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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 08:48 PM
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Exclusive: The Purported 'Anthrax Killer' Was a Registered Democrat
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Exclusive: The Purported 'Anthrax Killer' Was a Registered Democrat
The Party Affiliation of the Now-Deceased Bruce Ivins, as Confirmed by His Local County Board of Elections, Adds Yet Another Curious Question to the Increasingly Troubling Investigation into the Post-9/11 Terrorist Attacks on American Soil...


Bruce E. Ivins, reportedly on the verge of being indicted for capital murder in the anthrax killings, was a registered Democrat, according to the Fredrick County, MD Board of Elections. He had been registered there since 1982 and records indicate that he voted in "every election since 1996," including Democratic primaries, according to the official who responded to a request from West Virginia-based radio host Bob Kincaid.

The party affiliation of the bio-terror researcher who worked at U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Disease (USAMRIID) adds a notable twist to the ever increasing questions surrounding the bizarre case following Ivins' reported suicide last week...
FULL STORY: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6245

Recent Related Coverage from The BRAD BLOG...


WaPo Scrubs Story Questioning Fed Case Against 'Anthrax Killer'
Paper Then Returns to Similar Questions About Ivins' Lack of Access to 'Dry, Powdered Anthrax' in Sunday Article
New WaPo Story Begs Additional New Questions in Feds' Purported Case...
FULL COVERAGE, CACHED VERSION OF SCRUBBED STORY:
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6242

EXCLUSIVE: 'Not One' Reporter Bothered to Ask Brother About Political Leanings of 'Anthrax Killer'
Corporate Media Coverage of Now-Deceased U.S. Army Bio-Researcher/Suspect Fails to Note Obvious 'Liberal' Targets of Deadly Post-9/11, Pre-War Letter Campaign
ALSO: ABC News Continues to Protect 'Sources' Who Lied About Iraq Connection to Anthrax...
FULL STORY: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6237



Read more: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6245
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 08:54 PM
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1. If it's true that he sent out the anthrax to test a cure
then his political affiliation means nothing, because he was nuts. There's no way to know, given what we've been told (or rather, despite what we've been told.)
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 09:00 PM
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5. He was working on a "vacine" not a cure
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 09:02 PM
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7. A vaccine, I stand corrected.
So, he was hoping that people would spread it from one another? Or that the vaccine could be used even after infection? I'm trying to remember what I read and cannot.
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 09:27 PM
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11. vaccines are used *before* exposure
except in specific emergencies such as a rabies bite, and then it's not the typical rabies vaccine used in the normal way.

And an experimental vaccine wouldn't have been used at all, certainly not after the fact.

The more I read about this case, the more convinced I am that he was being set up and framed. He knew it, they broke him, and *if* he killed himself, it was because he figured his life was already over. Take yourself before you get renditioned.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 11:13 PM
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26. That is what I thought, that a vaccine would be preventative.
I tried to find the yahoo story and couldn't. Maybe I dreamed it!
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 10:25 PM
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20. Sorry didn't mean to come off like that
But it is important to understand

The guy is a Patsy to make the Bush administration appear competent
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 11:13 PM
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25. Maybe you're only partly right.
Maybe he's a patsy to take the heat off the Bushies after they intimidated the hell out of the liberals with their anthrax. Guys like Reid & Daschle all of a sudden got very weak-kneed about opposing the Bushies right after they got yhe anthrax mailed to them. The one fatality, iirc, was a National Inquirer reporter who trashed the Bush girls for their drunken public behavior.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 11:17 PM
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delete - dupe
Edited on Mon Aug-04-08 11:18 PM by crim son
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 11:17 PM
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29. Didn't make the connection.
Damn. I wish we knew the truth; that's a pretty exceptional coincidence, when you think about it.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 11:27 PM
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31. No evidence he is "purported anthrax killer".That's media spin
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 11:44 PM
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36. He's an unlikely candidate.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 11:16 PM
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28. No worries.
I'm trying to figure it out too, and can't help but believe that what we're hearing about Ivins is bullshit. The words of his therapist are convincing, if indeed there is a therapist. My memory sucks and I am pleased to have you steer me straight.
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 11:26 PM
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30. Based on his letters to the newspaper
One of which promotes the call for married priests and female clergy, Ivins was also a progressive Catholic.

The weak link in this entire mess now is his "theripist". Find the FBI agent who coached her, and you have someone who knows who Ivins was being framed to protect.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 11:33 PM
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33. What has "democrat" got to do with anything?
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 11:39 PM
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35. Intelligence, for a start...
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 11:35 PM
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34. Yes.
As a lover of history, it is impossible to guess whether this is as ugly as it looks, or the plain truth. Given the * administration's history, I'm willing to bet it's all bullshit and you're dead on.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 11:51 PM
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38. Check it out; just posted, a WSJ article
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 12:29 AM
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42. The counselor made a bunch of accusations and provided
not a shred of detail or evidence for them. She also described him in words no clinician would use. She is not credible in the least. Plus, she seems to have a history of DUI and also money troubles.

She also only knew Ivins at all for about six months.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 09:20 PM
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9. A vaccine for anthrax has been around for 30 years (n/t)
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 02:00 AM
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46. RIGHT . . .and I remember now . . . RUMSFELD WANTED A STRONGER ANTHRAX . . .
that could beat the vaccine . . . wasn't that it????

For some reason your comment caused me to remember that ---

I'll see if I can find anything on that --- but remember how upside down that thinking was!


