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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:11 PM Original message |
If you are angry at John Edwards You must be angry at Elizabeth, too: |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
1. Yep |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
109. I'm mystified. I'm mystified that she would be a part of something |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
2. I'm one that believes that it takes trwo |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
3. I am only going to post once on this subject. |
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crim son (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
15. I'd rate it as at least twenty cents' worth, MrsGrumpy. |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 11:42 PM Response to Reply #3 |
45. Yes. |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 08:57 AM Response to Reply #3 |
61. How enlightened you are. |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #61 |
93. I sincerely hope you posted this in the wrong place. |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #93 |
96. I was talking to the op |
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baby_mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 10:26 AM Response to Reply #3 |
70. Hello, MrsGrumpy! |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
4. I'm angry at idiots that want to make something out of a private matter. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:15 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Absolutely. People think indignation makes them more moral. |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:17 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. It's not indignation -- it's ANGER at being player for a sucker |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:19 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. The REPS will be the ones expressing 'moral indignation'. nt |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 11:15 PM Response to Reply #12 |
42. Why? How? |
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charlyvi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 12:02 PM Response to Reply #42 |
97. It's not a matter of breaking promises. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:18 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. Good one, cliffordu! I'm stealing that statement, if you don't mind. nt |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Fine wit' me!! |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:40 PM Response to Reply #6 |
27. A lot of people here think a lack of indignation.. |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #6 |
39. I'm not indignant. I'm hurt and disappointed. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:16 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Funny, because John Edwards was one of those Morality-Police types when it came to Bill Clinton. |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #9 |
40. Yep. |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 12:06 AM Response to Reply #4 |
49. It's not the morality, it's the hypocrisy, stupid... |
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spooky3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #49 |
99. to be fair, though, |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 10:28 AM Response to Reply #4 |
72. Indeed! |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #4 |
80. Duping millions of people into supporting them is not a private matter. nt |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 12:01 AM Response to Reply #80 |
122. So, You Only Liked Him Because You Thought He Was Faithful to His Wife? |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 09:27 AM Response to Reply #122 |
125. Well said. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
5. To an extent, I agree. They're smart enough to realize that this scandal would effectively |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 09:06 AM Response to Reply #5 |
62. Now that I think about it, I am coming to your point of view re Elizabeth. |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
7. . |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
8. I believe you are correct. nt |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
10. BULLFUCKINGSHIT. Not her job to out him. He wasn't man enough to come clean before he was caught. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:20 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. You might want to read what SHE has to say about it. I mean before you |
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charlyvi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 10:23 AM Response to Reply #10 |
69. It was her job to point out to him in the beginning, that should he be nominated, |
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bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
11. So they're a normal American family. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:25 PM Response to Reply #11 |
23. I'd like to see them left alone, too. They are fine, decent people who, above all else |
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charlyvi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 10:53 AM Response to Reply #11 |
78. They're not a normal American family. |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
13. sadly, I agree. nt |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
14. Yep, you're absolutely correct |
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comrade snarky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #14 |
101. Ego and a desire for power |
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dansolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
19. She should have convinced him not to run |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:23 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Yup... What happens in Edwards Big House |
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charlyvi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 10:14 AM Response to Reply #19 |
66. Perhaps |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
21. I'll flame. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:32 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Please see my post #23 above. |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:43 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Actually, no. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:47 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. She perpetuated the lie. Condemn him, you condemn her. |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:50 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. And that's what I'm saying is despicable. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:56 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Thanks! |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 11:09 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. You are welcome, laughter and all. nt |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 10:45 AM Response to Reply #33 |
77. Oh Bullshit. What 'lie' did she perpetuate? |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #77 |
82. Every time she went to a fundraiser and asked for funds KNOWING he would |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #82 |
86. Don't agree at all. |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 11:00 AM Response to Reply #31 |
84. Maybe the people who contributed to "their" campaigns without knowing.. |
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charlyvi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #84 |
98. We have a winner! n/t |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 11:36 PM Response to Reply #84 |
120. Maybe so. I can't complain about how others choose candidates. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:45 PM Response to Reply #21 |
32. No. She lied to those of us who trusted her most. |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 11:08 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. How do you know she didn't tell him that? |
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Mad_Dem_X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #21 |
92. I agree. |
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colinmom71 (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #21 |
95. I agree. (nt) |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
24. What the hell does this have to do |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:40 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. I really don't care. I just can't believe the level of vilification and hatred |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 06:33 AM Response to Reply #28 |
