to incite violence by "the masses" versus government directive. So, a Jewish shop would be attacked, destroyed by a mob and the government would proclaim it was the work of "angry Germans" whose anger was justified. The Jewish shop owner who had insurance would be denied payment for his losses.
Individuals would also be attacked by "angry Germans".
Unless the tone of rightwing hate radio/TV is balanced, critiqued, condemned, more of the UU shootings may well occur.
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Tue Jul-29-08 06:06 AM
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Tue Jul-29-08 06:23 AM
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11. Yep... thanks to Rush et. al. they've been making threats |
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successfully for years sans any semblance of accountability.
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Tue Jul-29-08 07:08 AM
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They know exactly what they are saying and they know the effect that it will have on the more unstable members of their target audience. They intentionally sow the seeds of hatred and rage.
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Tue Jul-29-08 07:09 AM
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Tue Jul-29-08 07:11 AM
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14. Just because you think they are out to get you does not mean they aren't |
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To answer your question though I would say yes but that is only based on what I read here as I don't listen to any of them at all.
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Tue Jul-29-08 07:12 AM
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15. Yes. Fear, Intimidation, Violence, Torture - Halmarks of Republican Ideals |
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Oh, and MASSIVE, CRUSHING, debt. Forgot that one.
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Tue Jul-29-08 07:13 AM
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Their daily radio and TV shows, books, newspaper columns, tons of airtime on others' shows without the other side getting a chance to speak...it all contributes to the atmosphere of hate we are seeing.
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Tue Jul-29-08 07:15 AM
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17. They do stand behind violence as the answer to all issues |
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The way they call negotiation "appeasement" and take an all or nothing stance. It doesn't matter how much the US is hated, because the US is physically the strongest. So it would be easy for their nuttier followers to make the leap from countries to individuals.
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Tue Jul-29-08 07:35 AM
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18. Call It A Chain Reaction... |
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I don't think the hate radio goons want to incite violence as much as create a "violent reaction"...a viseral, not a physical one. Or at least that's how it was originally intended. Demonizing people has always been a tool of the right wing...from the Red Scare through McCarthy and then into their golden age of Rushbo and hate radio. Issues simplified, strawman used and demons created...and in this case the superdemon is the dreaded "librul" (akin to the 1950's "Commie"). The picture has been developed and refined over the years...and then it became a can you top this contest.
Hate radio is a competitive world...the squeakiest wheels get the "grease"...like a Rushbo or O'Reilly. The way to get that grease is to go "one-up" on the others...come up with a buzzword or outrage and hope others pick up on it. It's finding a victim or target that they can flail at...the Clintons were their favorite targets...adding more lies and inuendo...it became a cottage industry that still generates ratings and money.
No, I don't think it's about violence as much as it is about money and influence. It's "stirring the blood"...but once it goes out there, how a listener interprets is another story. I'm sure we'll find the shooter had a lot of other problems...long neglected...hate radio was just one of his many demons.
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Tue Jul-29-08 07:58 AM
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they have been shouting fire in a crowded theatre ever since the fairness doctrine was rescinded. x(
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Tue Jul-29-08 07:59 AM
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Tue Jul-29-08 08:13 AM
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21. RW propaganda radio is. |
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And we have a Democratic Convention coming up soon :scared:
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Tue Jul-29-08 08:22 AM
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23. Yes! Walk into any bar in the white south suburban Chicagoland |
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when the White Sox aren't playing and you will see FOX on the tube over the bar and surly glances from the regulars. If you are suicidal, ask the bartender to change the channel.:scared:
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:31 AM
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24. So how do we stop them from targetting us? |
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How many of us have to complain to the FCC? To church and civic leaders? How do we fund our own messages?
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:34 AM
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25. hell, they were doing that since at least the early 90s |
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no one remembers the fun comments from Gordon Liddy and Ollie North? and all the theories about Clinton/Reno's gun-grabbing jew-controlled one-world shadow government? (or something like that)
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