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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 11:37 PM
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Purging Alberto
On December 15, 2006, former White House counsel John Dean published a prescient article regarding the pursuit of impeachment proceedings against the current administration. Instead of aiming for George W. Bush or Dick Cheney, he argued that the best approach to the process was to begin with lower level officials and dismantle the administration’s ability to commit further malfeasance from the ground up.

There was much subsequent debate over the wisdom of targeting lower-level officials. People rightfully argued that the dual source of the problem, the president and vice president themselves, would remain at large and be able to continue with only a minor pause to appoint replacements. Meanwhile, Democrats would have spent precious political capital & time on a pyrrhic victory, achieving little more than a symbolic gesture, purchased at a great political cost.

While I share much of this feeling, the spate of politically motivated purges against prosecutors across the country and recent Senate testimony regarding habeas corpus, FBI abuses and the purge itself have given sitting Democrats a golden opportunity to execute their first strike against the Bush political machine that would deeply impair the ability of the president to pursue his agenda. A strike that is much more certain to succeed in the current beltway environment than direct pursuit of the president. Democrats should begin fast track impeachment proceedings against Alberto Gonzales.

Why Alberto?

When Dean’s logic is applied to cabinet members like Condoleezza Rice or Josh Bolten, the criticisms aired regarding this strategy seem to carry weight. When we look at the office of the Attorney General however, pursing impeachment starts to make a lot more sense. As the chief law enforcement official of United States, Mr. Gonzales enjoys a unique capacity to protect the Bush administration from investigation and prosecution. He also wields considerable retaliatory power and has shown a willingness to use the tools of the office in an aggressive, partisan fashion that even his reviled predecessor, John Ashcroft, did not. As a Bush enabler, Gonzales has few equals in the current Washington landscape.

Moreover, as the ideological bodyguard of legislation such as the USA Patriot Act and mentor to the unitary executive theory, he’s regarded as a one-man think tank among his GOP peers. Hammering out legal shields and spears for the administration from raw material provided by right-wing legal scholars such as Viet Dinh & John Yoo, he coordinates a brain trust that has successfully fended off challenges ranging from Congress to the US Supreme Court.

Via his work and coordination have come the now infamous justifications for torture, a network of secret prisons spanning the globe and suppression of FOIA via executive order 13233, which he took the time to draft himself. Taking this key player away from Bush while investigations against the vice president and others gain momentum would cripple the White House’s ability to respond aggressively toward Democratic strategy. It also would remove Gonzales from future consideration as a nominee to the Supreme Court, an action very likely to take place should another of the sitting justices step down.

The First Strike

With the busy and highly successful first 100 hours of the 110th Congress behind them, Democrats have begun gearing up to fulfill the oversight and investigatory roles which the legislature had all but abandoned in recent years. With congressional Democrats finding their voice, and with a growing record of political accomplishments accruing, the timidity of previous years has slowly begun to fade and a new dynamic on the beltway is starting to coalesce.

Given this sea change and the antipathy of many GOP lawmakers toward Gonzales, the majorities required for such a procedure would not be as difficult to achieve compared to a similar proceeding against the White House itself. While ranking Republicans might feel loyalty towards Bush and Cheney, both ostensibly voted into office by their constituents, Alberto holds an appointed position that engenders no such emotion. A man of little charisma, political history or outside achievement, he’s an easy, high value target for the process. Witness the recent hearings and reaction to the attorney general’s appearance before the Senate to see this in action, firsthand, as well as recent calls from the NYT for his removal.

As point man and public face for some of the Bush administration’s more egregious acts, he is also much easier to prosecute, as ample evidence exists of his wrongdoings. From his connections to Enron to his actions regarding illegal wiretap programs and his rejection of the Geneva Conventions, his unlawful behavior is on clear display and not obscured by layers of spokesmen, or hidden deep in executive office. Any investigation is certain to uncover a wealth of misdeeds worthy of impeachment.