56. Exept that wasn't the end of it. |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 08:12 AM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Golly. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 10:37 AM Response to Reply #56 |
73. Well.... |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 05:16 PM Response to Reply #56 |
117. Nobody's defending him. |
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RoadRage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
26. To me.. she's the same as Hillary.. Spitzer's wife.. etc. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:41 PM Response to Original message |
29. You are absolutely right. Neither of them told the truth, |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:43 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. I actually think they're impulse to continue to serve was admirable, but the |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
38. I am hurt by them both. |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 11:22 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. No. You are hurt every day by a criminal GOP administration |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 11:33 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. I can be hurt by both. |
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Laura PourMeADrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
41. Just like Hillary, really. She bent over backwards all those years |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #41 |
91. ...for political gain. "Hillary was the one that handled the bimbo eruptions." nt |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
46. Nope. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
47. Yeah, clifford, blame the spouse who was cheated on. Like it was her job to out him. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 12:13 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. My point is, and I'll speak. very. slowly. |
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charlyvi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 10:27 AM Response to Reply #51 |
71. Bingo. n/t |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #51 |
112. "Slime him, you slime them both." - utter nonsense from start to finish |
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Fire Walk With Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 12:04 AM Response to Original message |
48. Bush should be convicted of 35+ counts of unconstitutional crime against America. |
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prayin4rain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
50. nope just him |
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republicansarewhores (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 12:26 AM Response to Original message |
52. You people really don't get it do you. |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #52 |
85. A-friggin-Men! nt |
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comrade snarky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #52 |
103. Cheating IS bad |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 05:40 AM Response to Original message |
53. Maybe they thought it wasn't anybody else's business |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 10:39 AM Response to Reply #53 |
74. Yep, that's what I think. |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #53 |
110. Then they were clueless about the political reality in this country. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 05:45 AM Response to Original message |
54. It's true that she shares some responsibility, but it is very different. |
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Apollo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 05:56 AM Response to Original message |
55. I do have a couple of questions for Elizabeth |
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Dammit Ann (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 06:37 AM Response to Original message |
57. BLEHHHH! |
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remember2000forever (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 08:06 AM Response to Original message |
58. Hmmmmm, I wonder just how long she has known.... |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 08:11 AM Response to Original message |
59. No flames here. That is an astute observation. She doesn't seem like a shrinking |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #59 |
75. I think you are absolutely correct. She is NOT a shrinking violet. |
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Fla Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
63. This is a 2 part deception, Elizabeth was the victim in the 1st part |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #63 |
90. Right. There are two separate issues at play here (as I stated on a previous thread - |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
64. Message to DU: Ignore all Edwards Threads |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
65. I am. n/t |
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LibraLiz1973 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
67. I am. |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
68. I'm only angry at the hypocrisy. The affair is between them. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #68 |
76. Yep, yep and yep. |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
79. They both duped Dems (except for me) into believing in them. I always |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #79 |
83. Interesting take. That actually makes more sense than a lot of things I've read.... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
81. SHE didnt have the affair. SHE didnt run for office. ALL on edwards shoulders |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 11:03 AM Response to Reply #81 |
87. She did run for office. The Edwards always presented themselves as a team. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #87 |
88. regardless of her connection to him the FACT is he ran for president |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 11:07 AM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Elizabeth was just as ambitious and always seemed to want it more than |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #89 |
94. and edwards CHOSE to have the affair. edwards CHOSE to run for president |
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comrade snarky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #94 |
107. You really think they aren't a team? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. i said nothing about innocent. i am talking about who is responsible |
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comrade snarky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #108 |
111. For the affair, yes. I agree |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 02:56 PM Response to Reply #111 |
113. i can certainly respect and understand why you feel as you do |
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Clear Blue Sky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
100. His behavior was reckless and displayed poor judgement. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. Don't bring a too-adult view into this, it distracts from the flaming. |
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Clear Blue Sky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. Indeed... |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
105. Keeping silent and cheating on your wife who is fighting cancer aren't the same n/t |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
106. I think both of them displayed very poor judgement in this. |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
114. I am not angy at her, what choice did she have? |
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Fla Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #114 |
119. She is a strong woman in her own right. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
115. Here's my working theory on why she's not accountable. |
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Fla Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. Okay...saying we buy that version of events......... |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 05:53 PM Response to Reply #115 |
118. That could turn out to be the true turn of events. Time will tell. Something is |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 09:07 AM Response to Reply #118 |
123. the story is beginning to take shape |
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deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
121. I am just angry at you for being a dumbass. |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
124. Somewhat |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
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