Just a thought: Politicians should be like Arnold S in Calif.

[leftyladyfrommo]

I ws thinking about him after all of this Edwards stuff.

Arnold is just Arnold. He has a pretty outlandish sexual history but no one cares. He never bothers to deny anything because its probably all true.

And no one even seems to care about it. You just have to take Arnold as he is. And he has been a really popular politician.

Maybe more politicians should be like him. He has a history. He couldn't care less. If you don't like him don't vote for him.

[Taverner]

1. Kind of agree with you HOWEVER, I know another "take me or leave me" politico

And that man's name is Bush. Dubya Bush.

[leftyladyfrommo]

4. Well, voters need to take responsibility for their candidates.

I never could understand what anyone saw in Bush. Cocky, arrogant and really just not very bright. With a history of just one major failure after another.

But I have always kind of liked Arnold. I kind of wonder about his wife - but that's their business.

[Taverner]

5. The GOP feels the same way about Arnie that we do about Holy Joe

So he must be doing something right

Although I really with he wouldn't go budget slashing right now

[csziggy]

2. He can leave it alone since the press will never push the stories about Arnie

If a Democratic politician had Arnie's history of drug use, sexual misconduct and disrespect for women, they would be drawn and quartered in the press. But Arnie gets a complete pass. It is not that he doesn't care, it is that no reporter, no newspaper, no media outlet will make an issue of Arnie's very questionable past.

[leftyladyfrommo]

8. Oh, yea they do.

I read stuff about his past pretty often. Doesn't matter. Its all on record - a lot of it on film.

If its all out there it is pretty hard to make too big a deal out of it.

I'm not sure if voters in Missouri, say, or Kansas would vote for him. They probably wouldn't make too big a deal about his sexual history but they wouldn't like how far left he is.

But I have a feeling that they would still like him even if the religious right was having hissy fits.

[csziggy]

15. There has never been the kind of media feeding frenzy we see for Edwards

And that we saw for Clinton - both over consensual affairs. Unlike Arnie who groped unwilling women and all he gets is a mention without all the hoopla. The only Repub who came close was Larry Craig and that was because it was "gay".

[Bob Dobbs]

3. Corporofascist media double standard.

As mentioned before, serial drug abuser, group gay sex participant, sexual abuser and proto-fascist Arnold gets a free pass for a litany of perversion, any one of which would have a Democrat's life ruined by the republipress.

[npk]

6. The difference is people knew what they were getting

when they voted for Arnold. He, like most Hollywood stars, lives a carefree life. With other politicians the persons background often isn't as transparent.

[leftyladyfrommo]

10. And it is California. People on the coasts seem to be a lot more

liberal.

I would vote for someone I really liked even if they had a history of stuff. I have a history of stuff that some religious hypocrits wouldn't like much. I don't care. I couldn't stand to live the lives they live. Would absolutely make me crazy.

[npk]

11. BTW, just to clarify

I'm not saying any politicians personal life is any of our business. And if I had intended on voting for Edwards, his affair wouldn't have changed my decision.

[leftyladyfrommo]

13. I was pretty disappointed with him.

I was a huge Edwards supporter. But having an affair when you are trying to run for president - after all of the scandals here lately that have brought some really powerful men down - shows horrible judgement.

[Jack Rabbit]

7. He'd be even better if he knew what to do

But that's asking too much of a politician.

[leftyladyfrommo]

9. Does anyone know what to do?

The guy's got guts. I am constantly amazed by him.

[Jack Rabbit]

12. We taxpayers pay him to know what to do

I'm a Californian. Five years ago, we recalled a governor not for any wrongdoing but because he didn't have a clue what to do about the budget mess that was not entirely of his making and because he spent way too much time fund raising. We replaced him with Arnold, who doesn't have a clue what to do with the budget mess and who spends way too much time fund raising.

I'll agree he's more fun to watch, but I'd rather watch him in one of his movies than on the 6 o'clock news.

[Joe Fields]

14. I think a distinction needs to be made here. Arnold was single when he

strutted around like a big dog. Edwards was married.

As far as I know, he (Arnold) has not cheated on his wife.

[csziggy]

16. No, there were allegations of him groping women after he married Maria

And what about the allegations of verbal spouse abuse after they were married? That little tidbit never made the major media.

Maria married him in 1986. There were allegations of him groping women as late as 2000: http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1002-01.htm

[Joe Fields]

18. Allegations and denials....no proof or admission of guilt, unlike Edwards.

[csziggy]

19. Yeah, because Arnie only abused women who were less powerful than him

And who dared not - and still dare not - go against him. Almost every woman who reported a groping incident worked as a lower level worker in the film industry and was worried if they reported it or sued they would never work again.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1002-01.htm

[seabeyond]

17. he, at the least, molested women against their will and he had to pay them off

of course he doesnt care. hence why he did it. but it isnt something i respect nor admire