Considering Donald Rumsfeld’s ouster and other movements in defense and foreign affairs personnel and policy, it also seems wise to target an area of the administration that hasn’t received a recent reorganization. Painted as a stagnant holdover, the DOJ can serve as a scapegoat for those Republicans looking to separate themselves from an increasingly unpopular White House without actually taking on the occupant himself at first. This may seem especially attractive as the 2008 election season draws closer and they seek to cleanse themselves of the taint of corruption that hangs over the GOP.

Up the Long Ladder and Down the Short Rope

In such an environment, any replacement for the Attorney General would be vetted under considerably different circumstances than those which existed in 2005, when Alberto Gonzales assumed his post. Further, after he leaves the DOJ in disgrace, all eyes would be on the appointment process. Sitting Republicans, already disenchanted and feeling the heat of failures in Iraq, would be far less likely to rubberstamp a similarly inclined appointee. Bush simply would not have the political capital to spend during the selection process as he enjoyed in previous years.

With other corruption investigations and convictions already secured, as evidenced by Patrick Fitzgerald’s prosecution of Lewis Libby, successful removal of the current Attorney General would also provide real momentum for, and possibly evidence for use in, a further impeachment proceeding against the real prize, the White House itself. With the DOD, DOJ and Office of the Vice President all mired in scandal and prosecution, the step up to a Nixon style Bush resignation or a full impeachment is a much smaller one to take. The road to removing Bush runs through Alberto Gonzales, who will surely do all in his power to stop such a process if he is not removed first.

In the meantime the White House would be politically paralyzed, unable to push its agenda, busy spending considerable time and resources in defense of previous malfeasance. This would impede such questionable pursuits as the unilateral escalation of the Iraq war and further moves against Iran without full consideration of congressional alternatives and extensive congressional oversight.

For the first time in his presidency, Bush would be forced to seek wide approval of his policies from the legislature (and a Democratic one at that). Just this alone would restore much confidence in our democracy and shine a light for Americans and our allies across the globe to see past the darkness of our times.

Use it or Lose it

Dr. James McHenry, a Maryland delegate to the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia noted that when Benjamin Franklin emerged from the Pennsylvania State House after the long task of laying out the foundations of our government, he was confronted by a questioner.

"Well, Doctor,” a woman anxiously asked, “What have we got, a Republic or a Monarchy?"

To which Franklin famously responded, “You have a Republic … if you can keep it."

We have the tools, the power and a window of opportunity to do the founders of our great nation proud. Perhaps even more significantly, we should also acknowledge our responsibility to future generations by preserving our way of life so they make also partake of these fruits of liberty.

Let’s not forget our roots, so that our children may live in more free and peaceful times, and be proud of what we accomplish today.
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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 11:39 PM
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1. Has Gonzales
Ever reported back to Leahy like he said he would?
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 11:45 PM
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2. That exchange took place on Jan 18th
Edited on Sun Mar-11-07 12:16 AM by ReadTomPaine
They met again on the 8th of this month, as both a follow up to the initial meeting and to address additional issues that have arisen since then.

A link to the transcript of the Jan 18th meeting is provided below for the curious

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/172671

Edit; corrected information regarding the meeting on the 8th
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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 11:52 PM
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3. hmm
I wonder why Leahy isn't holding to his promise to call him back??
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 12:06 AM
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4. They met on the 8th, just a few days ago
Edited on Sun Mar-11-07 12:12 AM by ReadTomPaine
Here are some details;

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/index.php?id=9378

and here's the letter that Gonzales received just prior that meeting;

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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 01:23 AM
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8. I love the smell of subpoenas in the morning. That and popcorn.
Pass the salt. :popcorn:

Hekate

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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 02:22 AM
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12. The DOJ is desperately trying to contain this situation...
whether or not they are successful remains to be seen. Given all that's happened this week and the linking of this matter to Rove, all indications are that it's going to get worse for Gonzales before it gets better.

