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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 10:47 AM
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Remember Collin Powell telling the UN about Anthrax in Feb 2003?
Edited on Mon Aug-04-08 10:49 AM by Botany
Now "they" knew that the Anthrax that was used in America in 2001 was from
Ft. Detrick, MD and yet Powell stood up and talked about Saddam's mobile
bio-weapons factories in 2003 to the U.N.?



http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/02/05/sprj.irq.powell.transcript.05/index.html

Ladies and gentlemen, these are sophisticated facilities. For example, they can produce anthrax and botulism toxin. In fact, they can produce enough dry biological agent in a single month to kill thousands upon thousands of people. And dry agent of this type is the most lethal form for human beings.

By 1998, U.N. experts agreed that the Iraqis had perfected drying techniques for their biological weapons programs. Now, Iraq has incorporated this drying expertise into these mobile production facilities.

We know from Iraq's past admissions that it has successfully weaponized not only anthrax, but also other biological agents, including botulism toxin, aflatoxin and ricin.

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There can be no doubt that Saddam Hussein has biological weapons and the capability to rapidly produce more, many more. And he has the ability to dispense these lethal poisons and diseases in ways that can cause massive death and destruction. If biological weapons seem too terrible to contemplate, chemical weapons are equally chilling.
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 10:50 AM
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1. When Powell sold his country out pushing the Bush/Cheney lies
Yeah, I remember that. Let's see if the MSM calls him out on that. Yeah...riiight.

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bdf Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 03:29 PM
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13. Your photoshopped pic reminds me that
In another time and another place, somebody acting as Powell did would have been described as a "good German," And when the war was over, he'd have been prosecuted for war crimes.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 10:51 AM
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2. Fuck you, Colin Powell.
You fucking liar. The blood of thousands upon thousands of innocent poeple is on your hands.

Burn in hell, fucker!
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 10:53 AM
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5. Powell might not have known but was feed b.s. from the White House.
He is now on record as saying he lied and was used ...... :shrug:

Bet ya the media will be right on this story.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 11:01 AM
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10. Bullshit.
If "he lied," he knew.

Go die, Colin Powell.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 03:37 PM
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14. He said to Armitage, literally seconds after the UN speech,
"That was all bullshit"
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 10:51 AM
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3. Correct.
Furthermore, Mueller now says that Bush and Cheney tried to get him to agree that there was a link between the anthrax and al qaeda immediately after the attacks (in 2001) and Mueller told them then that it was military grade and likely made by the U.S.

And now we hear that the FBI had suspected Ivins since 2002. We invaded Iraq in 2003.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 10:51 AM
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4. Pass the salt please.....
Yes, Collin was and is a professional liar. I just wonder when he officially went to the dark side.
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 08:56 PM
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17. Powell's been ethically suspect for decades
I don't know how he got a reputation for being a straight shooter. Good German fits him quite nicely.

Behind Colin Powell's Legend -- My Lai (or in Powell's case, perhaps it should've been spelled "Me lie" -- RTF)


"...Powell's peripheral role in the My Lai cover-up did not slow his climb up the Army's ladder. Powell pleaded ignorance about the actual My Lai massacre, which pre-dated his arrival at the Americal. Glen's letter disappeared into the National Archives -- to be unearthed only years later by British journalists Michael Bilton and Kevin Sims for their book Four Hours in My Lai. In his best-selling memoirs, Powell did not mention his brush-off of Tom Glen's complaint."


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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 09:02 PM
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18. Goes way back to his days in Viet Nam
where he showed he knew the secret of getting ahead in the army was not to rock the boat.


Behind Colin Powell's Legend -- My Lai

By Robert Parry & Norman Solomon

SNIP

A Pattern of Brutality

While a horrific example of a Vietnam war crime, the My Lai massacre was not unique. It fit a long pattern of indiscriminate violence against civilians that had marred U.S. participation in the Vietnam War from its earliest days when Americans acted primarily as advisers.

