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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 12:52 PM
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"Obama's people are trying to denigrate" McCain's "military service"
Edited on Mon Aug-04-08 12:53 PM by babylonsister
On Face the Nation, Schieffer baselessly claimed "Obama's people are trying to denigrate" McCain's "military service"


Summary: On Face the Nation, Bob Schieffer alleged that "{Sen. Barack} Obama's people are trying to denigrate the war hero's military service," referring to Sen. John McCain. Schieffer did not explain which of "Obama's people" he was talking about, but a few days earlier he said that "{retired Gen.} Wesley Clark, who was speaking for Obama, tried to marginalize John McCain's military service" in a June appearance on Face the Nation. In fact, Clark did not "denigrate" McCain's "military service"; rather, he questioned the relevance of McCain's combat experience as a qualification to be president.

On the August 3 edition of CBS' Face the Nation, host Bob Schieffer alleged that "{Sen. Barack} Obama's people are trying to denigrate the war hero's military service," referring to Sen. John McCain. Schieffer did not explain which of "Obama's people" he was talking about, but on the July 31 edition of CBS' Early Show, when asked "what is it about John McCain that he {Obama} would attack," Schieffer responded, "ell, I mean, they've already tried this, there's no question about that," adding that "{retired Gen.} Wesley Clark, who was speaking for Obama, tried to marginalize John McCain's military service" during a June 29 appearance on Face the Nation. Schieffer cited no other examples of the Obama campaign "attack{ing}" McCain. However, as Media Matters for America has repeatedly noted, during his Face the Nation appearance, Clark did not "denigrate" McCain's "military service." Rather, as Zachary Roth wrote at the Columbia Journalism Review's Campaign Desk blog, Clark "questioned the relevance of McCain's combat experience as a qualification to be president of the United States."


Video/transcript at link~

:mad:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200808030001?f=h_clips
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 12:57 PM
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1. Apparently, what's sauce for the goose
is not sauce for the gander.

So much for the high road - go with the Adulterer line of attack.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 12:58 PM
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2. How the fuck is he a "war hero"?
He is basically a piss poor pilot who admittedly broke under torture. I'm not saying I wouldn't have done the same but then I'm not running around claiming to be a war hero.

And he clearly lacks a spine. Witness his embrace of the bushies after they trashed his wife and family.

Hero my ass.
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ajh60 Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 02:08 PM
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5. WIMPY WORDS
Spoken by one who never served. Say what you want but his service to the country was at great sacrifice. You are what give Democrats bad names and make everyone think we are pantie wearing wussies when it comes to defense. Prior to his last mission the carrier he was on became engulfed in flames (as a result of a bomb exploding) on the flight deck. McCain had to jump through a wall of fire to escape his plane. Men were killed. He was offered (as all on deck were) leave to get over it. He refused. He did not want to have someone fly his missions.

There was a time we as Democrats stood for a strong defense and honored those who served. Not so much now. If you want to challenge him on his politics, do so. If you wish to challenge him on policy it is your right. But to question his service and to say "he broke" how dare you. He can not lift his arms over his head due to the broken shoulders as a result from torture. He refused early release. Politically I am opposed to him, but the guy is a hero, in the truest sense of the word. It is that arrogance that has prevented Dem's from winning the whitehouse. They assume we are like you, disrespectful of the military (Dem's DO serve) and service to the country.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 02:28 PM
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8. I'll give you wimpy words
I served in the US Army from 1960 to 1963. My father was a decorated marine veteran of the Pacific campaign of WWII. My uncle was wounded in the Normandy invasion. My brother served in the Navy in Vietnam.

And I still say McCain is no fuckin hero. And it's my right to say so. And I'd tell you that to your face

Easy for you to talk tough on an anonymous internet forum.
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cbc5g Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 01:05 PM
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3. He's a war tragedy, not a hero
I used to have a little respect for the guy, but after last week, never again.
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norepubsin08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 01:27 PM
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4. WTF
The guy watsed huge amounts of taxpayer money by fucking around, crashing a bunch of jets, putting others in harms way. Then to make things worse, he got himself a several years vacation and gave up state secrets to boots. The worst is that he is a souless shell who whored himself to the right wing and on top of that screwed over the wife who stood behind during all those years he was gone and when she needed him, he booked on her. Hero my ass!!!!!
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 02:22 PM
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7. Who said that, Bob? When?
Oh, we're in the fact-free baseless allegation zone. Okay. And, as I recall, Mr. Schieffer was front and center to bring down the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth in 2004, wasn't he? Oh, he wasn't? You mean, the word of one guy who barely served with John Kerry was credited over the unanimous opinion of dozens of others and the Department of the Navy, and Bob Schieffer wasn't on this like a goose on a junebug? And now he's making free-fire accusations against Obama.

Gee, I wonder why?
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 02:36 PM
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11. Schieffer is a freakin' liar. No one in Sen. Obama's Campaign
has denigrated McNasty's Military Service. Saying that being a bomber pilot doesn't necessarily qualify a person to be Pres. is a fact. It's more RWing BS.
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 02:29 PM
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9. Schieffer has been nothing but disappointing.
It sickens me.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 02:30 PM
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10. "War Hero" qualifies anyone for what?
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