Here's a link to a popular thread about Rove's involvement.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x385594

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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 02:33 AM
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14. After reading your OP, all I can say is "from your mouth to God's ears"
I don't know how we're ever going to get this country right again. It clearly serves a powerful group to have half the country (the so-called conservatives, who are really radical) be hate-filled and spewing venom at the other half (us, the liberals, who before this pretty much wanted to be tolerant of others), while they (the power-elite) destroy the foundations of our nation.

Very simplistic way of putting my view of the situation; suffice it to say it periodically drives me to the brink of despair.

The activity of the new Democratic Congress gives me hope, though.

Hekate

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solara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 02:42 AM
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15. It's entirely possible then that both Rove and Gonzales will go down...... nice
Seems there is a major crack forming in the BushCo levee...how ironic.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 02:58 AM
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16. Yes. Turning control of the DOJ from a strength into a weakness and a route to Rove...
would be poetic justice indeed.
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solara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 01:01 AM
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5. This is an excellent, coherent and articulate analysis of the Gonzales situation
and I agree with your conclusions completely. Gonzales on the Bench would be the coup de grace for the USA.

Certainly Gonzales is aware that his position grows more precarious with each new disclosure, so I pray that action is taken immediately and without hesitation.


K&R !

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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 01:18 AM
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7. in agreement 100%.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 01:31 AM
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9. Yes, the WH knows they are in trouble over this, thus the uncharacteristic capitulation...
that we saw from the Gonzales DOJ on the 9th. This one is red hot. If Democrats properly press and prosecute this issue, Bush's inner circle and political machine will be seriously damaged, possibly beyond repair.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 07:39 PM
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39. You mean Gonzales AT the bench, don't you?
Gonzales ON the Bench would be a disaster for the USA.

Other than that, I agree completely.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 09:00 PM
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40. This refers to Gonzales on the SCOTUS, as his name had been mentioned in the past...
Edited on Sun Mar-11-07 09:01 PM by ReadTomPaine
as a possible nominee by the Bush WH.

Gonzales on the SCOTUS could indeed be considered a coup de grâce against democracy in this country - aka a death blow.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 09:14 PM
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41. Ah, yes.
A coup de grâce against democracy.

That's what I thought you meant.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 09:16 PM
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42. Small point of clarification - I wasn't the person who posted that note, just looking to clear up...
Edited on Sun Mar-11-07 09:17 PM by ReadTomPaine
any possible misunderstanding!

:thumbsup:
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 01:16 AM
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6. Let's put Impeaching Alberto on our To Do list.

Download this and it will print out well on 8X10 paper.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 01:54 AM
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10. People have been calling for his impeachment for some time, since the Franklin raid...
Edited on Sun Mar-11-07 01:55 AM by ReadTomPaine
including high profile GOP congressmen like Darrell Issa. He's not well liked on either side of the legislative aisle.

Here's a link from 2006 calling for his impeachment over the illegal raid on Franklin's congressional offices;

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat?pid=87770
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solara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 02:21 AM
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11. Wasn't there also something regarding the recent charge that the FBI
Edited on Sun Mar-11-07 02:29 AM by solara
broke one of the "laws" in the Patriot Act.? I seem to remember reading something about the reason the FBI over reached themselves was because of a signing statement that Gonzales wrote for his Dom and added to the Patriot Act. Sorry I don't have a link or anything..

Ahhhh found one

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/11/opinion/11sun1.html


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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 02:29 AM
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13. Yes, the story broke just a day after the meeting on the 9th mentioned above.
They are in full damage control mode.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070310/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/n...

AP: Gonzales, Mueller Admit FBI Broke Law

The nation's top two law enforcement officials acknowledged Friday the
FBI broke the law to secretly pry out personal information about Americans. They apologized and vowed to prevent further illegal intrusions.

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales left open the possibility of pursuing criminal charges against FBI agents or lawyers who improperly used the USA Patriot Act in pursuit of suspected terrorists and spies.