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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 01:46 AM
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45. More likely someone floated this stuff out to close Congress . . and harm Dems ....
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 08:55 PM
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2. Well that explains everything n/t
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 08:58 PM
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3. Yay, we're all enemy combatants now
Edited on Mon Aug-04-08 09:15 PM by shadowknows69
They must be warming up the mega-prisons.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 07:08 AM
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48. Mukasey and his crack team of RW Law School Graduates are working on the definition as we speak
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 08:59 PM
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4. Crock of shit
A real researcher would have known how to spell "penicillin."

This is just a right wing smear job in a desperate attempt to shut down an investigation into domestic terrorism.

At least we got them to admit it originated at that lab. The rest is a crock of shit.
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 09:47 PM
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15. I agree, this whole thing smells bad. That social worker "therapist"
I just don't buy it at all.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 09:01 PM
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6. This story is getting stranger and stranger. Penicillin is misspelled.
Edited on Mon Aug-04-08 09:01 PM by Olney Blue
What if they are wrong?
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 09:23 PM
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10. There is no way Ivins wrote that letter...
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 09:29 PM
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12. and there's no way
that theripist (sic) was for real.
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 10:50 PM
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23. "Penacilin"... "Theripist"... lots of misspellings in this very public case
Edited on Mon Aug-04-08 10:52 PM by Julius Civitatus
I thought it's interesting this major case has so many odd misspellings.
Sounds like poorly educated children playing grownup.

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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 09:12 PM
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8. Sure is a good way to deflect attention from McSame. n/t
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 09:32 PM
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13. So now they are identifying criminals political affiliation
So there you are....it has become a political war they are prosecuting any liberal or Democrat they can...no judge no jury.... Convenient suicide.


This is what the Neocons have done to America.....
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 09:49 PM
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16. I think you are missing the point
He was a registerred Democrat who voted in every election (including primaries). If he was the anthrax killer, why would he target Democrats?
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 10:01 PM
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17. I got that point actually.
I think he is a scape goat, I think he was a setup. It is convenient to link a Democratic members to Terrorism and now he is suicided.
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psquare Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 09:43 PM
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14. So he sent anthrax to Democrats, and he was registered Dem? No way.
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gepetto41 Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 10:07 PM
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18. Is there any better source than "bradblog.com"?
I'd like to see the story in a major outlet in order to believe it.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 10:42 PM
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22. Bradblog has been more reliable than CNN lately. n/t
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Bulletin Justin Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 11:49 PM
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37. What is wrong with us?
Don't we understand yet that the only important investigative reporting the MSM does is following minute by minute the unretirement of Brett Favre and the number of phallic symbols hidden in the McCain ad bashing Obama, Hilton and Spears?
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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 11:51 PM
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39. Sure. There's the Frederick Cty MD Board of Elections - Where we got our info!
Edited on Tue Aug-05-08 12:02 AM by BradBlog
You are welcome to call them up yourself, as we did.

Or you can wait for a "major outlet" to carry it. Yeesh.

Guardian UK is linking up tonight here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/aug/04/anthrax.internationalcrime
...to the report we filed yesterday in this matter, if that makes you feel any more comfortable.

I don't mean to snap at ya, since I encourage *everyone* to *not* trust me, but rather make me prove *anything* I report. With that in mind, however, I also ask you to do the same of AP, NYTimes, WaPo and all the rest of the "major outlets". So far, BRAD BLOG's record on getting things right, *far* surpasses all of 'em! Period.
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Michigan-Arizona Donating Member (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 12:07 AM
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40. Brad
Just wanted to thank you for all you do & we could sure use more like you! Again thank you
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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 12:17 AM
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44. SaguaroFlower
I wish I could say "my pleasure!"

But that would be a lie. But thanks much for the thanks, Saguaro.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 12:08 AM
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41. Yes. You can read Ivins' own letters to his newspaper.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 10:09 PM
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19. Wow, I really wanted to believe the Ivins story at first...

for years I've been pointing at the anthrax killer, using it as an example of a right-wing whacko domestic terrorist who had access to government WMD materials, and that the administration and DOJ appeared not to be acting very aggressively on the case. When the Ivins suicide story first appeared, all the facts fit nicely into my preconceptions. His suicide seemed to be poetic justice at last, case closed, and here was a clear example of a right-wing whacko domestic terrorist.

But, not so fast. I have to admit that I had a huge blind spot as to how the anthrax mailings had been used as part of the final push toward going to war with Iraq. I was completely unaware of the ABC-Saddam-bentonite claims, which turned out to be false, and which were pushed by no less than Senator McCain! Now, we learn that the White House was pressuring the FBI to tie the Anthrax mailing to al Qaeda, eventhough they knew at the time that the anthrax was produced by a US government lab. This is almost worse than blaming 9-11 on Iraq!

It now seems that if we pull just a little bit harder on these threads that the entire nexus of politics and terror will begin to unravel and the Bush Administration will finally be exposed for the high treason of which it is likely guilty. By all means, we need to keep pulling.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 10:33 PM
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21. surrrre
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 11:10 PM
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24. So Now We Have A Motive
for them picking on Ivins, that is. Ivins, on the other-hand, had no motive and it doesn't appear that he actually had the means either for carrying out the attacks.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 11:14 PM
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27. More evidence that this whole story is BULLSHIT
god, I can't wait until we bring down Big Media.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 11:31 PM
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32. www.glenngreenwald@salon.com. Been on it for years.Our best rep.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 05:36 AM
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43. Jerry Falwell was a registered Democrat too
It doesn't mean he agreed with the Democratic Party though.
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 02:16 AM
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47. There was a time when southern racists were registered as Democrats.
Maybe back then when the KKK were part of the Party. Things are rather different now, and I doubt that the sicko Falwell voted or registered Democratic once Kennedy initiated and Johnson signed the Voting Rights Act. Your comparison is just garbage.
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