New Year's baby's death shatters family, relationships

[a kennedy]

This is just so so sad....

CUYAHOGA FALLS, Ohio (CNN) -- Camryn Jakeb Wilson was bathed in TV lights the day he was born, celebrated on the local news as Summit County's 2008 New Year's baby after his arrival at 12:33 a.m. on January 1.

Just 12 weeks later, he was bathed in warm water minutes after he quietly died in his mother's arms, the victim of shaken baby syndrome. Camryn's 9-year-old sister, Tabatha, asked why he needed a bath now.

"We have to get him ready to go to Jesus," a nurse softly replied. Tabatha took up a sponge to help.

Camryn's father, Craig R. Wilson, 28, of Cuyahoga Falls, is scheduled for a pretrial hearing on murder and other charges August 20. Police say he confessed to shaking and squeezing the infant after arguing with his wife, Crystal Wilson.

But he has pleaded not guilty to all the charges and faces trial in September.

"There are no excuses for this to happen to any baby," Crystal Wilson, 26, told CNN. "This is murder. He had no reason to die. He died because he cried."

Full article: http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/15/shaken.baby/index.html

[snappyturtle]

1. How awful! We lost a baby grandson 11 weeks old to a virus and

THAT was devastating enough. It's been very hard on the family.

[Lars39]

7. My condolances, snappyturtle.

:hug:

[theboss]

2. I can't read this stuff

I only got halfway through. Jesus.

[Lance_Boyle]

3. must be post-birth psychosis

lets hope this poor man is able to get treatment for his unfortunate condition - he will surely grieve for the rest of his life over the tragedy his disease caused.

[hlthe2b]

4. Jesus! You are equating this case of child abuse on the part

of a male to the very real sydrome of post partum (hormonally-induced) depression in new mothers?


That is just despiccable.

[Romulox]

6. A very telling statement from you!

"You are equating this case of child abuse on the part of a male to the very real sydrome of post partum (hormonally-induced) depression in new mothers?"

You imply that there is a different standard for abuse "on the part of a male", and that, conversely, abuse "on the part of a female" is something to be explained away. You might want to examine your own biases.

[Donnachaidh]

8. oh dear --

Calling someone biased because they informed someone that a *syndrome* caused by FEMALE hormones cannot be applied wrong? Do cite and provide links for cases that show that men have been diagnosed with this syndrome. And the usual yellow rags like the Enquirer or newspapers with batboys on their covers -won't- do.

:eyes:

[Romulox]

10. Pssst...the poster who mentioned PDD was being sarcastic.

His point was to point out the double standard applied when a woman commits a crime against a child.

The poster I responded walked right into the trap by implying there was a categorical difference between "equating this case of child abuse on the part of a male (sic)," with violence against children on the part of a woman.

[hlthe2b]

11. NO, the POSTER did NOT.... There is a very very real syndrome

related to post partum hormones that CAN cause an otherwise non-violent woman to hurt herself or her chiild. That you would disparage this as being very real, by suggesting there is no difference in men who murder their children and the rare post-patum woman who may do so, shows YOUR IGNORANCE, misogyny and worse...

[Romulox]

16. You are assuming that no one but you knows about Post Partum Depression.

Bizarre assumption. :shrug:

"by suggesting there is no difference in men who murder their children and the rare post-patum woman who may do so, shows YOUR IGNORANCE, misogyny and worse..."

Nobody here has suggested this (but you.) I think the implication may be that PDD is not a total and complete defense in every instance of child abuse perpetrated by a woman.

[hlthe2b]

19. Not at all, perhaps you can take your blinders off ...

:eyes:

I hope you are never impacted by something so serious, but which you take so lightly.

[Gormy Cuss]

15. Using postpartum psychosis as the comparative made it pointless

just as your latching on to the phrasing of the other poster about "abuse on the part of the male" misses the point of that post. Postpartum psychosis is a recognized mental illness specifically tied to childbirth and suspected to be linked to the hormonal changes involved. Gender is absolutely relevant to this one specific category of parental harm to an infant. Using "post- birth psychosis" as a sarcastic term to make an argument about gender-based treatments of child abusers falls flat.

[Dora]

12. Men can get depressed after the birth of a child.

It's real. It's not the same as a mother's post-partum depression, but it does exist.

Add to that some serious sleep deprivation, marital discord, and alcohol abuse, then it's a recipe for potential tragedy. I'm not excusing anyone's abuse - I'm saying that the factors for abuse to happen were there.

I've had post-partum depression - and I watched my husband go through it too. There's nothing despicable about it.

[hlthe2b]

13. Anyone can become depressed. That is NOT the same as

hormonally induced post partum depression. No one is saying men do not become depressed nor that it could not be signficant in inducing violence. But this is distincly different from post-partum depression in women--VERY distinctly different. Those equating the two suggest to me that they do not believe PPD is even real.

[Dora]

14. Yes - but the post didn't say that PPD isn't real.

That's what you're inferring. You may be right - I don't know the poster. But I read it and I thought it was sincere.

I, for one, wish more people would start discussing men's mental health as well as women's. It's all too easy to blow off some guy as an "asshole" or "psycho" when he's depressed, angry, and needs help.

[Romulox]

17. Thanks for your great posts to this thread. nt

[hlthe2b]

18. No, that is what they were inferring.

I do agree that mental health issues are globally important--across the genders, age groups, and races-- often misunderstood, and more often the subject of scorn, ignorance, and bigotry. Totally unacceptable, but not surprising in a country that places no premium on its nations physical health, much less mental health....

[Dora]

20. I saw no such implication in that post.

I don't know, but you may have good reason for making the inference that you did.

[hlthe2b]

21. At least four other posters thought so as well and responded..

back to him.

[Dora]

22. Perhaps he was being sarcastic, as you (and others) claim.

Nonetheless, an accidental or inadvertent truth is still the truth.

[gatorboy]

5. You're saying the man had post partum?

Congratulations on the most idiotic post of the day (But it is early).

[theboss]

9. Either that or he is an asshole

Good heavens.