The FBI's transgressions were spelled out in a damning 126-page audit by Justice Department Inspector General Glenn A. Fine. He found that agents sometimes demanded personal data on people without official authorization, and in other cases improperly obtained telephone records in non-emergency circumstances.

The audit also concluded that the FBI for three years underreported to Congress how often it used national security letters to ask businesses to turn over customer data. The letters are administrative subpoenas that do not require a judge's approval. "People have to believe in what we say," Gonzales said. "And so I think this was very upsetting to me. And it's frustrating. We have some work to do to reassure members of Congress and the American people that we are serious about being responsible in the exercise of these authorities," he said.



Here's the original LBN thread about the story: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2761750
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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 10:40 PM
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48. What is congress waiting for?
Gonzo is the reincarnation of AG Mitchell from the Nixon era. Mitchell was the first AG in american history to go down soon followed by tricky dick and the boys. Those boys by the way are still running the covert end of policy in this country.
Enough bullshit. Enough caucus, non binding, pork filling, sound bites and more bullshit. Get your act together and impeach his ass.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 10:49 PM
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49. I would prefer this to happen on Dem terms as well, rather than ask for resignation...
the political ramifications would be more forceful and the result considerable more disruptive to the GOP. Comparatively speaking, this would be an easy goal for Democrats.

Schumer has already provided the easy way for them, but I don't think Gonzales is going to leave quietly. As far as I'm concerned - all the better. Let them take him out and get used to some contact politics for a change.
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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 07:20 AM
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55. Resignation?
How many years did we hear the call for rummy's resignation to no avail. Every body who's running for president called for rummy to resign! Folks have proposed chenny will resign for health reasons,blah,blah,blah. Rove will resign because of the libby trial,blah,blah.
Enough BULLSHIT already! I want the my DEMs in congress to do what they were elected to do. What they swore an oath to do. What the constitution requires they do. Quit worrying about offending the left, middle, or right in this party. We're adults,we can handle it. Might not like it, but at least try.
Gonzo is prime to go down. Let's see what happens when the AG of the United States takes the fifth. You will hear the popping of rightwing nuts' heads exploding for days and days.
How can that be a bad thing? Just start. Do something constructive.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 11:26 AM
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57. Needless to say, I agree.
How the House & Senate deal with this is going to tell volumes about the next few years in the lead up to '08.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 11:34 AM
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19. But we haven't had an issue that can resonate with the public
Edited on Sun Mar-11-07 11:35 AM by alfredo
as the firing of prosecutors. It is up to us to shout "Impeach Alberto!"

the Carol Lam case should be front and center. That was clearly a case of firing a prosecutor because she had the audacity to put Republicans in jail.

We have to sell the impeachment.
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solara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 11:45 AM
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20. Agreed. This should be one of the main talking points on all the blogs
isn't that how the MSM finally gets the news? Specter is saying that he doesn't believe Iglesias' story now because he waited to report it... Chairman of the NM Republick Party, Weh, is recanting a bit and trying to fudge the time-line of his request of Rove to fire Iglesias....but what about the others? Any links to the Carol Lam story? I don't even know the names of the other fired prosecuters. Is Iglesias the only one on the firing line because of the Domenici/Wilson connection?


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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 12:03 PM
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21. Lam was the one that indicted Cunningham.
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solara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 12:10 PM
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22. Any links to that story? nt
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 12:29 PM
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24. Here's one with links
http://www.epluribusmedia.org/features/2007/gonzales_7_backgrounds_carol_lam.html


Google has a lot on her. Search DailyKos and maybe Talking Points Memo.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 02:18 AM
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53. Some highlights about Lam from that link for the curious:
The critics have speculated that Lam is being removed to cripple an investigation into corruption in Congress. Lam's office prosecuted former Congressman Randy "Duke" Cunningham, and that case has led to investigations of other lawmakers.

....

