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mojowork_n Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 09:17 AM
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MORE appalling evidence Iraq war "fixed" -- from NZ
Edited on Tue Aug-26-08 09:57 AM by mojowork_n
Regular viewers of The Daily Show may have caught one or more of author Ron Suskind appearances with Jon:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=178985&title=ron-suskind

or read about his new book, The Way of the World:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ron-suskind/the-forged-iraqi-letter-w_b_117056.html

excerpt:

The Iraq Intelligence Chief, Tahir Jalil Habbush -- a man still carrying a $1 million reward for capture, the Jack of Diamonds in Bush's famous deck of wanted men -- has been America's secret source on Iraq. Starting in January of 2003, with Blair and Bush watching, his secret reports began to flow to officials on both sides of the Atlantic, saying that there were no WMD and that Hussein was acting so odd because of fear that the Iranians would find out he was a toothless tiger. The U.S. deep-sixed the intelligence report in February, "resettled" Habbush to a safe house in Jordan during the invasion and then paid him $5 million in what could only be considered hush money.

In the fall of 2003, after the world learned there were no WMD -- as Habbush had foretold -- the White House ordered the CIA to carry out a deception. The mission: create a handwritten letter, dated July, 2001, from Habbush to Saddam saying that Atta trained in Iraq before the attacks and the Saddam was buying yellow cake for Niger with help from a "small team from the al Qaeda organization."

The mission was carried out, the letter was created, popped up in Baghdad, and roiled the global newcycles in December, 2003 (conning even venerable journalists like Tom Brokaw). The mission is a statutory violation of the charter of the CIA, and amendments added in 1991, prohibiting the CIA from conducting disinformation campaigns on U.S. soil.


Now,...An article issued last Friday by Michael Collins, of "Scoop" News, New Zealand, and confirmed by a "law and technology news blogger":

http://www.bespacific.com/mt/archives/019115.html

reveals that

"It had appeared that the White House rewrote the Oct. 1, 2002 National Intelligence Estimate and then issued that doctored report to Congress on Oct. 4, 2002. Prados reveals convincing evidence that the Oct. 4 White Paper had already been written by July 2002. He shows that it was only slightly altered after the final NIE arrived. This White Paper served as the basis for the war.

The unavoidable conclusion is that the Bush-Cheney White paper "justifying" the invasion was developed a full three months in advance of the intelligence data and analysis that should have served as the basis for that justification..."


More:

The seemingly endless war in Iraq has become a total disaster on multiple levels for all involved. The awful toll in human deaths and casualties is largely ignored but real nevertheless. Over 4,000 U.S. soldiers have been lost in battle and tens of thousands injured. In excess of one million Iraqi civilians are dead due to civil strife unleashed by the invasion. The U.S. Treasury is drained and the steep decline in respect for the United States around the world is just beginning to manifest.

The United States political establishment responds with collective denial on a scale that's incomprehensible. In the presidential campaign, the only sustained public commentary on the war comes from the Republican presidential candidate John McCain who makes the bizarre claim that U.S. is "surrendering" with victory in clear sight. McCain touts the surge without noting that 4.0 million Iraqis are "displaced from their homes." Nearly ten percent of Iraq's population is either dead or injured and there are 5.0 million Iraqi orphans.

This pathological view of victory claims the "surge' is a success in the context of a devastated population in an obliterated nation lacking in the most essential supplies and services; a nation where death continues on a shopping spree

The report by Dr. Prados makes it clear that the executive branch was responsible for creating whatever information they found necessary to justify war and they did it by posing security threats from Iraq and demanding that intelligence briefers fill in the details...


I just happened to log in to Scoop this morning. It's a great news source, and one of the guys is a D.U.'er, too. I did a google check for the National Security Archive report, but on the "web" search the only results were some hits on academic sites. The "news" search produced only two results:

White Paper Justifying Iraq War Written Three Months before Intel ...
Dissident Voice, CA - 54 minutes ago
The findings are based on new evidence compiled by Dr. John Prados and published by the National Security Archive. 1 Most notably, Prados shows the depth of ...
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/08/white-paper-justifying-iraq-war-written-three-months-before-intel-report-arrived/

It's a reprint of Michael Collins' article...


PR Push for Iraq War Preceded Intelligence Findings
Scoop.co.nz, New Zealand - Aug 23, 2008
... for data justifying an invasion of Iraq, according to a documents posting on the Web today by National Security Archive senior fellow John Prados. ...

"...The United States political establishment {and news media} respond with collective denial on a scale that's incomprehensible..."
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mojowork_n Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 09:32 AM
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1. Interview with report author, 4 years ago.
http://www.echochamberproject.com/prados

and another article on two very different types of news media I found to be pretty interesting:

http://www.echochamberproject.com/iterative_collaborative_media_open_source_code

..."Traditional media production has a distinct final product that is created, consumed and understood by the audience...

Iterative media is always being updated, improved and remixed much like the "constant beta" nature of modern software and websites..."
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lynnertic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 09:35 AM
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2. what really galls me about this is that
Robert Suskind is making a mint off of this book. Why didn't he save us all time and bring this evidence directly to ... oh nevermind.

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mojowork_n Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 09:48 AM
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3. what gets me is we're the only ones reading it.
I think he had to write out the whole story, and make it public the best way possible.

Jon Stewart and the crew at The Daily Show did their part to spread the word, but it's not like we've started to see mobs of peasants, with torches, storming any castles.

Or maybe, we just haven't seen any of those reports in the media?
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lynnertic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 09:53 AM
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5. you're right. I stopped myself because I realized
that without a book the story would be quashed too easily.
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Connonym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 05:17 PM
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10. The story needs sex to make people care
I'm only half jesting. I don't understand the mindset that gets so excited about a former nominee having an affair yet cannot seem to care that the sitting president is getting away with murder. It makes no sense to me.
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mojowork_n Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:09 PM
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11. You got that right, and I'm not half-kidding
That's a big part of the difference between "pre-packaged" news, and "open source" news...

Those links, above, to the "echo chamber" website, about "iterative" news gathering.

I think it would be a positive step to write those guys, and make sure that from now on all of their news stories are also available as web videos, with stunningly attractive, "buck naked" news readers (of both genders) providing dramatic readings of the text... while jumping up and down on trampolines...

I mean, Bush has one. (Minus the trampoline. I don't think she has the mental or physical agility.)





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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 09:52 AM
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4. So what we have here is another concrete link in the chain from PNAC in 1997, through DSMs, to
Forged Yellow-cake invoice, to a July 2002 White House White Paper. Is this a correct characterization?
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mojowork_n Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 09:55 AM
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6. I think the technical term is...
"Bingo" You got it.

Our Senators used that White Paper in doing their due diligence and "research" when they voted to approve the war.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:06 AM
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7. There are some Grassroots folk who will be quite interested in this.
I'll send to my lists. Let's keep it kicked around here. We also need some folks to use the Share engines.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:51 AM
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8. Congress demanded a NIE before voting to authorize the use of force,
so that one was slapped together very quickly, primarily under Cheney's direction.

Now we know where the bulk of it came from.

K&R.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:54 PM
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9. Kick for this and for the Michael Collins article!
I think Michael Collins is WUNNNNNNNderful!!!

:patriot:
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