The anthrax thing 1. no one buys it 2. they've awoken a dead story trying to wrap it up

[underpants]

WE had a birthday party for my daughter this weekend. In NO DOING OF MY OWN current events came up.

Neither my Right-of-Ayn-Rand brother nor my southern-conservative stepfather nor pretty much anyone else in the room once the subject came up believe a bit of this anthrax story with Ivins. Everyone said that it not only was way to convenient but many had forgotten about it and the reliving of that period after 9/11 made them feel like "children" (one person said) as to how they were force fed information and how they believed it. And NO ONE had heard anything about any ongoing investigation-the "We were this close to solving it" stuff isn't working.

I just stood there and didn't say a word. About 15 people mostly soccermom-families and grandparent types.

The only thing W ever had going for his legacy is starting to unravel. Just saying.

[fascisthunter]

1. hopefully now they realize who the real enemy is

[Ganja Ninja]

2. It's obvious that they had to be behind it.

It just dovetails with their Iraq/WMD's scam too closely. The Anthrax vile Powell held up at the UN and the story about mobile labs was their most compelling argument to the UN when they were trying to justify the invasion. I think they thought they were going to find something in Iraq to give them cover for this attack so they went for it.

[alcibiades_mystery]

3. The current version is absurd...they must release their case against Ivin' immediately

You're correct: nobody believes the story that is currently there. The social worker who is being paraded around as a "mental health professional" is fast becoming a national joke. She has absolutely no qualifications to make any of the claims she is currently making, yet these claims are being held up by the gov't and the media as some kind of proof. They are proof of nothing, other than that the social worker had a penchant for making fairly serious charges with no solid basis whatsoever. If I was Ivin's family, or a journalist, I would immediately file a FOIA request on this. They no longer have any basis to hide any of the case they were building mon Ivins, supposing such a case even exists. Nobody has any right to even suggest Bruce Ivins' was behind these crimes without significant further evidence, and that includes both the DoJ and any mainstream media outlets that even hint of his involvement. What, Richard Jewell and Steven Hatfill were not sufficient warnings that the gov't blows a lot of hot air around innocent people?

[underpants]

6. Even Daschle basically said "consider their track record" on CNN this morning

That is Tom FREAKIN' DASCHLE he rolls over like a rug for crying out loud

I'll see if I can find the video

[underpants]

8. 1:10 VIDEO here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x165361

[truedelphi]

16. You say:

What, Richard Jewell and Steven Hatfill were not sufficient warnings that the gov't blows a lot of hot air around innocent people?


And the tens of thousands of people who are in jail for trumped up charges, the three to four hundred people who have died from being tasered, the Gitmo residents who were underage and who were probably innocent of much.

There is a world of hurt warning us about what type of low life criminals are occupying the WH and other places of authority these days.

[Efilroft Sul]

4. What strikes me odd is the silence coming from certain Web sites.

By that, I mean the large conservative sites. Almost nobody is talking about the anthrax investigation; it's just being quietly swept under the rug. Sure, they talk ad infinitum about Obama wanting to drill/not drill off the coasts, the Republican cry-in in Congress, and John Edwards possibly having an illegitimate kid. But anthrax created in an Army lab and used to terrorize everyone in the wake of 9/11? NOTHING. So much for George Bush preventing another terror strike on our soil.

As of this posting, there is next to nothing about the ongoing anthrax investigation to be found on the home page/first news page of the following right-leaning Web sites:
• Free Republic
• CUckooville (although there is one thread with a whopping TWO responses dating from last week)
• Little Green Footballs
• Lucianne
• Red State
• Town Hall
• World Net Daily
• Breitbart (one story about circumstantial evidence)
• Politico (one story about anthrax mentioned in the Sunday talkies)
• Drudge

Why is the right so silent on this? Technically everyone -- Democrats, Republicans, and Independents alike -- could have been harmed by anthrax as powder-laced letters moved through the postal system, at least that was the fear gripping the land seven years ago. Why aren't the BS detectors about this story going off on the right? Perhaps Underpants' last paragraph summed it all up in his OP.

[underpants]

7. A likely explanation is

they have been parroting the "no attacks since 9/11" so long that when this popped back up they all had to realize that they were just being lead around by the nose and they completely fell for it.

That is as likely as their worst paranoid Clinton black-helicopters fantasy stories have just been turned around on them.

Cuckooville??? really??? :rofl:

Strange that it isn't on Drudge but the MSM is still reporting on it. Must be a glitch in the matrix or something.

By the way-I am NOT a LIHOP 9/11 person. That being said, the only people who take CREDIT for 9/11 are OBL and W. Just saying.

[alcibiades_mystery]

9. They continue to assert that the anthrax came from Saddam Hussein

Many of those conservative morons continue to believe that lunatic woman's argument that Tim McVeigh was in cahoots with Iraqi intelligence agencies (was there ever such a thing?), so there's no telling what those numbskulls are likely to believe.

[RainDog]

13. I stumbled upon the Freeper site when googling Ivins

and they have a long, long thread about this and they don't seem to believe this story either. Their frame, of course, is abuse of power (Waco, etc.) but they have Larissa's At Largely post and Glenn Greenwald's post on this story posted and linked.

I haven't run across the other sites and really don't want to go to any of them purposely.

[starroute]

15. Some of them were all over the Hatfield exoneration

Because they took it as an opportunity to cast suspicion back on Iraq. If they're not talking about Ivins, it may just be that they haven't figured out how to spin it.

[Junkdrawer]

5. Agreed. This story stinks so bad that people who only know 1/10 of the filth...

are recoiling from it.

Here at work, co-workers all think it's a bunch of guff - and that's before I mention Jean C. Duley's multiple DUIs.

[EFerrari]

10. But the mfers in the media continue to smear Dr. Ivins.

It's obscene. I hope Hatfil's lawyer approaches his family and I hope they sue the F out of FBI, that horrible "therapist" and the AP for promoting this smear.

[horseshoecrab]

11. k& r

Thanks ... I had a similar experience today with a relative. I was just about speechless.

It seems then that no one is buying this one!

:kick:


horseshoecrab

[bluesmail]

12. 3. Bungling while scrambling while Covering Their Asses

They really did awaken The Beast.

[RufusTFirefly]

14. Perhaps some skeptics will start asking more questions about you know what

It doesn't take too much of a logical leap to wonder whether another even more notorious incident was similarly set up.

Oh well. Off to the Lobby for me, I guess.