Lam was a seasoned prosecutor, having served for 14 years as an assistant US attorney before becoming a Superior Court judge. Her specialty was white collar crime, and she became chief of that office's Major Frauds Section from 1997 to 2000. Upon taking the helm of the prosecutor's office as Interim US Attorney in September 2002, she began refocusing the district's priorities. The San Diego Union-Tribune, reporting on her confirmation, quoted Lam as saying "I think white collar crime has received less attention than it deserves...There's a lot of new money in San Diego and that creates new opportunities for investment fraud, telemarketing fraud and health-care fraud."3 One of the first such investigations undertaken by Lam reveals the strategy she applies to complicated corruption cases and the course the Cunningham investigation might take had Lam not been asked to resign.

....

A federal grand jury returned 11 counts of fraud, conspiracy and money laundering against Kyle "Dusty" Foggo, executive director of the CIA until he resigned in May, and San Diego defense contractor Brent Wilkes.

Foggo is the highest-ranking CIA officer to be charged with crimes allegedly committed while working for the agency. The charges grew from the bribery scandal that landed former U.S. Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham in prison.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 12:58 PM
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25. Specter's change of heart is likely due to Alberto's last minute backroom dealing..
Here's an update clip from Singer's article at MyDD posted elsewhere in the thread:
Update <2007-3-10 15:8:55 by Jonathan Singer>: According to Paul Kane and Michael Abramowitz writing in The Washington Post, Gonzales is already trying to bolster his support among conservatives in the Senate. On the other hand, he's not doing much to rebut questions that he might leave his position soon.


Gonzales knows the danger he's in here, clearly.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 05:06 AM
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54. This one doesn't seem to be going away, it's gaining traction in both the MSM and the blogosphere
Edited on Mon Mar-12-07 05:07 AM by ReadTomPaine
In fact I'm somewhat surprised at how quickly and throughly coverage and investigation of this scandal is picking up steam, even over the weekend.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 01:05 PM
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26. True, but as many have pointed out regarding impeachment, the votes must be there...
and for that one needs a legislative body ready to go along for the ride. Of all the high value officials to target, Gonzales remains the easy prize due to the ambivalence and in some cases outright disdain many hold for him in both parties and houses of Congress.

He's the perfect loose stitch to pull and start unraveling this mess.
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solara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 08:04 AM
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56. What a great analogy...Gonzales as "The perfect loose stitch"
I am glad to hear this is picking up steam in the MSM. I don't have cable and must confess I get most of my news here at DU and at Kos. Thanks for the update. I am feeling very optimistic about the possibility that Gonzales will be called to account for his crimes against this nation, one way or another.

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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 01:37 PM
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58. It's the bipartisan antipathy that really gives this scandal its legs...
Edited on Mon Mar-12-07 01:43 PM by ReadTomPaine
Some very hardcore conservatives are ready to pull the trigger on Gonzales. I fully expect the Democratic leadership to avail themselves of this opportunity, the big question is how they will go about it.

On edit: Even on Michelle Malkin's website, a poll is running 62/38 toward giving him the boot.
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solara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:14 PM
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61. I hope they don't fire him... it would be much better if they impeached him
and questioned him under oath. Unfortunately there is so much happening right now that there may be a collective bi-partisan sigh of relief if Gonzales resigns.. but it will be an opportunity wasted as far as I am concerned. The trial of BushCo's consigliore could be the real turning point.. so, my fingers are crossed.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:42 PM
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62. Yes, no question. Dems should be the ones calling the shots here.
I don't want a passive response on this, I want the Dems to hunt him down and bag him. Enough with avoiding confrontation - they need to get used to taking on the GOP directly and grabbing the bull by the horns. The time for timidity is over.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 03:26 AM
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17. K & R - I totally agree with your conclusion.
Get rid of the enabler Gonzales first, then Cheney and then Bush.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 04:54 AM
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18. Another call for Alberto's impeachment:
http://www.mydd.com/story/2007/3/10/145657/293

Will Alberto Gonzales Last Out the Remainder of the President's Term?

