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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 02:32 PM
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Got Ammo?



These darling motifs, and others just like them, are now on tee shirts.

And blogs.

And whole web sites.

The images have an obvious meaning.

They're inciteful.

There was a recent shooting of a Democratic official in Arkansas.

The Democratic governor of Maryland has been threatened - credibly - twice in the last few months.

How long until some wacko goes to a gathering of Democrats and sprays the crowd with ammo?

Why is this not seen for the VERY REAL THREAT it is?

You know why.

So do I.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 02:44 PM
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1. What websites?
:shrug:
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 02:46 PM
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2. It won't stop unitl we fight back!
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 02:49 PM
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3. This is very OTT
At any credible shooting range, they wouldn't even let you put those up on the firing lane.

Hell, at some of them you can't use any picture of a person at all , just an outline or silhouette. Not even those "Osama" targets.

:mad:
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 03:26 PM
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14. It is OTT, but very real. I clicked the link on another post -
they have a whole wide range of anti-liberal and anti-Democrat gear, caps, t-shirts, bumper stickers.

Just good ol' American capitalists, making money off hate.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 02:49 PM
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4. and where is our "homeland security" now??
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 02:50 PM
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5. This IS the end of the convention. Get used to it.
Obama WILL be the subject of an assassination attempt. And the Secret Service will NOT be so vigilant about searching for the snipers in the stadium. Did you think voting machines were the only way Republicans have managed to keep power?

How freaking naive ARE you people?
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 02:52 PM
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8. You people????
You're painting a really scary scenario and then yelling at us - WTF???
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 03:02 AM
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 03:15 PM
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11. this is why it is sooo fucking stupid to even consider Hegel as VP, the best anti-assignation policy
is Hillery as vp...
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 03:04 AM
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18. "Assignation" policy? Who's getting the sex?
If Clinton winds up as President by assassination, and her husband is in the White House again (this time with nothing to do) there will be PLENTY of assignations.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 03:18 PM
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13. "you people"
Who you talkin' to?
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 03:01 AM
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16. You pie-in-the-sky, stupid optimists.
This is a world filled with evil and treachery. You're not bringing a knife to a gunfight, you're bringing a strongly-worded letter to the editor to a gunfight. Face it, Obama will be assassinated and a Republican will be our next President. And it won't be McCain, who will die of a (legitimate) heart attack before the nomination.
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 03:07 AM
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20. I'd be careful about sounding so sure of that...
Secret service visits have been paid for less. Just a word to the wise, feel free to disregard if you like.
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 03:46 AM
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22. The Secret Service is in on the fix.
Whose Secret Service is it, anyway? Who insisted that Texas pull its local law enforcement away from helping to guard Obama as he went into the shooting-gallery state of Texas? They've been told to "take it easy" when guarding Obama.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 08:57 AM
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27. Exactly...
I live in Dallas, and the revelation of orders to stand down on Obama's security was all the rage around here shortly after his visit to Reunion Arena.

This on top of a couple of Klans coming out and saying that they are willing to assassinate Obama in order to keep a "nigger President" from coming to power.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 02:50 PM
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 02:51 PM
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7. I reported the website via the FBI tipline.
Edited on Fri Aug-15-08 02:53 PM by sparosnare
I'm all for freedom of speech, but this goes too far. It makes me feel frightened.

They will either choose to investigate, or not; the graphic has been reported.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 04:04 PM
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15. What do you think the charge will be?
Art abuse?
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 03:10 PM
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9. Well, technically they'd spray the crowd with bullets -
spraying them with ammo would be pretty ineffective.

But it would give some pro-gun dems a thrill.
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tburnsten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 03:17 PM
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12. dOG I'd love to be sprayed with ammo!
I'd get baskets full! So much better than paying for it!
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 03:12 PM
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10. This is Why the Vice Presidential Selection is So Important
The conventional wisdom is that Obama must pick a DINO.
If he does, he is very likely to get JFKed.

Obama is going to need life insurance.

If Obama picks someone like DK for VP, he will be very safe.

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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 05:11 AM
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23. Exactly. DK can get what needs doing done and he is life insurance for BO.
What is the law regarding replacing a Congressman, mid-term, in Ohio?




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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 03:05 AM
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19. Yep, this could easily be seen as incitement to violence
It may or may not qualify as legitimate free speech, I don't know. I think there's real room to debate it, given the fact that violence against Democrats for political reasons is now occurring.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 03:28 AM
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21. Another great example of the "values" Repubs are spreading
WWJS?

I'd find this objectionable no matter which party's logo was represented. And I'd feel threatened by anyone who displayed it -- because it strongly suggests the owner has embraced the Final Solution concept of dealing with perceived enemies.
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 05:32 AM
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24. This is why I try to get my liberal friends to get weapons,
and get trained in their use. It's really the greatest of ironies, the group that actually needs weapons the most, is the most opposed to them. I have no idea why conservatives are so paranoid about the government, if you take a look at history, even recent history, they usually go after the liberals first. How many conservatives get targeted for the no-fly list? How many get herded into free speech zones? How many get their pictures taken standing at a protest by the FBI? They may get to the conservatives eventually, but it's the liberals that get first whack.

