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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 07:41 PM
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The Pipeline War: Russian bear goes for West's jugular
Edited on Sat Aug-09-08 07:51 PM by DogPoundPup
The war in Georgia escalated dangerously last night after Russian jets reportedly bombed a vital pipeline that supplies oil to the West.

After a day of heightening international tensions, Georgian leaders claimed that the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline, which transports oil from the Caspian Sea to Turkey, had been attacked. But it is thought the bombs missed their target.

Their claims came after Russian jets struck deep into the territory of its tiny neighbour, killing civilians and ‘completely devastating’ the strategic Black Sea port of Poti, a staging post for oil and other energy supplies.

Georgian economic development minister Ekaterina Sharashidzne said: ‘This clearly shows that Russia has targeted not just Georgian economic outlets but international economic outlets as well.’

The pipeline is 30 per cent owned by BP and supplies 1 per cent of the world’s oil needs, pumping up to a million barrels of crude per day to Turkey.

It is crucial to the world’s volatile energy market and the only oil and gas route that bypasses Russia’s stranglehold on energy exports from the region.

As President Bush led the West in intensifying pressure on Russia to halt the bombing in Georgia last night, the two countries were edging closer to full-scale war over their conflicting claims for disputed territory.

Georgia’s President Mikheil Saakashvili called for a ceasefire and accused Moscow of mounting an unprovoked invasion that put ‘the entire post-Cold War order of Europe and the world at stake’.

But Moscow said that the conflict could not be resolved unless Georgia withdrew from its breakaway region of South Ossetia. The alarming developments followed a second day of drama and bloodshed in the pro-Western country

To read more ... http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23530246-details/article.do?ito=newsnow&

Also read: Russia's 'Full Scale Invasion' of Georgia (Updated, with Video)

<snip> The Russian defense ministry tells the New York Times that "100 planeloads of airborne troops" will be flown into the conflict zone -- on top of the 2,500 troops already estimated to be in the country.

A senior Georgian security official said that Russian ships were moving toward Georgia’s Black Sea Cost in order to land ground troops, and that 12 Russian jets were bombing the Kadori Gorge in Abhazia, another breakaway region that hugs the Black Sea.

Russian jets have also been targeting Georgia's oil pipeline; the Georgians say they've already shot down 10 of the Russian jets. President Bush has called for "an end to the Russian bombings."

"The attacks are occurring in regions of Georgia far from the zone of conflict in South Ossetia. They mark a dangerous escalation in the crisis," he added. "Georgia is a sovereign nation and its territorial integrity must be respected. We have urged an immediate halt to the violence and a stand-down by all troops."

James Taub writes that "the border between Georgia and Russia, in short, has been the driest of tinder; the only question was where the fire would start."
http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/08/georgia-latest.html
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 07:55 PM
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1. Russia is sending the US a message in light of threats made against Iran by US and Israel
and in light of the fact that we currently have 3 additional aircraft carriers heading for the Straits of Hormuz....
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 07:56 PM
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3. No
Russia is clamping down on territories and resources it wishes to dominate. This has little to do with us, with the exception that they were unhappy with Georgia's desire to join NATO.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 07:59 PM
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5. All of the above.
And watch the price of crude futures shoot up on Monday.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 07:56 PM
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2. Jesus Christ: when will nation's learn not to bomb and invade other sovereign
nations? Have they learned nothing from Sep 1, 1939? What a pity the world no longer has a superpower with the moral authority and suasion to jawbone and help keep the peace by enforcing UN mandates in behalf of the beleaguered nation and for the entire civilized world. Just another dream of the world blown to smithereens by the chickenhawk neocons. Let's give another hip-hip-hooray for the chickenhawk neocons and their wet dream of perpetual pre-emptive war. :D
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 07:57 PM
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4. And the US lost the credibility and standing to make statements like this....
"Georgia is a sovereign nation and its territorial integrity must be respected. We have urged an immediate halt to the violence and a stand-down by all troops."

After invading Iraq!!!
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:00 PM
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6. Paybacks are a bitch
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:02 PM
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7. Payback to whom?
The Georgians?

What a stupid fucking thing to say.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:05 PM
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8. No - US!
This is not about Georgia

This is about the US and Iran
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:24 PM
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9. Pig ignorant.
This has nothing to do with Iran. There is long-standing tension between these two states, complicated by a separatist movement, Georgia's desire to join the NATO alliance, and the Russian desire to monopolize natural resources.

Not everything is about the US.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:27 PM
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10. I'm only talking about the pipeline bombed
Edited on Sat Aug-09-08 08:28 PM by Taverner
Everything else Georgia and Russia has nothing to do with us

but the pipeline?

That's payback

Oh, and FUCK YOU ASSHOLE
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:31 PM
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12. Kiss kiss. Love you too. nt
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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:30 PM
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11. here are a few facts ...
worth noting about Georgia and the current behavior of its president, Russia, and decision makers in Washington:

* First, let's be clear: there are two reasons only we care about Georgia: the oil pipelines that go through its territory, and the opportunity it provides to run aggressive policies towards Russia.

* Second, let's also be very explicit: this conflict is not unexpected: it is a direct consequence of our policies, in particular with respect to Kosovo (and to all those that will claim that "no one could have predicted" this, let me point out to this comment, or this earlier one, or this article). I would even go so far as to say that it was egged on by some in Washington: the neocons.

* Third, our claims to have the moral high ground are totally ridiculous and need to be fought, hard. This is not about democracy vs dictature, brave freedom lovers vs evil oppressors, but a nasty brawl by power-hungry figures on both sides, with large slices of corruption. The fact that this is turned into a cold-war-like conflict between good and evil is a domestic political play by some in Washington to reinforce their power and push certain policies that have little to do with Russia or Georgia. That needs to be understood.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/9/82642/19523/204/565266
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