Before his closed door meeting with Alberto Gonzales on Thursday, Arlen Specter, the ranking Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, all but called for the resignation of the Attorney General over the prosecutor purge scandal. During that meeting, Gonzales completely and unexpectedly backed down on one of the central issues surrounding the scandal -- whether the president should have the power, without consent of the Senate, to appoint indefinite replacements for United States Attorneys that have been summarily fired. Specter subsequently walked back his previous statement.

If that had been all that had happened on Thursday, it would have been fairly likely that Gonzales would have been able to endure this month and perhaps even remain in his position for the duration of George W. Bush's presidency. But that was not, in fact, the only news coming out of the Department of Justice on Thursday. That evening, it emerged that the FBI, which is the department's chief investigative arm, had been illegally overstepping its powers to conduct surveillance on the American people without court supervision, a revelation that sent Democrats calling for hearings and had even a number of Republicans in Congress up in arms. All of the sudden, there were more real questions about whether Gonzales will be able to maintain his position.

Certainly, George W. Bush has proved to be a fairly loyal president, shying away from firing those close to him -- even when they perform remarkably badly or unethically in their positions. For instance George Tenet, President Bush's CIA Director, was awarded the much-coveted Presidential Medal of Freedom despite overseeing some of the greatest intelligence failures in American history. To take one more example that has been in the news of late, despite a pledge to fire anyone involved in the leaking of the identity of CIA operative Valerie Plame Wilson, President Bush has kept his close advisor Karl Rove on staff, even as he admitted to releasing information about her. As such, there is real reason to believe that the President will not soon fire Alberto Gonzales. At least not unless his hand is forced.

In the history of the United States, the House of Representatives has only availed itself of the power to impeach federal officials seventeen times, and in only one instance has it impeached a cabinet secretary (Ulysses S. Grant's Secretary of War William Belknap). Given the relevations of the last week, as well as further questions about the Attorney General's regard for the Constitution (but two months ago he said in testimony before the Senate, "There is no express grant of habeas in the Constitution", a statement the absurdity of which is plain to anyone who has ever read the document or, frankly, taken a sixth grade civics class), I believe that the House Judiciary Committee should begin to hold hearings on and consider the possibility of impeaching Alberto Gonzales. While there might not be sufficient votes in the Senate at this point to convict Gonzales of such charges (and I'd assume the Republicans would be able to scrounge up enough votes to keep Gonzales in his position), such a move would both begin to ensure that there is some accountability for the actions of this administration -- accountability that has been sorely lacking due to President Bush's reticence to fire his incompetent personnel -- and it would put Republicans on the record as defending someone whose actions have undermined the Constitution. And perhaps if the House does move to impeach Gonzales he will follow in the footsteps of Belknap, who resigned before the Senate had voted on whether or not to remove him from office.


Here's a DU thread I just found which discusses the article:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x384453
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 12:20 PM
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23. k&r. . . .
He will go right back into private practice, as B*sh's personal attorney, where he belongs. (I mean, besides jail)
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 03:05 PM
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29. I would prefer the latter as well...
but either way he's excised from power and his toxic political career would be all but over.

Thanks for the K&R!
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 01:12 PM
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27. Alberto so has to go he shows the greatest disdain for the constitution.
I think this idea really works and won't leave any thug hanging around.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 01:48 PM
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28. The window of opportunity this provides won't remain open for long...
which is one reason I'm happy to see other events snowballing into this scandal and gaining traction in the beltway and the media.

It remains to be seen in the weeks ahead if the damage control being applied by the DOJ and the WH will have the effect of suppressing this or if sitting Dems will continue to press this issue to its ultimate conclusion.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 03:17 PM
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30. LINKED. Mar. 11 Daily Impeachment News == Please PARTICIPATE
This thread is linked.

