Kansas bishops say a vote for pro-choice Dems is a vote for "evil"

[proud2BlibKansan]

While they don't come right out and say it as plainly as the headline above does, the four bishops in Kansas made it pretty plain what they believe are the civic duties of their fellow Roman Catholics this election season.

Duty No. 1, vote. "Voting is a moral act," the bishops said in a letter reprinted in the Aug. 10 bulletin of Holy Trinity Catholic Church in Lenexa.

Duty No. 2: Vote pro-life, but only as it pertains to abortion and stem-cell research. Life issues like the death penalty and war are debatable. But not gay marriage.

If you've ever wondered how the church justifies such distinctions (hair splitting is another term for it), here in their own words is the explanation from bishops Ronald Gilmore of Dodge City, Paul Coakley of Salina, Michael Jackels of Wichita and Joseph Naumann, archibishop of Kansas City in Kansas:

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[antigop]

1. I guess these bishops missed the fact that the Repugs controlled BOTH houses and the Presidency

and a majority of the Supreme Court justices were appointed by Repugs

and abortion is STILL legal.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

2. And..don't touch certain parts of your body.

[Warpy]

8. And if you're female, you're going to hell because

you'll cause precious men to have impure thoughts about your body. You're an occasion of sin and condemned for it.

Men, apparently, are off the hook because it's all your fault if you're a woman.

And they wonder why I left before I was out of grammar school.

[fascisthunter]

3. I Love When Hate-Filled Charlatans Speak of Morality

[JVS]

4. How is gay marriage a pro-life issue?

While I don't agree with their guidelines, they are not put in partisan terms and art therefore kosher. They are also consistent with what I understand to be Roman Catholic teaching on the issues of Abortion, war, and the DP and their relative importance.

[proud2BlibKansan]

6. It's an abomination!!

:sarcasm:

[JVS]

7. Even if one believes that, nobody gets killed by gay marriage!

I thought to be a pro-life issue, there had to be some kind of body-count/ fetus-count involved.

[Warpy]

9. All those tiny, perfect man seeds contained in semen

are wasted when they're not planted within a female flowerpot.

Yes, Mother Rome still thinks this garbage is true.

[proud2BlibKansan]

10. There ya go being all logical

:rofl:

[SheilaT]

15. It has to do with the notion

that the essential purpose of marriage is to procreate, and same gender couples can't procreate. Adoption doesn't count, nor do they forbid marriage where one partner is infertile or the woman is past menopause, so there's a lot of either hypocrisy or fuzzy thinking here, I'm just not sure which.

[proud2BlibKansan]

21. About 15 years ago my DH was working for a senior citizens residence center

and 2 of the residents fell in love and decided to get married. They were in their 80s. She was Catholic and he agreed to convert to Catholicism to marry her. So they went to the local parish priest and he refused to marry them because they had already moved in together.

So they had a beautiful non-denominational wedding at the center where they lived and DH invited me to the wedding. As soon as I got there, I noticed a bunch of empty chairs and heard all the other residents who were there gossiping about the other residents who refused to attend the wedding because this couple had been living in sin.

I kid you not. They were in their freakin 80s!!!

[mnhtnbb]

5. F*cked any little boys, lately, bishops? Covered it up? Supported a nazi regime?

Fathered any kids out of wedlock? Run any Inquisitions?

Take the log out of your own eyes, bishops, and remember you're in a country that still has separation
of church and state.

[VP505]

13. Yep!

:thumbsup:

[AspenRose]

11. DesertedRose sez a vote for pro-war GOP is a vote for "evil"

:eyes:

[benld74]

12. I am Catholic(but I guess not CATHOLIC) and can never,,,

understand how some can follow everything they say you should do, especially when it comes to politics! I know some individuals who vote based strictly on these issues ALONE, NO MATTER what else the person they put into office does to all their other brethern across the country!

[proud2BlibKansan]

14. FARC here

I left years ago because of just this kind of hypocrisy. My uncle is also a priest and was treated badly by his bishop (in Kansas). But I went to Mass once in awhile with my mom. Then when the pedophile scandal was exposed, I made a vow to NEVER again step foot in a Catholic church except for my mom's funeral. She died in 2006. I have been back for my aunt's funeral and I have a few more relatives whom I will honor at funerals when they die. But that's it. Catholicism lost me a long time ago.

[ColbertWatcher]

16. Well, I'll drink to that! Here's to evil! And another to sinners as well! n/t

[Iris]

17. Everytime I entertain the slightest possibility of going back to that church, I see somethingl like

this to remind me that they don't want me.

[jakefrep]

18. So who, exactly, are Catholics supposed to vote for?

Both parties contain significant deviations from Church positions.

Isn't this meddling the sort of thing that made people afraid to vote for JFK?

[Solly Mack]

19. fuck the bishops

[anonymous171]

20. Voting for war mongers/death penalty advocates/eat-the-poor repugs is definitely not pro-life.