In 1963, Capt. Colin Powell was one of those advisers, serving a first tour with a South Vietnamese army unit. Powell's detachment sought to discourage support for the Viet Cong by torching villages throughout the A Shau Valley. While other U.S. advisers protested this countrywide strategy as brutal and counter-productive, Powell defended the "drain-the-sea" approach then -- and continued that defense in his 1995 memoirs, My American Journey. (See The Consortium, July 8)

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But a test soon confronted Maj. Powell. A letter had been written by a young specialist fourth class named Tom Glen, who had served in an Americal mortar platoon and was nearing the end of his Army tour. In a letter to Gen. Creighton Abrams, the commander of all U.S. forces in Vietnam, Glen accused the Americal division of routine brutality against civilians. Glen's letter was forwarded to the Americal headquarters at Chu Lai where it landed on Maj. Powell's desk.

"The average GI's attitude toward and treatment of the Vietnamese people all too often is a complete denial of all our country is attempting to accomplish in the realm of human relations," Glen wrote. "Far beyond merely dismissing the Vietnamese as 'slopes' or 'gooks,' in both deed and thought, too many American soldiers seem to discount their very humanity; and with this attitude inflict upon the Vietnamese citizenry humiliations, both psychological and physical, that can have only a debilitating effect upon efforts to unify the people in loyalty to the Saigon government, particularly when such acts are carried out at unit levels and thereby acquire the aspect of sanctioned policy."

Glen's letter contended that many Vietnamese were fleeing from Americans who "for mere pleasure, fire indiscriminately into Vietnamese homes and without provocation or justification shoot at the people themselves." Gratuitous cruelty was also being inflicted on Viet Cong suspects, Glen reported.

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"There may be isolated cases of mistreatment of civilians and POWs," Powell wrote in 1968. But "this by no means reflects the general attitude throughout the Division." Indeed, Powell's memo faulted Glen for not complaining earlier and for failing to be more specific in his letter.

Powell reported back exactly what his superiors wanted to hear. "In direct refutation of this portrayal," Powell concluded, "is the fact that relations between Americal soldiers and the Vietnamese people are excellent."

http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/colin3.html
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 10:55 AM
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6. remember his drawings of mobile weapons labs???


He is a Master of War per Dylan. Maybe he didnt "like it", but he packaged and sold us this war and is just as guilty as the others
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 10:58 AM
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9. They turned out to be weather ballon trucks .....


Nice bio lab .... real freaking clean.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 10:58 AM
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7. Yes. Not likely to forget it either.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 10:58 AM
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8. Let's hope he was a pawn. Let's hope they used him. Let's hope he was not in on it.
He did enough for them before this - that's why he was rewarded with Sec of State. I repeat, let's hope he was not part of the planning of this scheme.

The more that is revealed, the more it's becoming obvious that the perpetratators of all the lies were really duds at scheming. No cretivity, such simple lies. They suceeded for awhile because of the infiltration of Departments of Government (supposed to be our representatives) and with 100% help from CTVN - Corporate TV and Newspapers and the big R's - the Reverends.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 11:20 AM
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11. We were all pawns in the rush to war .....
After all don't you love America and want some payback for 9/11?
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 02:04 PM
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12. I know you are being facetious, all I wanted was a criminal trial - as was done
in the first WTC bombing. What we got was a posse and a burning, just like the wild New America of our past.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 03:45 PM
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15. "I just wonder when he officially went to the dark side."
Colon Powell went to the dark side when he tried to cover up the murders by US Troops in Vietnam. He was complicit in the lies to Illegally invade Iraq.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 08:43 PM
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16. Oh, the shame of it all.
Can Powell ever redeem himself? His performance looks worse and worse as time goes by.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 10:13 PM
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21. This whole thing smells
None of it adds up except if you were to say that Anthranx was used
to "gin up fear" to start a war and get the Patriot act passed.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 12:58 PM
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22. If Powell hadn't joined the * maladministration....
He'd be standing in for McInsane right now... or maybe Obama.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 07:24 PM
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23. And * might not have even been "elected".
He gave that crowd an air of "moderation" and "judgement".

Bad call, Colin.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 09:16 PM
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19. and all our troops had to get the Anthrax vaccine which
many got sick from used as lab rats
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 09:21 PM
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20. Remember *Colon* telling the nation about My Lai?!1 n/t
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panzerfaust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 07:27 PM
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25. Give him credit
He did his best, which just was not good enough, to cover it up.

But it did ID him to The Machine as being a willing carrier of water and likely is why he got his star - not to mention his later job.
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panzerfaust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 07:25 PM
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24. precious
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