A variety of articles and DU links this morning on impeaching the AG at:

Mar. 11 Daily Impeachment News: post high crimes and misdemeanor news
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x388192

POST links to DU discussions, web articles, start the thread in the morning with a link
to the previous thread and an article, kick only if buried, etc.

I'm not able to continue this daily activity beginning in a few days.
VOTE for this thread by participating. This thread is an idea being tested.

If the DU Community wants to have a daily thread like this, it will be obvious by your PARTICIPATION.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 03:27 PM
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31. Done!
Thanks for the link and I was happy to be recommendation #6 for your thread.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 04:04 PM
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32. For Gonzales to be even modestly conciliatory shows that he is on
the run. Remember how audacious and uncooperative he usually is, even saying that he does not have time to answer the Congress? Go get him, guys and dolls!
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 04:23 PM
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34. Bingo. The capitulation on this issue speaks volumes...
they know they are in trouble over this. With several other scandals and investigations seemingly coming together with this, there's a real opportunity here to contain the WH and shift the balance of power in DC.
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 04:21 PM
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33. They never dreamed in a million years they
would lose congress. Now it's like trying to unfire a gun with the dead body at your feet.

Boy I can't wait until this Friday !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 04:44 PM
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35. "Now it's like trying to unfire a gun with the dead body at your feet."
So true. They have been operating without regard to the post election realities on the ground in Washington, relying on the power of the Bush political machine to keep Democrats at bay. It appears this is not working nearly as well as the GOP planned.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 05:09 PM
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36. More from WaPo about the DOJ scandal...
Gonzales Tries to Mollify GOP Critics on Firings, FBI Missteps

By Paul Kane and Michael Abramowitz
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, March 10, 2007; Page A05

Under fire from lawmakers on Capitol Hill, Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales scrambled to shore up support late this week, reassuring key Senate Republicans that he would address concerns about the firings of eight U.S. attorneys and the FBI's admission that it violated procedures in the use of its anti-terrorism authority.

Lawmakers and their aides said the attorney general called at least four members of the Senate Republican leadership in advance of a Washington Post report on the botched handling of "national security letters," used to obtain e-mails, telephone and financial records of private citizens between 2003 and 2005.

...

The furor over national security letters came as Gonzales was also trying to tamp down Republican discontent with the way he handled the dismissals of the federal prosecutors. Until late this week, the controversy had been largely fueled by Democrats. But after a Justice aide testified in congressional hearings and Gonzales wrote an op-ed column in USA Today saying he had lost "confidence" in the fired prosecutors, several Republicans cried foul.

Sen. John Ensign (Nev.) has emerged as perhaps Gonzales's toughest GOP critic in Congress. He remains furious that his state's U.S. attorney, Daniel Bogden, was dismissed for no apparent reason other than a desire, expressed in congressional testimony by a Justice aide, for "new blood."


Link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/09/AR2007030902029.html
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 06:20 PM
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37. K&R
A good strategy; it looks like this idea is gaining momentum, too.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 09:44 PM
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43. It's both surprising and gratifying how quickly this is picking up steam, yes...
another indicator just how important our midterm wins have been.

We still have a long way to go, but it's amazing how far we've come.
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 01:44 PM
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60. All we need is a WSJ editorial
And the way the wind is blowing, I wouldn't be surprised to see one in the next week or so...
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 06:55 PM
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63. Here's today's WSJ OpinionJournal article...
Not what you wished for, but hardly a defense either:

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110009775

Here for instance the FBI & Gonzales are taken to task...

Nonetheless, the management lapses have done significant harm by allowing critics to claim that all such subpoenas should be barred. FBI Director Robert Mueller has acknowledged the foul-ups and says he's responsible, but it's astonishing that he didn't undertake his own audit much earlier. Those of us who have supported expanded government power to prevent another terror attack have done so with the expectation that the FBI and Justice will have processes in place that limit potential abuses. Mr. Mueller and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales both claimed that they did.


