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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:03 PM
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Some newspapers are cancelling AP services.
I ran across this diary at Daily Kos. I found it interesting, that for whatever reasons...many papers are cancelling the news services of the Associated Press.

I would like to think it is their new editorializing policies, that it was all the communications the netroots have had. But I have no clue.

Newspapers cancel AP Services

The Minneapolis Star-Tribune is the latest paper to cancel AP service. In Washington, The Spokesman Review of Spokane canceled around the same time that The Bakersfield Californian cut ties. Several smaller newspapers have joined in. In Ohio, eight of the top newspapers, including The Cleveland Plain Dealer, The Columbus Dispatch, The Cincinnati Enquirer and The Toledo Blade, decided to create their own network, the Ohio News Organization. Now they share local news without submitting it to the AP.

The reason is that with multiple 24-hour news networks, countless news sites online, and even news content on cell phones, consumers can access news from almost anywhere for free. Commoditized news like what the AP offers doesn't add much value to a newspaper while costing newspapers hundreds of thousands, even millions of dollars a year. Even after newspapers demanded the Associated Press reduce its fees next year, that cut of approximately 10% still makes the AP a very large budget item for progressively smaller newspaper budgets.

The Associated Press's response to the changing media landscape has been less than impressive. Most famously, it was ridiculed for trying to charge bloggers for using five-word excerpts at up to $2.50 a word. With the increasing threat of mass newspaper cancellation, it's easy to understand why the AP has been so reactive and heavy-handed lately. While Ron Fournier's predecessor worries, "I just hope he doesn't destroy it", the slow death of the AP may continue regardless.


They had begun the practice of editorializing and opinionizing under the leadership of Kathleen Carroll and Ron Fournier...and much of it had a rightward tilt.

Another opinionizer at the AP

This is subtly done by Liz Sidoti of the AP. She starts her piece on Biden, the attack person, as though it will be fair and impartial. But check on down in the article...just a sentence here and there. It is like they are becoming an opinion source instead of news.


Here is some of what she wrote about Joe Biden.

Biden begins by biting.


He jabbed at McCain, a Vietnam prisoner of war who is arguably the county's most vocal supporter of the U.S. mission in Iraq, next to Bush. Said Biden: "These times require more than a good soldier. They require a wise leader. A leader who can deliver."

that the Republican can't change the country when he offers more of the same, though he left out details and cherry-picked quotes as he sought to make his case.


Cherry-picked, just as the AP has been doing.

More about it.

AP has a Fournier problem

Ron Fournier says he regards Sandy Johnson, his predecessor as head of The Associated Press’s Washington bureau, as “a mentor.” Johnson, though, regards Fournier, who replaced her in a hard-feelings shake-up in May, as a threat to one of the most influential institutions in American journalism.

..." Fournier is a main engine in a high-stakes experiment at the 162-year old wire to move from its signature neutral and detached tone to an aggressive, plain-spoken style of writing that Fournier often describes as “cutting through the clutter.”

In the stories the new boss is encouraging, first-person writing and emotive language are okay."


Who knows. The trend to cancel their services probably started before we as activists griped. But it is nice to think we made a difference.
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PhiBetaCretin1 Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:23 PM
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1. Geez, one more nail in the coffin of good journalism
<sigh> "first-person writing and emotive language are okay" - - - blech.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:27 PM
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2. good. nt
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:55 PM
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3. can't wait till they're dead - and Fournier along with them....
..metaphorically speaking.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 12:45 AM
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4. It used to be that readers didn't realize when their local paper was just
printing verbatim the AP feed. But now, we readers find the same story, the same language -- identical text or near identical text -- reprinted in various newspapers. It's a dead giveaway that the story is taken from AP. There are other feeds, but AP is the most commonly used. The newspapers' secret is no secret any more.

Making the articles more "personal" is a disastrous strategy. As long as the AP articles were kind of neutral, readers were less likely to realize that they come from some common source. But, the more "personal" the articles are, the less they work for information feed.

Fournier's strategy will be the downfall of AP -- probably a good thing.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 02:06 AM
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5. From one editor's blog
Notwithstanding the above, most newspaper editors are fighting desperately to retain local staff. If I can save $400,000 by dropping AP, I may avoid additional staff reductions in the coming year. Why wouldn’t I trade wire dispatches from Bangladesh for local news reporters? The current economic climate gives me no choice, irrespective of my concerns for rates and content. A rate reduction of $30,000 dollars, give or take, won’t save a single job.

http://www.stillanewspaperman.com/2008/08/19/the-ap-rift/">The AP rift

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 10:52 AM
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24. The link is a good read explaining the situation with AP...n/t
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 02:12 AM
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6. I just started a news magazine; we got NY Times headline feed free.
AP is also involved in a ridiculous case in which it claims nobody can post more than a few words from any AP story. This is absurd, clearly violating the fair use principal which has always held that one can quote up to 4 paragraphs of a story, provided that is less than half the total.