The ONLY thing conservatives understand is force, nothing else. It's like they've been reduced to a reptilian brain that can't understand anything except basic sensations. They don't 'do' nuance. If you rely on their better side coming through, at best you'll be sorely disappointed, at worst you'll be killed.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 08:59 AM
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28. Excellent work
The more Democrats and liberals who stop listening to the Brady Campaign and start training themselves on firearms, the better.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 08:44 AM
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25. Righties have been saying this for years - remember Pat
Buchanan?

I am glad some of us are finally taking them a little seriously.

mark
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 08:50 AM
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26. I do not fear images.

For dangerous people, I use Speer Gold Dots.

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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 10:15 AM
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31. Well, Congratulations To You

You've got your own ass covered, in typical guncentric macho fashion. Not exactly what we're talking about in this thread....
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 10:35 AM
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34. Don't worry Paladin, I would protect you too from the bad people if I could.
Edited on Sun Aug-17-08 10:41 AM by aikoaiko
Your reading comprehension skills are really bad today. The thread is about why don't people see the images as threats and my reply was about me not fearing the images and being prepared for actual dangerous people.

Thread Title: Got ammo? My response: I have Gold Dots.


Drink some coffe, wake up, and stop being such a weenie.

eta: ;)
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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 10:51 AM
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37. Awright!!! Gun Nut Fantasy #346!!!

"Don't you fret none, you pathetic gun-grabbing wussy liberal shit-for-brains loser! I'll shall smite the evildoers with my mighty guns and deliver you from harm, and then you'll see the error of your ways, shower me with whimpering expressions of gratitude, and get a lifetime membership in the NRA!"

God knows I see this one a lot, but somehow it just never gets old. Good advice about the coffee, though.....
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 11:08 AM
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38. These two last posts are why you are a joke.
Edited on Sun Aug-17-08 11:08 AM by aikoaiko
You erroneously assume my first post was about only protecting myself and you mocked that.

Then when I explain that I would protect even you, you mock that too.

There are few people as dishonest as you in this forum.
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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 12:08 PM
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42. You Know, It's Easy Enough To Avoid My Comments

You don't even have to put me on ignore, just hang out down in the Gun Dungeon, where I haven't participated since the Cheney hunting incident years ago. The Gungeon should be to your liking, since 95% of the content down there consists of gun militants vigorously agreeing with one another.

But when you venture up to a Real World forum here at DU, you better expect to get your feathers ruffled, even plucked in some instances. If I can be a mensch about putting up with the personal insults you've just directed at me, you can Goddamned well do likewise. Same goes for the rest of you guncentrics who venture up here into the daylight.

I stand by my prior comments.

You gave me some good advice about having some coffee, earlier; take my even better advice: have a couple of stiff belts of scotch and lighten up.....
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 01:04 PM
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43. What's this? You're being reflective?

You say, down thread, that people should take these threats seriously, but then criticize me when I say I take dangerous people seriously enough to arm myself. Are these people a threat or not? Should people defend themselves or not?

How should we take it seriously? What's your answer? Wring our hands and say, "Oh no, they scare me"? Prevent them for making those images? Jail them for it? Put conservatives/republicans in jail for their dislike/hatred of liberals? What?

I say people should do things to protect themselves -- arming themselves is one good way.

I don't mind my feathers being ruffled, but you should get used to it too. You post the contradictory stances and often mean spirited in your posts and you got called on in this thread. As far as name calling goes, 9/10 times you are the one who starts it, and then cries when someone retaliates in kind.

You'll continue to see a lot of me. Your "suggestion" that I go post elsewhere is typical of someone like you.


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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 02:21 PM
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44. Why Are You Surprised?

I'm one reflective motherfucker, when it's called for.....
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 08:59 AM
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29. The difference between them and us? They'd kill us.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 10:19 AM
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32. Aaaaaargh, Grovelbot has come to take our guns away!!!

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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 10:29 AM
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33. It's everywhere!





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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 10:38 AM
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35. Those Of You On This Thread With A "Symbols Can't You" Outlook....


....take a good hard look at these, consider the events of the last few days and weeks, and then get back to us when you've pulled your heads out of your asses....
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 11:15 AM
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39. What are you saying?
LOL
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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 11:48 AM
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40. My Apologies.

I was referring to the "Symbols Can't HURT You" comments, here.

Like aikoaiko said up thread, I should have had more coffee this morning....
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 11:50 AM
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41. I've had my ration for the morning.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 10:45 AM
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36. So is it another step to genocide?
http://www.genocidewatch.org/8stages2006.htm

and people think I'm crazy. :crazy:
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 03:18 PM
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45. They're declaring war on us
They think being different from them in any way should be a capital crime. We're lucky the death toll is only 3 so far.
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