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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 04:15 PM
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Salon has uncovered new evidence of post-9/11 spying on Americans.
Salon has uncovered new evidence of post-9/11 spying on Americans. Obtained documents
point to a potential investigation of the White House that could rival Watergate.

Editor's note: This article is part of a Salon investigative series on spying inside the United States by the Bush administration. Research support for the article was provided by the Nation Institute Investigative Fund.
http://dir.salon.com/topics/bush_domestic_spying/

Exposing Bush's historic abuse of power
By Tim Shorrock = http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/07/23/new_churchcomm/index.html
Pages 1 2 3

July 23, 2008 | WASHINGTON -- The last several years have brought a parade of dark revelations about the George W. Bush administration, from the manipulation of intelligence to torture to extrajudicial spying inside the United States. But there are growing indications that these known abuses of power may only be the tip of the iceberg. Now, in the twilight of the Bush presidency, a movement is stirring in Washington for a sweeping new inquiry into White House malfeasance that would be modeled after the famous Church Committee congressional investigation of the 1970s.

While reporting on domestic surveillance under Bush, Salon obtained a detailed memo proposing such an inquiry, and spoke with several sources involved in recent discussions around it on Capitol Hill. The memo was written by a former senior member of the original Church Committee; the discussions have included aides to top House Democrats, including Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Judiciary Committee chairman John Conyers, and until now have not been disclosed publicly.

Salon has also uncovered further indications of far-reaching and possibly illegal surveillance conducted by the National Security Agency inside the United States under President Bush. That includes the alleged use of a top-secret, sophisticated database system for monitoring people considered to be a threat to national security. It also includes signs of the NSA's working closely with other U.S. government agencies to track financial transactions domestically as well as globally.

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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 04:18 PM
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1. It's the pre-9/11 spying on Americans that really interests me.
k&r
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bpcmxr Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 04:26 PM
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3. Amen. n/t
n/t.
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 04:28 PM
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4. Yes, me too.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 04:25 PM
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2. It's not just the fed. Our State Police was spying on antideath penalty groups.
Edited on Mon Aug-04-08 04:26 PM by Wizard777
This was under our republican Governor Bob Ehrlich. He claims to have known nothing about it. But the New Head of of MSP says it would have required authorization from the highest levels.
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curious one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 04:54 PM
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5. I bet that this is going on for decades and not limited only to this administration.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 05:38 AM
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10. Republican administrations for 20 of the past 28 years so who is more culpable?
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 10:01 PM
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6. kick!
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gepetto41 Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 10:04 PM
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7. I hope Pelosi sends those responsible to jail
First it was the telecom story broke by the NY Times; now this. If we continue to give immunity to those who break the law, the problem with grow legs.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 11:37 PM
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8. Bookmarking for a later read.
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 05:36 AM
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9. Great. More Rationalization From Impeachophobics Anonymous Dropouts.
First of all the article starts out saying former-Church-Committee "member" and ends up saying "staffer." Huge bait and switch.

Then we hear how all the DC Dem Strategerists (Impeachophobes) are going to get it all right and make it all up to everyone. Just as soon as they're able to give up their addiction to corrupt complicity with already-known war criminals. We should all just audaciously hope that Obama in the WH will make it all better.

This is the same escapism as "later criminal prosecutions," and "truth and reconcilliation committees," and "the world will fix it all for us at The Hague." (The cargo plane is just not coming -- honest.)

They all just relieve Dem members (or staffers) of the DC/Euphemedia Analstocracy of the guilt they carry for not being willing TO DO some damn thing now -- when it will actually help.

Just keep talking impeachment folks. Don't buy into the nonsense about "too late," or "no votes," or "too divisive." That's all rubbish too.

Demanding Impeachment is literally the most productive political activity one can engage in.

It remains our ONLY moral, patriotic option.

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