I decided on principal not to even price out AP headlines. Instead we asked UPI for a quote, but they wanted hundreds of dollars a month, so we took the free NYT ones instead.

I'd love some feedback on our new site. Everything is up and done for our Sept. 1 launch, except we're tweaking the calendar design: www.eastcountymagazine.org

I'm the editor and wrote a grant to start up the magazine, which covers the eastern region of San Diego County.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 02:28 AM
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7. The title Back Fence Blog could be fronted a little
under your great logo. Love that name. :)

Also, at the Take Action Center, you name DC and Sacto in the set up, but not your county seat? I don't know what that is, but it might be usefully included.

I can't imagine how much work that must have been! Wow. :wow:
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 04:07 AM
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10. I suspect the county seat of San Diego county
is San Diego. ;)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 09:47 AM
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18. Is it? Santa Clara Co's is San Jose. Isn't Oakland Alameda's?
Anything south of Venice and I'm lost. I don't think I can name another town in San Diego Co. except Potrero and that's just because of the Black Water flap. :blush:
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 10:45 AM
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22. Yes, the county seat is San Diego. The beautiful old building sits right next to the bay,
Edited on Wed Aug-27-08 10:46 AM by bob_weaver
in downtown San Diego.



San Diego County Administration building, on Harbor Drive

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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 12:20 AM
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38. Thanks for the ideas. We do plan to add county supervisors'
votes; just didn't get to it this time around (and sadly none are up for election this fall, so we focused on races where differences could be made)
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 03:51 AM
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9. congratulations! it looks wonderful. n/t
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 12:23 AM
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41. Thanks! I appreciate your kind words. It's been a labor of love.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 06:32 AM
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15. Congrats on your magazine
I'll have to check it out.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 11:04 AM
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31. Good work. I was reading your article about immigrant water stations being sabotaged.
http://www.eastcountymagazine.org/?q=0809borderangels

Heartbreaking. Keep up the good work.
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 12:21 AM
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39. Thanks, I was shocked to learn that 3 times as many people are dead
from Duncan Hunter's border fence/wall than from the terrorist attacks on 911.
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sunnystarr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 07:21 PM
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35. You did an awesome job!!
I just subscribed even though I'm in Tennessee. Keep up the great work!
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 12:22 AM
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40. Thanks, Sunnystarr! I appreciate your help.
The more subscribers we have, the easier it will be to get sponsors and more grants.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 03:41 AM
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8. This is good to note!
They need to die a quick death....nothing slow!
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 05:24 AM
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11. the way AP reacted to the selection of Biden would have been a hilarious spoof if they were not
Edited on Wed Aug-27-08 05:26 AM by Douglas Carpenter
serious:

Analysis: Obama's pick highlights his weaknesses

By RON FOURNIER

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jKhxpNmjxUCSjn3y9LWiwnFV8JAQD92O6OHG0

this was the opening line:

DENVER (AP) — The candidate of change went with the status quo.

This was the closing line:

And there's the 2007 ABC interview in which Biden said he would stand by an earlier statement that Obama was not ready to serve as president.

It seems Obama is worried that some voters are starting to agree.



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ogneopasno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 06:15 AM
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12. It has nothing to do with bias or activists griping
and everything to do with money and the fact that AP specializes in long, blowhard articles that papers just don't have the space to run anymore.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 08:34 AM
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17. Don't be too sure of that. Fox has also suffered a big drop in viewership & revenues
People have had it with GOPravda.

There's still a need for something like AP, but not AP. Maybe, it's time to break up AP under the antitrust laws after its latest attempts to preserve its domestic near-monopoly.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 10:48 AM
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23. Associated sPam. I hope McClatchy gets work out of this. n/t
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 10:55 AM
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27. How much has Fox's revenues dropped?
:shrug:
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 12:27 PM
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32. '07 Fox News viewership down 1%, Revenues $66 million below expectations
Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_and_balanced#Slogan

For the year 2007, Fox News was the number one rated cable news network. It was down 1 percent in total daily viewers and down three percent in the 25-54 year old demographic. Fox News finished 2007 as #6 rated overall cable network.<34>

______________________________________

http://www.stateofthenewsmedia.org/2008/narrative_cabletv_economics.php?cat=3&media=7

Cable News - Revenue
2007 vs. 2006, in Millions

2006 Projected 2006 Revised (difference) 2007 Projected
CNN & CNN Headline News 985 961 (-24) 1024
Fox News 754 688 (-66) 834
MSNBC 269 270 (+1) 299

Source: SNL Kagan, a division of SNL Financial LLC
Note: Numbers are estimates

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ogneopasno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 02:29 PM
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33. Working in newspapers, I know whereof I speak.
There's no need to break up AP; newspapers and TVs will do that just fine.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 04:56 PM
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34. The problem I have with AP is their attempt to intimidate and extort on-line competitors, like DKos
and this site. Another shot in the foot for AP.

