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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 03:00 PM
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Not enough evidence to press charges, but still able to press their case after the suspect's death
Edited on Wed Aug-06-08 03:01 PM by bigtree
It's just amazing to watch the gall of the Justice Dept. as they work to convict a dead man who they couldn't even bring charges against when he was alive. These people have no respect for the law. They call this a 'circumstantial' case. It's a botched investigation that they don't deserve to stack up now against Dr. Ivins since the dead man won't have a chance to rebut them in court, or anywhere else. I hope the family slams them.

Justice Dept. anthrax investigation "briefing" on now . . .
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CrazyDude Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 03:01 PM
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1. Damned if they do, damned if they don't n/t
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 03:03 PM
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2. Only damned if it's bullshit.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 03:04 PM
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4. How about solving the case before they put the dead man on public trial?
. . . especially since they never even indicted him.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 03:06 PM
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6. Err, how would that work?
Especially if Ivins really was the culprit?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 03:12 PM
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9. I guess the family will have to initiate some sort of civil case
Edited on Wed Aug-06-08 03:12 PM by bigtree
. . . to clear his name (if he's innocent) from whatever the Justice Dept. feels free to sling around, now that he's not around to rebut the charges.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 03:15 PM
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11. No, I mean how's the FBI supposed to continue the case...
if the guy who did it is dead?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 03:59 PM
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12. that's my thought
Edited on Wed Aug-06-08 04:00 PM by bigtree
I can see forming some sort of committee to further investigate it, but to lay it out like they have seems to elicit one conclusion, that Ivins must be guilty of all of the circumstantial evidence they've stacked up. I think what they're doing right now is too much like a prosecution, and, not a very legitimate means to determine the truth.
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CrazyDude Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 07:01 PM
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14. The brother here, rightly or wrongly, believes he's guilty
I'll concede he sounded bitter, but I don't think those around him are as supportive of him as those around Hatfill were.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 03:04 PM
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3. imo, it seems like they're trying a bit too hard. We've all become
such cynics, and with good reason.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 03:06 PM
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7. It's just too convenient for them to claim that they were about to move on the indictment
. . . and as the spokesman just said, that he knew they were about to move against him. I'd like to see the proof of all of that.
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ROakes1019 Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 03:14 PM
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10. suspicious
I, too, find myself doubting anything these guys say. The Justice Department, and the whole Bush Administration, has lost all credibility. What I've always wondered is why only two Democratic senators and NBC were targeted? As a matter of fact, what was Ivins' motive, if he was the culprit? I've lost all confidence in this government and will be so glad to see them gone . . . IF we can keep them out of the White House again.
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 03:05 PM
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5. Would it be atypical for Ivins' lawyer to give a presser?
I'd really like to hear what he has to say.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 03:08 PM
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8. I'm sure he will
"circumstantial evidence"

"no direct evidence"
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 04:43 PM
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13. It's easy to attack and smear a dead man --- there's be no word from him . . .
but everything surrounding this case --- from the first is BS ---

The stuff that was in the Daschle envelope was very sophisticated --- only 4-5 people

in US know how to weaponize anthrax and this was sophisticated beyond that! ---

Ivins had no experience with weaponizing anthrax ---

FURTHER, Ivins was involved in heading up the investigations for government into all

the samples of the letters --- !!
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