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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 11:26 AM
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Poll question: To the degree that the Ruling Class in the U.S. is finding...
Edited on Wed Aug-06-08 11:27 AM by Mr_Jefferson_24
...it increasingly difficult to control information and their corporate media dispensed propaganda too often ineffective, the likelihood of another false flag attack, but on a much larger scale than 9-11, perhaps involving many thousands of citizen deaths, increases dramatically.

Do you agree with this statement?


On edit: minor grammar/spelling correction.

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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 11:29 AM
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1. Completely Unnecessary
Edited on Wed Aug-06-08 11:30 AM by Crisco
If I really wanted to fuck with online speech, first thing I'd do is send kiddie porn to the EFF types, spoofing their/their friends' addys.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 11:57 AM
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2. Acronym challenged:
EFF ???
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 12:23 PM
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5. Electronic Frontier Foundation
The collective of lawyers and geeks that stands between us and congress.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 12:06 PM
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3. Except the EFF'ers are Super Geeks and Would Likely Be Able to Trace the Packets Back to You
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 12:22 PM
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4. I Didn't Say I'd Do It Myself
No matter how super geeky one is, someone somewhere is always super geekier. By the time anyone figured out where they came from, it'd be too late to stop legislation and progress.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 02:46 PM
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6. Kick for a larger sample.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 07:44 PM
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7. Kick for a larger sample.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 11:10 PM
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8. Kick for a larger sample.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 09:39 PM
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9. Kick for a larger sample.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 09:52 PM
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10. I disagree and for the most selfish of reasons...
...I fear the next attack will happen in LA, and I live in LA.


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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 10:13 PM
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11. Why do you think LA would be a likely target?
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 10:15 PM
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12. What's Lance Armstrong done now??
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 10:23 PM
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13. He keeps bad company...



Yes, that's Lance and the Chimp.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 10:39 PM
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14. The funny part of that is Lance ran Bushy into the dirt a couple times.
Bush had a great trailrash on his face after one ride.

Lance parlayed his little affair with Bush to great effect for Cancer research and publicity, which is what he was after.

There is some conjecture as to whether he and Bush were friends, but that is impossible.

I have it on good authority that Lance has no friends.

And as an aside -

I'll ride with all kinds of subnormal shitheads and republican morons.

I bring the pain. It's the least I can do.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 11:52 PM
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15. Because I'm paranoid.
But aside from that, we've lost a lot of hospitals and California's worthless governor has been allowing the infrastructure (including the existing hospitals) to fall apart. Oh, and not to mention all the state employees he fired the other day.

All we need is a big enough earthquake and voila! A disaster opportunity!

Or, it could be water-related, since California's worthless governor has allowed the levees to go for years without retrofitting, or repair. And it's in the west and many western states have been suffering through years of drought. California's worthless governor has done nothing to lead in conservation of this limited resource. LA's department of water and power used to fine people who wasted water, but they were instructed not to deter anyone from wasting water (like businesses and large property owners watering the sidewalks).

I do believe that we'll survive it, no matter what it is. People have always underestimated Californians as being too "laid back", but we always surprise people.


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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 06:14 AM
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18. Anyone who's been paying attention for the last eight years....
...would almost have to be at least a little paranoid. Being repeatedly victimized does that to people.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 04:12 AM
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16. Other: I really have no idea. I don't put it past them. But I'm not sure they need it either.
It's not like we've put up a fight they couldn't handle. They might be able to do what they want with no justification.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:53 AM
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17. We've yet to put up any meaningful resistance....
...but they know at some point, when things become bad enough and people feel they have little left to lose, that a movement could coalesce -- and like ALL fascist regimes they will move to crush it with fear, intimidation, and brute force.
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