Please see, http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2008/8/26/174546/873/176#c176
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 06:16 AM
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13. Glad to hear it.
The AP, which I sort of took for granted up till now, has emerged as a right-wing propaganda source similar to Fox News. This Fournier character is particularly bad, but the whole place seems to be riddled with partisans.

If they keep up like this they will eventually look like the Department Of Justice! How sad for a "news" organization to sink that low!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 06:25 AM
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14. Bookmarking
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 06:36 AM
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16. Whatever the reason, this is great news!
Stuff it, APGOP shills!
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eshfemme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 09:50 AM
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19. Good for the newspapers! Anything that gets away from the monopolization of news is good news for us
News isn't really news unless it's from diverse sources and the AP has definitely become way too monolithic an entity in the news world.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 09:58 AM
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20. AP is bringing this upon itself with it republicon-corporate propaganda
Once upon a time AP had integrity and credibility.

But they have sold out to the corporate republicon borg, and it shows.

America will be better off with them in FAIL mode.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 10:54 AM
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26. Agreed. The AP's bias is obvious to anyone with half a brain.
And it is a turn off.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 10:37 AM
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21. Good, let's hope the trend continues and AP gets a clue.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 10:53 AM
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25. I have a better example of arrogance for Fournier.
Edited on Wed Aug-27-08 10:55 AM by Uncle Joe
Arrogance is when a so called champion of the First Amendment take it up on them self to do everything in their power to betray the very concept for which it was based on. Arrogance is when a so called journalist sells out the American People's best interest by coming between them and their prospective political leaders' message for the sole purpose of distorting the message. Arrogance is the so called fourth estate deciding the American People can't determine the truth for them selves when given honest information and thus proscribe to tell the people an emotive, cherry picked, warped definition of the truth instead of the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Arrogance is when the so called free press decide in a Machiavellian deal with the devil to dumb the people down with continuous propaganda stead of enlightening them with the unaltered facts.

Fournier isn't bordering on arrogance, he's looking at it in the rear view mirror.

"Arrogance is a common vice in presidential politics. A person must be more than a little self-important to wake up one day and say, "I belong in the Oval Office."

But there's a line smart politicians don't cross — somewhere between "I'm qualified to be president" and "I'm born to be president." Wherever it lies, Barack Obama better watch his step.

He's bordering on arrogance.

The dictionary defines the word as an "offensive display of superiority or self-importance; overbearing pride." Obama may not be offensive or overbearing, but he can be a bit too cocky for his own good."

Thanks for the thread, madfloridian.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 10:58 AM
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28. And rightfully so. AP made its own bed, now they can sleep in it.



Naturally The Ledger will be one of the last holdouts to remain subscribing to their service.

Remember they were one of the few Florida dailies to endorse AWOL MonkeyBoy both times he ran.

Sometimes I think their motto is "All GOP, all the time".




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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 10:58 AM
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29. K & R
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 10:59 AM
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30. I wish the cancellations would be more directly tied to the Fournier right turn. //nt
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 08:36 PM
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36. I hope this is the start of a trend
This "Fournier problem" is one that needs to be SOLVED, toute suite.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 11:33 PM
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37. Good catch. I noticed that exceedingly biased article from Sidoti, as well...
... and chalked it up to further AP editorializing.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 01:39 PM
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42. Star Tribune disappointed with Fournier....but tired of MoveOn mails
Tough they are tired of us, but they are speaking out. That's how you make a difference.

http://www.startribune.com/opinion/27430324.html

"A message to those MoveOn.org members who are inundating me with letters about Ron Fournier, the Associated Press Washington Bureau chief: Stop it! The Star Tribune does not run letters that are part of any organized campaign. So, please, for the love of Pete, just stop it.

Having said that, these letter writers raise a legitimate point. Fournier was in discussions about joining the McCain campaign and was pretty cozy with Karl Rove while he was still in the White House. So when he wrote in a news analysis that that the selection of Joe Biden as Barack Obama’s running mate showed a lack of "self-confidence," I wonder who was doing the analysis: the AP bureau chief or the man romanced by the McCain campaign?

If he were writing for the opinion page, no problem. As the head of the AP’s most important bureau -- directing reporters and determining coverage - it’s troubling."

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