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redirish28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 09:36 PM
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Wife vented to me today. It seems her new job has a couple
break rooms and she was in one today eating lunch. She overheard a few individuals talking about Barack Obama and she really held her tongue (after all she is in the 3 month probation period and wants to be careful.)

But she couldn't believe how LAZY people are today. They just want to believe what they are told. She politely told one girl that hey just take a few moments and do a Wiki search on Obama and you would have all his bio. The girl was saying that Barack was Arab and my wife pointed out that if she looked at his bio that his father is of Kenyan decent and his mother was American.

Of course they roll their eyes and kind of gave her the "she's crazy" smile.

No my wife isn't fully on the Obama band wagon... She is treading softly. She ranted that she could respect the argument that this is a one time Senator who hasn't had much world experience but what pissed her off is that people are not educating themselves on SIMPLE facts that can be "wikied". She is frustrated that people are just so willing to believe the rumors on ANYTHING they hear instead of taking 5 minutes out of the computer playing time and look the info up.

Anyone getting the same thing happening there OR any advice for wife.
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aspergris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 09:38 PM
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1. imo
if she is on probation, i would stay the heck away from ANY political discussion at work.

On the internet, there's a natural desire to tell everybody else why they are wrong :)

no benefit to that in a political discussion at work

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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 09:45 PM
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10. Agree. Even after the 3 month probation - ip-zay the ipps-lay when it
comes to Politics and Religion. There's a reason for that old saw.
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 10:15 PM
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12. I can't prove it but I'm sure me talking smack about bush and the bible
helped them hand me my 9.5 year pink slip.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 10:35 PM
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17. I wouldn't be surprised. Some people can't take a joke. :-) nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 09:40 PM
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2. For that particular smear, I'd ask if you thought the State of Illinois
the US Senate and the Democratic Party were ALL too stupid to determine your citizenship status. lol!
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 09:41 PM
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3. Tell your wife she's not the only one..
I do my ventinng in print to avoid the office conflict(I am the only Dem at work that I know of)I get my message across in my LTTEs.
Here's my latest..should be printed Thursday:
“Obamanation” is an abomination
I have listened to the persistent quoting of Jerome Corsi’s “Obamanation”-a hatchet job done by the author of “Unfit for Command:Swiftboat Veterans
Speak out against John Kerry”.I thought it necessary to offer some facts about Barack Obama that are being manipulated by this man.
Mediamatters is a non-partisan group that fact-checks written and news items, and offers resources to verify their findings.Mediamatters has found so many inaccuracies with Corsi’s book that I can’t write them all in a short letter.I will focus on Corsi’s inaccuracies regarding Obama and the military.
Corsi falsely claims that Obama seeks to decrease the size of the military. In fact, during the Democratic primary, Obama repeatedly asserted that he would "increase our ground forces by 65,000 soldiers and 27,000 Marines."Obama also stated .”Increasing our end strength will help units “retrain and re-equip properly between deployments and decrease the strain on military families."
Discussing Obama's "antiwar ... foreign policy," Corsi conflates Iraq and Afghanistan to falsely suggest that Obama supports "de-escalating troops from Afghanistan. But Obama's January 2007 bill -- the Iraq War De-escalation Act of 2007 -- establishes a timetable for the withdrawal of most troops from Iraq, and calls for "appropriate units of the Armed Forces" to be redeployed to Afghanistan and elsewhere in the region, as well as "elsewhere, to meet urgent United States security needs." Obama has been calling for an increase of U.S. troops in Afghanistan since at least 2006 and has specifically proposed the addition of at least two combat brigades since 2007.
This obvious smear of Senator Obama has been given a lot of footing by the mainstream media.Please do your own research before quoting Corsi.His track record shows him to be a character assassin of the worst degree.

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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 09:44 PM
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8. The same Jerome Corsi who now regrets voting for Bush.....
.....but has no problem putting his clone in for another term. He's a phony trying to appease the "They are all the same" crowd.
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 09:42 PM
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4. And that's why we are doomed
Perception is reality.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 09:43 PM
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5. I think that's an accurate picture of life outside of political blogs.
I remember during the last election, I'd overhear people saying shit about Kerry (untrue shit) and that's as far as it went.

As much as we wish it were not so, I honestly don't think these people will do much other than listen to what they want to hear. If these last 7 years haven't sent them running to Wiki, or the candidates' sites, I think they may be beyond hope.

It makes me so angry and disgusted with my fellow Americans.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 09:44 PM
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6. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people like that in the US.
I have no idea what age group your wife's fellow empoloyees fall into, but from what I've seen, that attitude seems more prevalent in the older crowd, albeit there are sure a lot of young people who are just too darn lazy to bother to check something out. The older people ave been conditioned to just believe what they hear...period!
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 09:44 PM
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7. I can't NOT say something, so She's doing well, IMO. n/t
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 09:44 PM
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9. I wish I could figure out an appropriate test to give for voting permission
I don't want it to be dependent on literacy, or English language skills, or biased in anyway.

But absolutely uninformed people should not be allowed to vote.

Maybe at least pass the test new citizens take and some easy multiple choice questions about the canddiates. If you don't know anything about the candidates' background and positions, why should you be allowed to vote?

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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 09:54 PM
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11. Did someone say wiki?
Hey, just have your wife show those morans at her job (after her 3 month probationary period is over of course) that all the lies about Barack Obama originated at a satirical wiki, based on a word created by Stephen Colbert.

Then see what they do.

Wikiality.com's Obama page.


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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 10:17 PM
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13. They're trapped in a Platonian Cave ...

These people are trapped in a Platonian Cave. Some were ensnaired. Some deliberately cast themselves into the pit. Now they only know one thing and they've been convinced that any information outside of Right Wing Orthodoxy is a "liberal deception". In my world view, I think these people will end up in their own type of hell of profound ignorance.

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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 10:24 PM
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15. That "hell of profound ignorance" is otherwise known as "bliss" for these slack-jawed imbeciles...
There's a Tom Tomorrow toon posted in GD that pretty much sums it up. They don't call the US Dumbfuckistan without good cause.

wp
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 10:21 PM
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14. Thanks to the Republicans "the Stupification" of Americans
has been pretty successful. The irony is this is supposed to be the generation of high tech...and information availability....
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 10:28 PM
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16. I think there are 4 taboo topics for newbies
Race, religion, politics and sex. You never know who can and will use your opinions against you.
There are other things to talk about besides these four topics.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 10:39 PM
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18. But They'll Do All Kinds Of Internet Research On Fantasy Baseball Or To.....
find out what happened on their favorite soap operas.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 10:49 PM
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19. If she MUST say something
Have her draw them out. "Oh, really? Why do you think that?" Whatever pile of steaming offal they're peddling is "that." Using a little Socratic dialog, it's possible to let them figure out for themselves that they're full of shit. It takes some practice, but it can be done. And if they're impervious to logic (some isolated examples exist at Free Republic), she can have a lot of quiet fun ridiculing them without their knowledge.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 12:45 AM
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20. Advice:
Keep her politics to herself, and at her 90 day review, she could "mention" that others seem overly interested in politics and proselytizing instead of working :evilgrin:
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