However most of it is filled with the following drivel..

The worst outcome would be if Congress limited the administrative subpoena power in order to punish the FBI. By all accounts, these "national security letters" have proven to be useful in tracking potential terror threats. In particular, the Bush Administration shouldn't now give in to any such demands merely to appease Congress or save the jobs of Messrs. Mueller or Gonzales.

We raise that possibility because this is what seems to have happened after Justice's other recent fiasco over the firing of eight U.S. attorneys last December. Last week, under pressure from Congress, Mr. Gonzales said he and Mr. Bush wouldn't object if Congress wanted to strip him of his ability to replace U.S. attorneys without Senate confirmation and give that power to a district court judge. While a similar process prevailed before the Patriot Act, we think the ability to hire and fire attorneys is a core executive power that should not be abandoned to unelected judges.


The overall tone toward the DOJ was quite hostile however.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 06:54 PM
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38. Another WaPo piece: "Schumer Calls on Gonzales to Step Down"
Schumer Calls on Gonzales to Step Down

By HOPE YEN
The Associated Press
Sunday, March 11, 2007; 7:38 PM

WASHINGTON -- The Senate's No. 3 Democrat said Sunday that Attorney General Alberto Gonzales should resign because he is putting politics above the law. Sen. Charles Schumer cited the FBI's illegal snooping into people's private lives and the Justice Department's firing of federal prosecutors.

...

He branded Gonzales, a former White House counsel, as one of the most political attorneys general in recent history.

...

On Friday, Gonzales and FBI director Robert Mueller acknowledged the FBI had broken the law to secretly pry out personal information about people in the U.S. as part of its pursuit of suspected terrorists and spies.

...

Lawmakers from both parties called the FBI abuses unacceptable. They noted it was Congress that demanded the inspector general review the program even as Justice Department officials were providing assurances the government's surveillance programs were being run responsibly."
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 10:23 PM
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44. This minimizes the fear I had over his replacement.
The usual ratchet-down might not happen this time given the change in political tide.

It looks like we're on the right track.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 10:32 PM
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45. Agreed, any replacement would be much less noxious given the current circumstances
I do wonder who would be on the short list for a replacement AG, should Gonzales be forced out or step down.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 11:23 PM
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50. How about Lieberman?
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 11:30 PM
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51. It would take him out of the senate...
and that's a good thing.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 12:13 AM
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52. A very good thing !!
(Martha, is that you??)
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 10:36 PM
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47. You may be right
But many have been proven wrong in predicting any signs of caution from this administration.

Let's hope that sheer idiocy doesn't rule for this decision.

If it comes at all.
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 10:34 PM
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46. Kick & Nominated
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 01:40 PM
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59. The RW wants him purged as well:
Meltdown at Justice

There is a lameness emanating from the Department of Justice that is evident in three must-read pieces today. First is Michael Barone's column contrasting the prosecutions of Sandy Berger and Scooter Libby. Second is Josh Gerstein's New York Sun article on the runaround the Department of Justice has given Rep. Tom Davis (R-VA) on its stalled leak investigations. The Sun article includes a link to Rep. Davis's letter to Alberto Gonzales. Third is the Wall Street Journal's editorial "Meltdown at Justice," on the FBI's failure to provide adequate supervision of the issuance of national security letters. The "meltdown at Justice" is represented in all three of these pieces today.

http://powerlineblog.com/archives/017010.php (go to article for interesting click thru's)

So, they want Sandy Berger prosecuted as Libby was. They want "national-security" leaks investigated. They want more investigations of Dems. They think Gonzales is "lame."
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 11:22 AM
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64. Kick
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 12:52 AM
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65. Impeachment in the air...


I Love the Smell of Impeachment in the Morning
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 12:11 PM
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66. Especially since Gonzales is resisting resignation...
all the better, AFAIC. I'd prefer a Democratic lead on this issue, and for it to happen on our terms.
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